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I'm still for Jennifer Connelly! Wooo!
Captain Sigma
06-08-2004, 10:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
<B>Go here to see others' ideas: http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/Forum21/HTML/000010.html
I'm still for Jennifer Connelly! Wooo!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If she gains some weight, then yes, she would make an EXCELLENT Wonder Woman!
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MilleniumBum
06-09-2004, 06:09 AM
i think jennifer connelly's is a good choice. i love her eyes and she can act! i'm not too sure about her age though.
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thewwfanpage
06-09-2004, 03:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MilleniumBum:
<B>i think jennifer connelly's is a good choice. i love her eyes and she can act! i'm not too sure about her age though.
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I think the whole age thing shouldn't be an issue anyway... if the actress is beautiful, young enough "looking" and most of all talented as Jennifer Connelly is, then I don't think her age should factor. Man, if she got back to the size she was in "The Rocketeer" and got in the gym and buffed up some... she'd be awesome! She's pretty awesome already.
Captain Sigma
06-10-2004, 03:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by thewwfanpage:
<B> I think the whole age thing shouldn't be an issue anyway... if the actress is beautiful, young enough "looking" and most of all talented as Jennifer Connelly is, then I don't think her age should factor. Man, if she got back to the size she was in "The Rocketeer" and got in the gym and buffed up some... she'd be awesome! She's pretty awesome already.
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Here here! I agree! Connelly was quite the hottie! I don't think age would be a serious issue in the first movie (if Warner Brothers puts a movie out before my son starts driving), but I wonder (no pun intended) how she would hold up for a few sequels?
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Captain Sigma
thewwfanpage
06-10-2004, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain Sigma:
<B> Here here! I agree! Connelly was quite the hottie! I don't think age would be a serious issue in the first movie (if Warner Brothers puts a movie out before my son starts driving), but I wonder (no pun intended) how she would hold up for a few sequels?
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Maybe that was WB was consdering when they decided they wanted someone in the 20-25 age category. If they were to put out sequels as slow as they are getting to the first one, Jen might be walking with a cane by the time the trilogy was complete!
kidcomix
06-10-2004, 05:33 PM
First it was Jennifer Connelly. But I'm saying Mia Krishner all the way.
D.K.HOOD
06-12-2004, 10:52 AM
Mia looks kind of babyfaced from the pictures I've seen. How old is she?
Oh, and I want the actress that plays WW to have eyes like the Valtrex Girl (http://www.newyorkish.com/newyorkish/2004/04/a_few_questions.html).
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Captain Sigma
06-12-2004, 09:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
First it was Jennifer Connelly. But I'm saying Mia Krishner all the way.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Krishner doesn't seem to have the (AHEM) physical attributes Princess Diana should have, and I don't think there is a weight-training class or Wonder-bra in the world that could give it to her.
What about Shannon Elizabeth or Susan Ward? Although my choices are still between Tiffany Taylor, Krista Allen or Charisma Carpenter respectively.
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Captain Sigma
kidcomix
06-13-2004, 01:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain Sigma:
<B> Krishner doesn't seem to have the (AHEM) physical attributes Princess Diana should have, and I don't think there is a weight-training class or Wonder-bra in the world that could give it to her.
What about Shannon Elizabeth or Susan Ward? Although my choices are still between Tiffany Taylor, Krista Allen or Charisma Carpenter respectively.
Shannon Elizabeth yes. Whose Tiffany Taylor? Krista Allen, definitely. Susan Ward, I think is too short for the role and so is Charisma. I'm still for Mia though!
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brokenstatue2001
06-13-2004, 11:57 PM
I've always been for Eva Mendes. She's tough, beautiful, and as for her skin tone... have you've ever been to Greece? More women over there look more hispanic than white.
Captain Sigma
06-16-2004, 03:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
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I meant to say I'm still for Tiffany. Oh, I think that was you who said you were still for Mia.
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Captain Sigma
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Captain Sigma
06-16-2004, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
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Tiffany Taylor is a Playboy Playmate. I don't know if she's much of an actress, but she reminds me of a young Lynda Carter. She has a website, but it has explicit pictures. If you type her name (no spaces) and put dot com (.com) at the end of it you'll find her. I also did some sketches of her as Wonder Woman. You can find them here http://comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=14995&f_ssn=&f_fooble=2.. Isn't Eva Mendes in that new Snoop Dogg movie?
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brokenstatue2001
06-16-2004, 11:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain Sigma:
<B> Isn't Eva Mendes in that new Snoop Dogg movie?
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Ummm....Soul Plane? I don't think so. She was in 2 Fast 2 Furious, Once Upon A Time In Mexico, Stuck On You, Out Of Time, Training Day.... I haven't heard about her with Snoop in his movie, though.
kidcomix
06-17-2004, 12:43 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Sigma:
[B] Tiffany Taylor is a Playboy Playmate. I don't know if she's much of an actress, but she reminds me of a young Lynda Carter.
In response to Tiffany Taylor.......
AAAAAAAAAAAAWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAA
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But hey I was for Penthouse Pet Julie Strain in the beginning.
But seriously what are the chances of the producers casting any of these models in the role?
Also, does anyone know any news about actress Jordan Bayne? Last year, she got some positive feedback from fans wanting to don the satin tights.
Captain Sigma
06-17-2004, 09:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
<B>[QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Sigma:
[B] Tiffany Taylor is a Playboy Playmate. I don't know if she's much of an actress, but she reminds me of a young Lynda Carter.
