Could It Really Be Made?

[Junkyard]

A Wonder Woman movie- could it really happen?
Without them botching it like nothing else?

I mean, you have a gorgeous, graceful, intelligent, and overall wonderful woman in a bathing suit.
An island of immortal Amazons.
Illogical powers. (She can lift a mountain, but bullets can hurt her?)
Confusing and weird backstory.
An array of over- the top villains, mixed with some incredibly boring ones. (Cheeta, Silver Swan, Dr. Psycho, Circe, various Businessmen.)

I mean, if they can twist one of DC's most marketable-as-is charicters (Catwoman) into flaming crap, what would they do with Wonder Woman?

[kidcomix]

I'm remaining optimistic that WW will eventually be made. Look at Catwoman which was in development hell forever. Okay that was a poor example. Anyway, I see our Greek heroine's as more of an epic kind of Lord of the Rings. Her origin should be told and how she adapts to the modern world amid the war and chaos would be a great plotline. Now only if they have the right script writer and actors doing their part. Look what it did for the X-Men films which was just as complicated as WW.

[Junkyard]

Here's one of the big things-
Wondy's costume. In X-Men, they changed the costumes considerably, but it didn't really effect their charicters.

But would people be upset if WW had a mojor costume change?

[Zac]

Wonder Woman NEEDS a costume change. She would look ridiculous in a live action film if she were wearing what she does in the comics, methinks.

I have been seeing some really nice redesigns of her costume around lately, both here in the DCG and in magazines. Most of them are more Greek-warrior inspired and I think they really look good. Thats what I feel WW needs in a movie.

[Junkyard]

Of course, if they decide to Greek it up a lot, she'll look too much like Xena, I think.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
<B>Wonder Woman NEEDS a costume change. She would look ridiculous in a live action film if she were wearing what she does in the comics, methinks.

I have been seeing some really nice redesigns of her costume around lately, both here in the DCG and in magazines. Most of them are more Greek-warrior inspired and I think they really look good. Thats what I feel WW needs in a movie.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldn't the same have been said of Spider-Man or Superman? Just imagine: a proper live action movie of WW at long last without the classic costume we've all known. We could, otherwise, say that Xena was in fact Wonder Woman - she just wore a different, updated costume, and went by a new name.

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[Zac]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> Couldn't the same have been said of Spider-Man or Superman? Just imagine: a proper live action movie of WW at long last without the classic costume we've all known. We could, otherwise, say that Xena was in fact Wonder Woman - she just wore a different, updated costume, and went by a new name.
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You have to take into consideration though that Spider-Man and Superman's costumes made sense. Superman would have no reason to not parade around in his costume, and Spidey, well, he could undergo a costume change. But really, the current-WW-costume-to-more-greek-inspired idea I proposed wouldn't be as 'Xena' as everyone is thinking. I think her costume could be Greeked up a bit, but still maintain the original flavor (with the colors and stuff).

[thewwfanpage]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
You have to take into consideration though that Spider-Man and Superman's costumes made sense. Superman would have no reason to not parade around in his costume, and Spidey, well, he could undergo a costume change. But really, the current-WW-costume-to-more-greek-inspired idea I proposed wouldn't be as 'Xena' as everyone is thinking. I think her costume could be Greeked up a bit, but still maintain the original flavor (with the colors and stuff).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why would she need a costume change? All that is needed is an actress good enough to make the "classic" costume believable as Lynda did.

Some of the "warrior-like" costumes I have seen are great, but when I see them... I don't think of Wonder Woman. I think of a snarling Lucy Lawless or the manly renditions of WW in recent years.

Yes, WW is an Amazon... a warrior race. But the concept is not really consistent with their "sisterhood" and way they live on Themiscyra or Paradise Island. Nor is it consistent with her role as an ambassador of PEACE. Yes, she kicks butt when she has to, but that isn't what the character is all about. And her costume should reflect that, IMO.

[MilleniumBum]

in addition, the costume is a tribute to the colors Diana Trevor wore when she crash landed in Themyscira. changing the costume would wipe out that part of the Amazon origin IMO.