In response to Tiffany Taylor.......
AAAAAAAAAAAAWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAA
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But hey I was for Penthouse Pet Julie Strain in the beginning.
But seriously what are the chances of the producers casting any of these models in the role?
Also, does anyone know any news about actress Jordan Bayne? Last year, she got some positive feedback from fans wanting to don the satin tights.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Have you seen Joel Silver's 'Next Action Star' on NBC? If you haven't watch it and/or go to the website to check out Vivana at http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Next_Action_Star/contestants/semi-finalists.shtml. She's a little annoying, but she has a kinda of Princess Diana look about her.
Oh, you were talking about Susan Ward and Charisma Carpenter being too short. Michael Keaton wasn't 6 foot 2. And the group of contenders for this new Superman movie don't seem to be that tall either. I think the camera can make us think Susan Ward is 5 foot 11 inches tall.
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Captain Sigma
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MilleniumBum
06-18-2004, 04:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
Also, does anyone know any news about actress Jordan Bayne? Last year, she got some positive feedback from fans wanting to don the satin tights.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
last i heard of her, she emailed me regarding the WW manips i made with her as the model. no word since. i like her features though. more like alex ross' WW.
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rayray2021
06-22-2004, 04:09 PM
Have you guys heard that Jenthony Lopez wants to be Wonder Woman? I think she's delusional, y'know?
Anyway, actress/model Kim Smith has also expressed an interest in the role in her recent Maxim interview.
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kidcomix
06-22-2004, 07:24 PM
J-Ho as Wonder Woman!!! Say it isn't so.
kidcomix
06-22-2004, 09:00 PM
So much for my choice for Mia Kirschner for WW. Looks like rumors abound that she is being offered to play Lois Lane for the Superman movie whenever it will be made.
thewwfanpage
06-22-2004, 09:54 PM
Ummm... Kim Smith is HOT! She would look great as Wondy! I didn't know who she was, but just checked out some pics. Has anyone seen her act?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rayray2021:
<B>Have you guys heard that Jenthony Lopez wants to be Wonder Woman? I think she's delusional, y'know?
Anyway, actress/model Kim Smith has also expressed an interest in the role in her recent Maxim interview.
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android
06-27-2004, 04:48 AM
What about...
Lonneke Engel http://www.babefocus.com/viewgallery.php?celebid=545&page=1
or
Angela Lindvall http://www.babefocus.com/viewgallery.php?celebid=75&page=1
kidcomix
06-27-2004, 03:17 PM
Well whoever they cast for WW, the actress has alot riding on this film. So she better not screw it up or her acting career would be short lived. Elizabeth Berkely anyone?
kidcomix
07-06-2004, 11:11 PM
Read my humorous take on JLO playing Wonder Woman on this discussion board.
brokenstatue2001
07-07-2004, 10:02 PM
Hey, I just posted in my "fantasy casting" topic that I think Peta Wilson would also make a good Wonder Woman. Check it out!
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Now if we are going to think of casting choices for Wonder Woman, might I point out that there IS life beyond Angel and Buffy. Those aren't the only actresses in the world! Soon someone will be saying Alison Hannigan or Amber Benson or maybe even Buffy's mother!!
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MaidenRaine1300
01-15-2005, 12:07 PM
Nadia Bjorlin for Wonder Woman! She looks so much like Lynda Carter!
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14136094/
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kidcomix
01-16-2005, 12:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MaidenRaine1300:
<B>Nadia Bjorlin for Wonder Woman! She looks so much like Lynda Carter!
I agree that she does bear a resemblence to Lynda but she needs more acting experience to buff up her resume. Her soap work gives her very little opportunity to headline and carry out a major motion picture.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14136094/
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FireStormTrooper
01-18-2005, 08:38 AM
What are your (all a y'alls) requirements for an actress to be a viable contender for the role of Wonder Woman?
Here are mine ...
- Her celebrity should NOT overshadow the character ... i.e. stars like Angelina Jolie and J-Lo would be disqualified.
- Her acting career should not include porn, soft or hardcore ... sorry, no Julie Strain and Carmen Electra.
- Her face and body (hair is another matter) should naturally resemble the character's ... so no Cameron Diaz or Elizabeth Ducksu.
- Her age should be young enough to carry a film franchise through three films, but old enough to be Wonder WOMAN ... Catherine Zeta-Jones would be too old for this now, starlets like Lindsay Lohen are far too young.
- Her career should be either relatively new or Oscar-worthy. No in-between pop stars like Shannon Elizabeth (American Pie).
- Her height and build should naturally reflect the character, so that eliminates petite stars like Eva Longeria (the young desperate housewife)
What's your personal criteria for WW?
DarrenJSeeley
01-18-2005, 06:17 PM
I'll stick to my guns on this. My first choice would go to Alexa Devalos (Buffy, Chronicles Of Riddick) but...then my thoughts drifted towards Keria Knightley.
The more I thought about it, Keria seems like a strong choice.
1) Before you mention her age of 19, remember that, with the exception of Bend It Like Beckham, she has played slightly older women in thier early to mid 20's.
2) Her films to date have required her to show some athleticism of some sort. Bend It Like Beckham may have been a comedy, but she still had to kick the soccer ball; she was all for Pirates action (and soon will be again) and she learned how to shoot a bow and arrow for the underrrated King Arthur.
3) While period pieces, Arthur and Pirates were also action movies.
4) She's bankable. She has an accent. Nice eyebrows and eyes. She can also act.
5) Chest? Remember the push up corset from Pirates. Give her one of those Victoria Secret push up or padded bras and you are set. But, y'know, it's really a non-issue anyway.
6) Cast actors around her height (she's not that short though) and there you are.
Would I accept my third choice- Kate Beckinsdale - as Diana? Darn skippy. I can see that. But is she worn out from fighting vampires and werewolves?
Playboy playmates were brung up. I suppose if some joker wanted the island to be populated by Baywatch babes...seriously though, there are a few former Playmates who are trying to shape an acting career, but you'll notice the ones that are have done something other than Playboy and who have modeled something other than the birthday suit. There are then, a limited few.
They also would have to get serious in order to be taken serious.
kidcomix
01-18-2005, 10:43 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DarrenJSeeley:
I'll stick to my guns on this. My first choice would go to Alexa Devalos (Buffy, Chronicles Of Riddick) but...then my thoughts drifted towards [b] Keria Knightley.
I was going to go with Alexa too since she has the look and the athleticism to pull off playing Diana. Every other name mentioned with major star power just didn't seem right. Catherine and the others I'm rooting to play Hippolyta since it takes an Oscar winner to play someone regal as the Queen of the Amazons. Anyway, my second would be Keira since she is athletic. Yes she is small in the bust but with some toning up, a wonderbra (no pun intended), and big breast plate she could pull it off. Look what it did for Tobey Maguire when he bulked up for Spiderman. Give these actresses a Greek accent and a believable script and bam Wonder Woman is born!!!
FireStormTrooper
01-24-2005, 01:59 PM
Whoever plays Diana, in addition to acting skills, should have the physical stature to play a believable Amazon. You wouldn't want a 5'10" actor playing Superman (he would have to be 6'2" or up). Likewise, the actress playing Wonder Woman should stand at least 5'9" barefoot, preferably a little taller than that so she can dwarf some men.
Again, ultimately it's a detail, but details can go a long way to believability.
MaidenRaine1300
01-25-2005, 06:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
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Thanks! Here are some more pictures. This time of her as Wonder Woman.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14333880/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/14502043/
~MaidenRaine1300
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FireStormTrooper
01-26-2005, 01:03 PM
I say pick a talented unknown (like Christopher Reeve was to Superman)to play Diana and then surround her with proven stars. The sole exceptions to the unknown actress would be someone kinda known like Charlize Theron or yes, Keira Knightley, who aren't proven box office draws and whose personalities don't yet overshadow the characters they play.
kidcomix
01-28-2005, 10:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
I say pick a talented unknown (like Christopher Reeve was to Superman)to play Diana and then surround her with proven stars. The sole exceptions to the unknown actress would be someone kinda known like Charlize Theron or yes, Keira Knightley, who aren't proven box office draws and whose personalities don't yet overshadow the characters they play.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well said Firestorm. I definitely would go with an unknown for casting since Bryan Singer is going with a relative unknown for the Superman film. I find that theater actors (Broadway and international) make convincing characters. Look at Hugh Jackman who became Wolverine.
kidcomix
02-02-2005, 12:18 AM
After seeing Hilary Swank get buffed up for Million Dollar Baby, I think she'd be a likely candidate for Diana. Any opinions on this?
FireStormTrooper
02-02-2005, 09:30 AM
Hillary Swank? As in soon-to-be-twice-Best-Actress? THAT Hillary Swank? Wow. She's almost ... too good an actress to play Diana. Hunh, that's a first.
Well, if you click on her bio in the Internet Movie Data base website @ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005476/ says she stands 5'7", which is kind of small for Wonder Woman, and she was born in 1974, making her already 30. So, physically, she's a little too short and too old to play the Amazon. Which is not to say that she is a bad actress (ten bucks says she gets the Best Actress award in a few months).
Sorry, this is a little like saying that Robert DeNiro should have originally played Superman in 1978: a little too short and a little too old, but phenomenal talent regardless.
Although, this makes me think that CHARLIZE THERON (another Best Actress winner) would be good for the role (age is a little younger, but body and face match Diana's). Click on the link to see her entry in the IMDB @ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000234/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000234/) .
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WonderWomanGoddess
02-03-2005, 12:45 PM
One of the endearing things about Hilary Swank is her girl next door quality...Diana is the opposite of that.
Charlize Theron is one of the few big name actresses that is still on my maybe list...I'm anxiously waiting to see how she does in Aeon Flux...
If she can carry a sci fi fantasy film, with an ass kicking character with a strong fan base, no costume to speak of and raven hair...she may be WW material! She has the acting chops, the inherent grace, elegance and timeless beauty, and the body.
On the other hand, being Aeon Flux, if sucessful, may take her right out of the running for WW because of sequel obligations or too much of a strong association with that character to be cast as WW.
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yas3r
02-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Theron in Aeon Flux. I dont know the show, but from the clips and images i saw of it, it seemed a real trippy piece, good call for a movie with a unique style.
Saw the photos, looks like a cheap sci-fi channel production, i wouldnt worry about sequel possibilities tooooo much.
FireStormTrooper
02-04-2005, 10:06 AM
Ah, but that's the great thing about Wonder Woman: she's really the only female film property that can sell itself without the need of a major star. Think BATMAN BEGINS is banking on Christian Bale's starpower? Did his roles in AMERICAN PSYCHO or the recent SHAFT remake earn either of those films blockbuster status? Christian Bale is not a major star. For Batman, he doesn't need to be. Likewise with Superman or Wonder Woman. The actors playing these roles should be secondary to the characters, who are truly larger-than-life.