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[brokenstatue2001]

I don't think they are going to change her costume for the movie. Her costume is very iconic and part of American pop culture, just like Spidey, Superman, or Batman. That's what went wrong with the original Punisher movie, NO SKULL! The trick with designing costumes is you gotta know what to change and how, like with X-Men or Catwoman. They have had costume changes, and some would look ridiculous on screen (Cyclops' classic line "Would you prefer yellow spandex?"). I think, if they did the WW movie, they should stay true to the hundreds of thousands of WW fans and give her a costume that's true to the character and still looks good on screen.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brokenstatue2001:
The trick with designing costumes is you gotta know what to change and how, like with X-Men or Catwoman. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How is Catwoman a good example of redesigning a costume for film?

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[MarcoPolo]

I'm gonna have to say that I would also be very put-off if they changed her costume to a Xena type look. As mentioned before, it worked for Supes,Spidey and Bats. Why mess with a proven formula, people dig the spandex. She is a "SUPERHERO" folks so there is no need to justify the costume. Everybody knows what they are in for when they buy a ticket to a movie entitled "WonderWoman". So stop worrying about making it seem believable.

[D.K.HOOD]

I have a hard time believing that they could get a serious "A-list" actress to wear the bikini-bottom version of WW's costume. Maybe if they went to the original skirt version then someone of Jennifer Connnelly's caliber would feel more comfortable about the role. Personally, I'd like to see the Elektra-esque version she had in Kingdom Come.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I have a hard time believing that they could get a serious "A-list" actress to wear the bikini-bottom version of WW's costume. Maybe if they went to the original skirt version then someone of Jennifer Connnelly's caliber would feel more comfortable about the role. Personally, I'd like to see the Elektra-esque version she had in Kingdom Come. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd like to see that too. I've always like that costume. But then, if Jennifer Garner can't be persuaded to wear that skimpy thong on the basis it's too impractical, what are the chances of having a Wonder Woman costume like that?

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[norrinraad]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
Wonder Woman NEEDS a costume change. She would look ridiculous in a live action film if she were wearing what she does in the comics, methinks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree. And there's no reason why a costume design should be seen as a betrayal to Wonder Woman's fans. Diana wears the costume she does because it is an official Amazon Ambassador outfit; however, it's the colours that pay tribute to her home, not so much the design itself. As D.K. pointed out, Diana wore a variation on the costume in her early days and it still paid tribute to her Amazon heritage because the colours were accurate. There's no reason the original skirt and a variation on the blouse couldn't be used as long as the colours don't change. It wouldn't be blasphemous at all. If anything it would be a tribute to the way she was originally envisioned.

Seeing such necessities as her bracelets, lassoo and invisible plane incorporated into the film means more to me than a simple, practical costume redesign.

[brokenstatue2001]

Well, I don't see how an invisible plane would be necessary. Last time I checked, she flies like Superman.

Someone might check on that. I normally can't find any issues of WW around, so I'm basing it on the cartoon.

And as far as her costume is concerned, I see nothing wrong with it. In fact, Some guys get turned on by it. You know how many erotic costume shops I've seen with a WW costume in it? Well, quite a few.

[MarcoPolo]

Honestly, this is the LAST comic book character film that I care to be made. I am not a huge fan of W.W, nor do I think that it will translate well to film. Invisible planes in which you can see the pilot?? A main character who is essentialy a charlie's angel in a very american'ish bikini? Bullet proof bracelets, and a an electric lasso? There are so many better heroes out there to discuss, so why all the fan feed? I come to this web site every day, hoping for some news, gossip or views on such films as Iron Man, Iron Fist or Ghost Rider. And usually all I find is the majority of you guys talking about W.W. UHHHGGGG!!! I guess it all has to do with T&A right? Darn you all for making me come to a W.W thread to plead with you to go elsewhere!!!

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Honestly, this is the LAST comic book character film that I care to be made. I am not a huge fan of W.W, nor do I think that it will translate well to film. Invisible planes in which you can see the pilot?? A main character who is essentialy a charlie's angel in a very american'ish bikini? Bullet proof bracelets, and a an electric lasso? There are so many better heroes out there to discuss, so why all the fan feed? I come to this web site every day, hoping for some news, gossip or views on such films as Iron Man, Iron Fist or Ghost Rider. And usually all I find is the majority of you guys talking about W.W. UHHHGGGG!!! I guess it all has to do with T&A right? Darn you all for making me come to a W.W thread to plead with you to go elsewhere!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, I moderate the Iron Man forum and I'm a huge fan. But not many people visit that forum unfortunately, and you can't really force someone to do it either. I guess WW has just gathered more momentum and so people will keep posting on a thread where they see people posting. There have been times though, when the WW has been rather quiet and barely any posts. As for news on Iron Man, well there hasn't been very much lately.