Would Charlize be good as Diana? Yeah, she has the acting skills, physique and looks to probably do the role justice. Would WW as a franchise fail if they don't pick up the current starlet-of-the-year to draw in crowds? Absolutely not. In fact, an actress who is a major celebrity would probably be a distraction and overpower the movie with her personality. Therefore, an unknown actress is still the best way to go, IMHO (but Charlize still ain't bad if you can get her).
yas3r
02-05-2005, 10:21 AM
I agree completely. Its just...Charlize Theron IS starlet of the year. Monster was good, her performance a rare one-off.
I always hoped she'd be catwoman, oh well, i just dont picture her with the maturity and dignity of Diana.
'Wonder Woman Year 1' could be her project.
Besides its Whedons call and Sarah Michelle Gellar is his top choice (terrible choice for almost any role) and Charisma Carpenter (hand in your actors guild card).
Batman Begins is a new take, its treating the subject respectfully and has a lot of talent behind it.
Whedon will make a film that will be successful and appeal to the Buffy / Charlies Angels crowd - not my type of movie I'm afraid.
norrinraad
02-07-2005, 10:31 PM
It's kind of funny how Hollywood is giving so much credit to Sarah Michelle Gellar in regards to The Grudge. I seriously doubt that film packed theatres the way it did because she was in it. The movie was packaged for a pre-sold audience, the same way The Ring was. Its success can no more be credited to Gellar than The Ring's can to Naomi Watts.
As for Gellar as Wonder Woman, I personally don't like the idea. I have nothing against Gellar one way or another but I think it would be too distracting for audiences. She's too well known as Buffy. It wouldn't matter as much for other roles, but the two characters are so iconic there is bound to be overlap in many people's minds.
FireStormTrooper
02-08-2005, 09:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted on www.moviehole.net (http://www.moviehole.net)
<I>Newcomer Satu Rautaharju, soon to be seen in the film "Communication Breakdown", has been linked to the role of the big-screen "Wonder Woman".
Rautaharj, who provides the voice of Benten in the animated "Urusei Yatsura" series, is said to be in with a chance to take the lead in Joss Whedon's big-screen version - if only because Producer Joel Silver is chasing a fresh face.
Also mooted for the role are Catherine Zeta-Jones, Angelina Jolie, Mini Driver, and Charisma Carpenter, but the above site says the studio will likely go with a newcomer, whether it's the aforesaid actress or not.</I><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'd take this preceding bit with a HUGE grain of salt ... but it's also got my attention. A quick look-up on www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) for Satu shows a face pic and an upper body shot ... she could look like Diana (odd, tho: no height given). She's definitely an unknown. The name alone is intriguing enough. I don't know, we'll see ...
The Xenos
02-08-2005, 02:54 PM
Well there's more on her here: http://www.lostcolonyentertainment.com/projects/biography/saturautaharju/saturautaharjubiography.htm
Of course it's rahtert suspicious that this rumor seems to have started on the website for a production company of an upcoming movie in which she stars.
I am curious as to what her ethnicity is. Her name doesn't qutie sound Greek, but it oculd be. She certainly could pass for Greek even if she isn't. I'm so sick of seeing white and northern European actresses and actors taking up Greek and Mediteranian roles. (C'mon. There is no (#$ing way Brad Pitt or Orlando Bloom looking Greek or Persian at all. And who was that blonde white chick as Helen? Don't even get me started on the Irish guy in a blonde wig as Alexander!)
Anyway, Ms. Rautaharju does look quite gorgeous. Quite a decent choice, yet to be soon how good she could be in this role. It seems she also is known due to being in a "goth/metal/punk band called Incision Complex" formerly "known as Straight Razor Seduction". I love that type of band with female lead vocals. I like stuff liek Evanescene, Lacuna Coil, Snake River Conspiracy, and Jack Off Jill to name a few. So I am quite interested in finding any of their music. The most I've found is a crappy tripod website for the old name of the band, no samples. Though it says they were featured on an ep of Dawson's Creek.
Interesing news bit, whether there's really any truth to it or not.
-Xenos
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Well there's more on her here: http://www.lostcolonyentertainment.com/projects/biography/saturautaharju/s aturautaharjubiography.htm (http://www.lostcolonyentertainment.com/projects/biography/saturautaharju/saturautaharjubiography.htm)
Of course it's rahtert suspicious that this rumor seems to have started on the website for a production company of an upcoming movie in which she stars.
I am curious as to what her ethnicity is. Her name doesn't qutie sound Greek, but it oculd be. She certainly could pass for Greek even if she isn't. I'm so sick of seeing white and northern European actresses and actors taking up Greek and Mediteranian roles. (C'mon. There is no (#$ing way Brad Pitt or Orlando Bloom looking Greek or Persian at all. And who was that blonde white chick as Helen? Don't even get me started on the Irish guy in a blonde wig as Alexander!)
Anyway, Ms. Rautaharju does look quite gorgeous. Quite a decent choice, yet to be soon how good she could be in this role. It seems she also is known due to being in a "goth/metal/punk band called Incision Complex" formerly "known as Straight Razor Seduction". I love that type of band with female lead vocals. I like stuff liek Evanescene, Lacuna Coil, Snake River Conspiracy, and Jack Off Jill to name a few. So I am quite interested in finding any of their music. The most I've found is a crappy tripod website for the old name of the band, no samples. Though it says they were featured on an ep of Dawson's Creek.
Interesing news bit, whether there's really any truth to it or not.
-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Doesn't sound Greek to me - it sounds more Bangladeshi or something similar.
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FireStormTrooper
03-02-2005, 08:43 AM
Now I'm hearing (or seeing, as the case may be) from different sources that Joss Whedon is actively seeking out either Kim Basinger or Jessica Biels for the role of Diana, depending on if they go older or younger.
Gag. Me.
This is such a miscast duo that I'm hoping either this is just a cruel joke by some hacks or that Joss Whedon is beginning an ill-fated crack binge that will render him incapable of casting this movie. Kim Basinger, as in Eminem's mom from 8 MILE? And Jessica Biels is way too much Girl Next Door for an Amazon. Good lord, if Basinger or Biels is cast, WB/DC will have another sweep of the Razzies (the anti-Oscars) to go along with CATWOMAN.
The Xenos
03-02-2005, 05:19 PM
Why do I have a feeling The Post is running with the same internet rumor? I sure hope they are because, yeah, neither of those two casting choices make sense for the Greek goddess.
-Xenos
kidcomix
03-02-2005, 07:01 PM
Since we're on the subject of Razzies, (I have to admit I commend Halle Berry for accepting her award for her rotten tomato role in Catwoman.), let's miscast the whole Wonder Woman movie. Since Hollywood loves implants, let's get Anna Nicole Smith and dye her hair black and feed her some lines that would make Shakespeare turn in his grave. Hippolyta should be played by any Academy Award winning actress who hasn't worked in years. Okay, let's see Jessica Tandy I hear is still embalmed and with CGI and a voice over, this might work. Look for some has been director who we've not heard from in while. I'll say...John Carpenter. No decent script and no plot and there you go a bonifide flop guaranteed for the Razzie!!!
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kidcomix
03-02-2005, 07:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kidcomix:
<B>Since we're on the subject of Razzies, (I have to admit I commend Halle Berry for accepting her award for her rotten tomato role in Catwoman.), let's miscast the whole Wonder Woman movie. Since Hollywood loves implants, let's get Anna Nicole Smith and dye her hair black and feed her some lines that would make Shakespeare turn in his grave. Hippolyta should be played by any Academy Award winning actress who hasn't worked in years. Okay, let's see Jessica Tandy I hear is still embalmed and with CGI and a voice over, this might work. Look for some has been director who we've not heard from in while. I'll say...John Carpenter. No decent script and no plot and there you go a bonifide flop guaranteed for the Razzie!!!
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FireStormTrooper
03-03-2005, 10:36 AM
OK, WONDER WOMAN should be aiming for the heights of SUPERMAN (1978) and SPIDER-MAN (2002), not the depths of CATWOMAN or ELECTRA! She is a positive role model, not just a T & A pin-up fantasy. Which means that WB should be doing their BEST efforts on this project. Do it right, and they'll reap millions in profit. Do it wrong, and they'll lose money (and respect, but nobody cares about that anymore at WB).
That said, I'm not against to either Kim Basinger or Jessica Biels being in the WW movie, just NOT as Diana herself. On second glance, it seems like the Kim-as-Diana idea is simply too ludicrous to be true. She's past 40 and looks it. She might be in the running for amazon Hyppolyta (a role that should first be offered to Lynda Carter) or one of the Greek goddesses (Hera comes to mind) or simply one of the supporting cast (Prof. Julia Kapatellis, maybe?). Kim Basinger is a good actress and I wouldn't mind seeing her play a part in the film franchise ... just NOT as Diana herself.
Jessica Biels-as-Diana is much more dangerous, because the idea isn't nearly as laughable as the Kim idea. Not to WB execs, anyway. They probably saw her in BLADE III and thought she could do the job. I can see Jessica as one of the other amazons like Artemis ... maybe even as the Cheetah (though she doesn't seem imposing or slinky enough as, say, Milla Jovavich would be).
I say go with a talented half-unknown (or take Charlize Theron) for the main role. Basinger and Biels can take supporting roles and everyone's happy.
yas3r
03-03-2005, 02:02 PM
Dont mean to sound contrary, especially on a project I'm not too interested in. But i just saw the texas chainsaw massacre-
-Biel is not a bad choice.
I havent seen Blade 3, but the clips have shown she certainly has the physicality.
TCM, she gives a really strong performance, it had a real power and vulnerability at the same time-very Sigourney Weaver, Alien.
She is also a fantastic specimen-if she gets cast, this film MAY succeed. She's certainly no Gellar or Carpenter.
MilleniumBum
03-07-2005, 05:47 AM
personally, i always thought jessica biel would be better as Mary Marvel. brown hair? why not vanessa kapatelis?
i love buffy but i don't want sarah michelle gellar in the role. sure, she can kick butt but she doesn't have the character's regal bearing.
i agree that kim basinger would function better as a goddess or julia kapatelis. hera would be a good choice for her.
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agent orange
03-15-2005, 12:30 PM
Personally I hope that they cast relative unknown Satu Rautaharju in the lead role. She bears an uncanny resembleance to the current Drew Johnson artwork.
TV fans will remember her from a few "Dawson's Creek" episodes. If you want to cheek Satu out, then try the following links:
http://www.saturautaharju.com/home.html
http://www.maultsbytalent.com/Pages/FemaleModels/SRautaharju.htm
Be sure to look at her pics along side some of the Drew Johnson stuff, to catcht he resemblance.