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[brokenstatue2001]

Well, I'd like to see a forum for Ghost Rider, too. I think there has to be a certain number of people who want to talk about it for there to be a forum. As for Iron Man, there's hardly anyone there. There has probably been more posts about the new Namor movie in there the past week than there has been for shellhead the past month. Maybe more people will talk about it when it comes closer to production.

[D.K.HOOD]

Sorry MarcoPolo, but I'd much rather see a live action Wonder Woman that is done well over an Iron Man movie. Maybe its because WW is an icon from my childhood and Iron Man isn't, or maybe its because I'm a total hornball. That doesn't mean that I don't want to see an Iron Man film. I just can't get that excited about speculation for it, even though I enjoyed reading Iron Man more than Wonder Woman.

If you think Wonder Woman is to campy, I think you should check out Wonder Woman: The Hiketia and Wonder Woman: Spirit of Truth. Honestly, they made me see Wonder Woman differently than I did in the past. Much more like a character that could be real and less like the Superfriends or the 70's tv show.

[rayray2021]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
<B>. Invisible planes in which you can see the pilot??

A main character who is essentialy a charlie's angel in a very american'ish bikini?

Bullet proof bracelets,

electric lasso?

I guess it all has to do with T&A right? Darn you all for making me come to a W.W thread to plead with you to go elsewhere!!!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is no longer any need for an invisible plane. She flies.

She is not a Charlie's Angel, she's a formitable powerhouse who has "superman" level strength and an Ambassadorial mission.

Her in-penetrable bracelets are a gift from the Greek Gods, whom she worships.

Her Lasso is not electric. It's gold.

The reason I am a fan has nothing to do with T&A. I enjoy a woman who kicks all kinds of @$$, looks good doing it, has morals, has an important mission, and she has an extremely rich back story. I could care less about Ironman and ironfist and ironlung or whatever. Marvel is just about testosterone driven violence with no statement to be found. I prefer intellagent story telling.
Plus, I think it's funny that it bothers you so... She's an icon and has a HUGE fan base. What's wrong with that???

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[This message has been edited by rayray2021 (edited 06-10-2004).]

[MarcoPolo]

Are you trying to make me cry RayRay? Not very nice of ya'. I don't really have anything against anyone, I just am coming here to try and gather some folk to chat with..I am lonely over in the Iron Man forum all by myself.. Anyways don't get me wrong I would gladly go stare at W.W's boobs for 2hrs if they made a movie. sorry if I offended.

[thewwfanpage]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rayray2021:
<B> There is no longer any need for an invisible plane. She flies.

She is not a Charlie's Angel, she's a formitable powerhouse who has "superman" level strength and an Ambassadorial mission.

Her in-penetrable bracelets are a gift from the Greek Gods, whom she worships.

Her Lasso is not electric. It's gold.

The reason I am a fan has nothing to do with T&A. I enjoy a woman who kicks all kinds of @$$, looks good doing it, has morals, has an important mission, and she has an extremely rich back story. I could care less about Ironman and ironfist and ironlung or whatever. Marvel is just about testosterone driven violence with no statement to be found. I prefer intellagent story telling.
Plus, I think it's funny that it bothers you so... She's an icon and has a HUGE fan base. What's wrong with that???

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well written! I have never understood the whole stereotypical rationing people have to explain why someone would be interested in such a character. But your points are excellent ones... the backstory is a great one even if it has been revised too many times. Her powers are cool, her mission is one of honor and dignity. And I too enjoy a woman who can more than handle her own! Maybe it is BECAUSE this character needs to be handled with more intelligence and class that WB has been so slow about getting it made. Anybody can put out a mindless, gory, Matrix ripoff movie. BUT can they handle Wonder Woman?

[kidcomix]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Honestly, this is the LAST comic book character film that I care to be made. I am not a huge fan of W.W, nor do I think that it will translate well to film. Invisible planes in which you can see the pilot?? A main character who is essentialy a charlie's angel in a very american'ish bikini? Bullet proof bracelets, and a an electric lasso? There are so many better heroes out there to discuss, so why all the fan feed? I come to this web site every day, hoping for some news, gossip or views on such films as Iron Man, Iron Fist or Ghost Rider. And usually all I find is the majority of you guys talking about W.W. UHHHGGGG!!! I guess it all has to do with T&A right? Darn you all for making me come to a W.W thread to plead with you to go elsewhere!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can respect the fact that you're not a fan of WW but don't denigrade other fans who show support for this thread. There is a fan base out there that wants to see WW come to the big screen and we would appreciate it that it was done correctly. You would feel the same if they cast some yahoo to fill in Iron Man's shoes or cast a female in lead for Ghost Rider. So post your opinions on their threads and quit demoralizing ours.