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Anyte
03-16-2005, 06:57 PM
You know, Wonder Woman has been one of my favorite characters since I was in Under-roos. The fact that I can't think of a single actress off the top of my head who I would want in the role tells me they should go unknown or near unknown. Almost anybody famous is overexposed. I don't want to be sitting in the theatre going "Isn't that the actress who used to sleep with a Backstreet Boy?" At the very least, you need someone who keeps their private life out of the public eye. Because Diana has to have Dignity. And that's something most of today's stars don't know anything about. The role calls for a woman of substance. Someone... Beautiful, talented and possessing the grace, poise and dignity of a princess. The strength, courage, and wiliness of a warrior. This character is a woman who lives by a code of honor. The best casting would be any actress of sufficient talent, with the necessary "exotic" beauty and physical fitness. She doesn't have to be Greek or Mediterrean at all, look at Catherine Zeta Jones--she's Welsh. Hair can be dyed, height can be faked, accents can be learned. Age will be largely dependent on the script. I would agree that an actress over about 35 would be too old, particularly if they expect to start a franchise.
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FireStormTrooper
03-23-2005, 08:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Originallyb posted somewhere on www.comics2film.com (http://www.comics2film.com)
<B>Question: Now, I think we all know where you stand on the casting for Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman (Entertainment News 3/17), but I feel obliged to mention my best friend's belief that the one and only (aside from Lynda Carter, natch) choice is Lucy Lawless. If ever the opportunity presents itself, be sure to pass on to Joss this viable second choice (since you would naturally push for Lauren Graham). — Brian Edwards
Ausiello: I've got good news and bad news for you, Bri. The good news: Such a chance actually did present itself last Thursday, when Joss phoned me during a break from editing Serenity to chat about lassoing Wonder Woman and resurrecting a certain 150-year-old, English vamp on WB (more on that later). The bad news: I never got around to pitching Lawless. I did, however, find out that Whedon is months away from finding his ideal Woman. "Everybody is in agreement that casting is not an issue right now," he says. "It's not a vehicle to be built around a particular star. We want to write the thing, find the right character and then figure out who should play her. There are various famous people whose names have come up, because that always happens, but you know, we're talking about Wonder Woman here. Those are tough booties to fill." That said, it sounds like Whedon knows enough about Lynda Carter's successor to rule out Lawless and (sigh) Graham. "I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says, adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends." That certainly bodes well for rumored front-runner Jessica Biel. (And I repeat: Sigh... )</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Younger than traditional? What's that mean? 21? 18? Younger than that? Is Hillary Duff suddenly in the running? How about Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen? Lindsey Lohan, maybe? Well, I guess my #1 choice Charlize Theron (age 29) is out, while Naomi Watts (31), Jennifer Connelly (34) and Catherine Zeta-Jones (35) are all ancient.
rayray2021
03-24-2005, 06:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
Younger than traditional? What's that mean? 21? 18? Younger than that? Is Hillary Duff suddenly in the running? How about Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen? Lindsey Lohan, maybe? Well, I guess my #1 choice Charlize Theron (age 29) is out, while Naomi Watts (31), Jennifer Connelly (34) and Catherine Zeta-Jones (35) are all ancient. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Umm, dude, I've been posting in this forum for a few years saying that an origin story will have a Diana that is around 19-23. I am so happy that we will probably have an unknown actress in the role. Lynda Carter was unknown and 20 years old when she was Wonder Woman. Cheer up, it won't be bad! You are only thinking in terms of "name" actresses in that age group, but there are plenty of aspiring beauties who could do the role justice!
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As I've said before (when Zeta Jones was younger, since it's taken this long for a WW movie), I don't think whether she looks Greek or Mediterranean enough is the problem. It's that she just looks too much like little Dylan's mum these days!!! And we don't need a maternal-looking Wonder Woman!
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Majik1387
03-25-2005, 09:12 PM
My choice for Diana/Wonder Woman would be between Anne Hathaway or Mia Kirshner if they buffed up just a lttle to be more toned.
FireStormTrooper
03-28-2005, 08:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted on www.msn.com (http://www.msn.com)
<B>Who Is The Next 'Wonder Woman'?
Power up the invisible jet and get those bulletproof bracelets shined: After years of standing in the shadows, the fabled Amazon princess is finally coming to the big screen. Last week Warner Bros. and producer Joel Silver announced that Joss Whedon would write and direct the first "Wonder Woman" movie.
Whedon is best known for creating "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" and its acclaimed spin-off "Angel," but he has a long career in the movie business, having written the screenplays for "Toy Story" (a group effort) and "Alien: Resurrection." Whedon is currently enjoying good buzz with his upcoming sci-fi adventure "Serenity," which is based on his short-lived Fox TV series, "Firefly." But beyond his background with strong female heroines, Whedon has written a number of comic books, including a current run on "Astonishing X-Men." In fact, Whedon had long been rumored to take over "X3." Whether that was something he was seriously considering is unclear, but he's excited about his new project.
As he said in the announcement's press release, "Wonder Woman is the most iconic female heroine of our time, but in a way, no one has met her yet. When Joel and I began discussing the character, I realized there is a woman behind the legend who is very fascinating, very uncompromising and, in her own way, almost vulnerable. She's someone who doesn't belong in this world, and since everyone I know feels that way about themselves, the character clicked for me."
What does this mean? Well, don't expect a campy homage to the beloved '70s TV show that starred Lynda Carter. Look for a more serious take. I personally hope that includes strong mythological ties the character developed when she was "reborn" by writer/artist George Perez in the 1980s and that continue to resonate in the comic today.