[kidcomix]

Wonder Woman is a complex superhero. She's not the boy scout that Superman is or the dark brooding vigilante like Batman She is a woman naive to a patriarchal society. The recent continuity shows this by making her an ambassador for peace. This is ironic when you think about what is currently happening in the world. So why the interest in her? First she is an icon. Second, she personifies many themes of love, compassion, justice, war, peace, etc. Third, her stories make use of ancient Greek history. Lastly, she is the ultimate symbol of feminine empowerment. In short, she's a positive female deity. To say that Wonder Woman could be defined in a simplistic script is ridiculous. She deserves a much better tribute.

[MilleniumBum]

well said, kidcomix! though WW is not as popular as Iron Man, that doesn't mean that she doesn't have substance. and that does not give anyone the right to demean WW fans. To say that she's all T&A shows the lack of knowledge for the character. with all due respect, MarcoPolo, if you like Iron Man so much, please initiate the threads and conversations in the Iron Man forum. we're cool with that. you could also encourage other fans to take part in your discussions. but please don't talk about WW like that in this forum. thank you.

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[This message has been edited by MilleniumBum (edited 06-11-2004).]

[MarcoPolo]

MilleniumBum, kidcomix, I already tried to appologize for any offensive comments I might have made... Geeze!! Your responses are a little bit of an overkill no? Man', you guys really go for blood. Lighten up.

[MarcoPolo]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MilleniumBum:
<B> "don't talk about WW like that in this forum. thank you."

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Are you implying, that should I mention that I dislike any aspect of Wonder Woman(ie:the invisible plane), I risk being ejected from this forum? I didn't realize that was how it works here..

[MarcoPolo]

..In effect: Views, sentiments or input concerning Wonder Woman, are not permitted here unless they are positive or reflect your own? I just want to make this clear.

[Zac]

The only reason you should say anything ina negative light about WW in this thread is if it somehow shows why you believe a movie would/wouldn't work. Anything else is off-topic and everyone knows that I don't like people being off-topic

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
everyone knows that I don't like people being off-topic<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And just what does that have to do with this topic, eh Zac? http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif

[MilleniumBum]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Are you implying, that should I mention that I dislike any aspect of Wonder Woman(ie:the invisible plane), I risk being ejected from this forum? I didn't realize that was how it works here..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i am not implying anything. i know this is off topic but i have to make it known. this isn't about ejection from the forum or censorship of opinions. this is about respect for the character and the voicing of negative opinions in an inoffensive manner. i understand that you have apologized for your previous message. i'm cool with that, really. and i apologize if my comments were misinterpreted. we're not a violent bunch in this forum. we just love WW to bits. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif

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[kidcomix]

I accept your apology Marco Polo. I'll admit I was hasty and misread your comments. Your comments were essentially a bit harsh but I can see your perspective in attempting to form another opinion for the Iron Man thread. I don't believe censorship is necessary. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but please be tactful in your comments and realize you are going to anger some WW fans with what you say.

[kidcomix]

Okay back to the WW forum? Did anyone here about the television remake that was planned from the producers of Lois and Clark a while back? Any news, gossip, info? Please share.

[Junkyard]

Here's a big one:

In a WW movie, who would be the villain or villains?

I'd vote Silver Swan, if anybody. Her origin and charicter can be adjusted to fit whatever plot, I think.

[kidcomix]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Junkyard:
<B>Here's a big one:

In a WW movie, who would be the villain or villains?

I'd vote Silver Swan, if anybody. Her origin and charicter can be adjusted to fit whatever plot, I think.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good choice but I think in the first film Ares should play the main villian. Maybe Silver Swan could be his henchwoman.

[batmanfan123]

just to say something that was talked to a whole back in this topic strand is that of the x-men costume being changed it look good for the movie but wolverine need a fucking mask in my opion

[MilleniumBum]

i'd recommend the plot from george perez's first 9 issues of his run on WW. it was an excellent mix of an origin story, drama, magic, and mythology.

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