But who will play her? If the filmmakers decide to go for a big movie star, there may not be a lot to choose from. Sandra Bullock has been named as a possibility for the role for years, but at age 41, she might be a tad old for the numerous sequels the studio is obviously anticipating. Angelina Jolie might be perfect, bringing an exotic look and acting chops for the role. However, she's done the icon thing before with Lara Croft, and that didn't end well. Sarah Michelle Gellar made Whedon's Buffy come to life, but rumor has it they aren't interested in working together again. Jennifer Love Hewitt is another actress that people speculated could be a contender, but she might be a bit short for the role. Naomi Watts would be great, but would she do it?
A more authentic idea would be to go with a Latin actress, who would reflect Wonder Woman's Amazon roots. Salma Hayek and Penélope Cruz fit that bill, but Hayek is just way too short and Cruz's accent would be a problem for most American audiences. Jessica Alba is making waves with big movies this year, but one of those is "Fantastic Four," where she's playing the Invisible Woman. You can't play two different super heroes -- those are the rules (sorry, Jennifer Garner). Eva Mendes was great in "Hitch" and would bring some sass to the role, but for a truly inspired choice, I would consider (don't laugh) Jennifer Lopez. I know what you're thinking: "J-Lo? Did you see 'Gigli' and 'Jersey Girl'? Are you crazy?" Yes, everyone knows she has had some tough times recently, but her career is rebounding. And though she hasn't shown it lately, the girl can act when she wants too (remember "Out of Sight"?). She has the star power, the beauty and the booty for the role.
What is more likely is for an unknown to be cast in the role. Warner Bros. went this route with "Superman Returns," and it allows for more of the budget to be spent on production. Expect the real dollars to go to a more recognizable actor as the picture's villain. One lesser-known actress who is already volunteering is Morena Baccarin, who stars in "Serenity." While sitting in on a Los Angeles comic convention Q&A panel with Whedon last weekend, she made her desire to be considered apparent. Baccarin is of Brazilian ancestry, which might fit Whedon's requirements. But a search will likely go far and wide with many screen tests and internal discussions to come. Don't expect an announcement for some time.
Who do you think should be in the new "Wonder Woman" movie? Let me know at buzz@microsoft.com .</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Let me just say that the very idea of J-Lo as Diana is disasterous. Isn't she considered box-office poison by now after GIGLI? I'm all for ethnic diversity (not being white will do that to you), but I fail to see the writer's point of a Latin actress being closer to WW's Amazon roots. Anyway, even this guy/gal acknowledges that an unknown is a more feasible idea.
Anyone here ever heard of this Morena Baccarin mentioned in this article? Never seen SERENITY, so I have no clue.
rayray2021
03-28-2005, 02:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
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Let me just say that the very idea of J-Lo as Diana is disasterous. Isn't she considered box-office poison by now after GIGLI? I'm all for ethnic diversity (not being white will do that to you), but I fail to see the writer's point of a Latin actress being closer to WW's Amazon roots. Anyway, even this guy/gal acknowledges that an unknown is a more feasible idea.
Anyone here ever heard of this Morena Baccarin mentioned in this article? Never seen SERENITY, so I have no clue.
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She is very pretty, but she has the look of India more than Brazil. I'm not sure about her as Wonder Woman, but I could be wrong. I heard she was bout 5'9" or so, and as I said, she is very pretty. Look her up on www.imdb.com. (http://www.imdb.com.)
There are a few pics of her.
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Majik1387
03-28-2005, 04:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rayray2021:
<B> She is very pretty, but she has the look of India more than Brazil. I'm not sure about her as Wonder Woman, but I could be wrong. I heard she was bout 5'9" or so, and as I said, she is very pretty. Look her up on www.imdb.com. (http://www.imdb.com.)
There are a few pics of her.
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I think she would look good as Wonder Woman, and I find that unknown actors act a lot better than so-called "A" list actors. As for the height, they could add a few inches to the heels to make her taller. I could handle her as Wonder Woman.
KLA 1
03-28-2005, 11:57 PM
Hello. I thought I would step in with a little note here. Wonder Woman is depicted in the comics as a 5'11" Amazon Princess. Not an Amazonian. She should not be South American, unless she looked to be Greek. She is of the hierarchy of the Greek gods of Olympian glory and akin to Hercules. The South American river is named for the fabled race of myth, not the other way around.
There are a host of actresses ranging from 6'2"” Monika Schnarre to 5'10" Catherine Bell who could play the role and be of the appropriate physical stature. Other noted actress within this range include Geena Davis, Nicole Kidman, Claudia Schiffer, Molly Sims, Natasha Henstridge, Molly Culver, Charlize Theron, Siana, Brigitte Nielsen, Terry Farrell, Kristen Johnston, Elle MacPherson, Brooke Shields, Tyra Banks, Christie Brinkley, Famke Janssen, Mariel Hemmingway, Lucy Lawless, Uma Thurman, Minnie Driver, Gwyneth Paltrow, Laura Prepon and Peta Wilson. With these and other accomplished actresses to choose from, why go to an average height to shorter than average actress for the role. I looked up the heights for each of these. All are 5'10" or taller.
My personal favorite is Alana De La Garza. On the WB show The Mountain she seems to match the male stars for height. I have been unable to find her height listed anywhere so far. Anyway, she looks the part.
I did a series of manips for the DCG of various actreses in the role so that we could all see what they might look like.
KLA 1
03-28-2005, 11:59 PM
Accidently hit reply instead of edit. Sorry
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FireStormTrooper
03-29-2005, 09:57 AM
I don't know some of these actresses, but some I do. The ones I do know I can talk about ...
1. Monika Schnarre = ?, don't know
2. Catherine Bell = ?, don't know
3. Geena Davis = No, too old
4. Nicole Kidman = No, too old
5. Claudia Schiffer = No, can't act
6. Molly Sims = ?, don't know
7. Natasha Henstridge = No, can't act
8. Molly Culver = ?, don't know
9. Charlize Theron = Yes
10. Siana = ?, don't know
11. Brigitte Nielsen = No, too old and ugly as sin to boot
12. Terry Farrell = No, too old
13. Kristen Johnston = ?, don't know
14. Elle MacPherson = No, can't act
15. Brooke Shields = No, too old
16. Tyra Banks = No, can't act and she's Black
17. Christie Brinkley = No, too old
18. Famke Janssen = No, too old
19. Mariel Hemmingway = No, too old
20. Lucy Lawless = No, too butch
21. Uma Thurman = No, too lanky
22. Minnie Driver = No, too plain
23. Gwyneth Paltrow = No, too brittle
24. Laura Prepon = ?, don't know
25. Peta Wilson = ?, don't know
Well, out of 25 possible choices
1 Yes (Charlize Theron)
8 Don't knows
16 No
Most of your choices might have made a decent Diana if the movie was being made back in 1991, but as it is 2005, they are literally 10 years or more too old for the role.
And some were real head-scratchers ... I mean have you seen Bridgette "Dogface" Neilsen lately??? Her hot ROCKY IV days are soooo far past her and she looks like she's been beaten with the ugly stick several times over. Gross.
Tyra's hot, but a lousy actress and let's face it, no one is going to cast a Black Wonder Woman the first time out the gate.
The ones I hadn't heard of may be interesting, esp if they are young, tall, beautiful and can act. Guess we'll see. Though after looking at that Morena Baccarin girl, she's already a top pick in my book. Charlize would be perfect for the first movie, but regrettably not for the franchise ... too old (29).
KLA 1
03-29-2005, 08:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
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Most of your choices might have made a decent Diana if the movie was being made back in 1991, but as it is 2005, they are literally 10 years or more too old for the role.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wasn't suggesting these as choices and certainly not mine, other than Ala De La Garza. My point was that they have referenced names that are of shorter actresses 5'5"-5'8" for the role. This list is just the tip of a long list of possibilities. As for the comment about Tyra, why not, I just watched the new KOJAK and guess what he is. Damn good job he did too!
Seriously, I just want to see the role filled with someone that is of the proper physical stature for the role. They can dye the hair and use blue contact lens but they can't make a short actress tall enough for this character. High Heels (?), sure, she'll catch lots of bad guys in those. .....Stay safe.
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norrinraad
03-30-2005, 07:39 AM
I read a rumour (unsubstantiated) that Whedon has added Gina Philips to his list of desirables for the role.
I'm surprised no one mentioned her sooner. I rewatched Jeepers Creepers recently (the first one, not the atrocious sequel) and I think she would be great as Diana. She's unspeakably beautiful, has an athletic physique, and she has a vaguely exotic, Mediteranean look to her. Moreover, she's a competent actor. She has a natural gravity to her that screams to be taken seriously, without any of Lindsey Lohan's annoying self-awareness or Hilary Duff's insincere wholesomeness. She turns 30 this year too but looks younger so she could conceivably carry a franchise. And she's just obscure enough to be affordable, allowing production money to be spent elsewhere. She's about the best rumoured choice for the role I've read so far.
Can't say I'd be too thrilled with someone like Gina Phillips. I remember her from her small role in Ally McBeal. She might be a little too exotic for Wonder Woman - almost Gypsy-ish. And she didn't see so statuesque or Amazonian either - she wasn't all that tall.
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FireStormTrooper
03-30-2005, 01:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KLA 1
As for the comment about Tyra, why not, I just watched the new KOJAK and guess what he is. Damn good job he did too!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Huge differences in those two scenarios. Wonder Woman is a much bigger institution of pop culture than Kojak ever will be. WW's been around for 60+ years and stayed relatively relevant during that time. The character has been in thousands of comics and many, many animated series (all versions of Superfriends and Justice League). The character has an established look and feel. Kojak was a much smaller deal to begin with, and needed the extra buzz that the Ving Rhames casting would bring.
Wonder Woman doesn't need it because the character is so well known. Lynda Carter set the standard for the look of actresses playing the role of Diana. Plus, that kind of "edge" casting can and does backfire (i.e. Halle Berry as Catwoman) because once you dramatically change the ethnicity of a fictional icon, you usually change the story as well (see Patience Price vs. Selina Kyle). Plus, this is the first WW movie and needs to be as successful as possible. Edgy casting is simply far too risky to a potential film franchise like this.
norrinraad
03-30-2005, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Can't say I'd be too thrilled with someone like Gina Phillips. I remember her from her small role in Ally McBeal. She might be a little too exotic for Wonder Woman - almost Gypsy-ish. And she didn't see so statuesque or Amazonian either - she wasn't all that tall.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I noticed after I posted that she's only 5'3". Still, with modern technology it shouldn't be too hard to make her look more physically imposing.
The reason I'm totally for Philips is she's just so intense and smoldering, almost regal. I see the gypsy thing for sure, but I also see a stength that so many modern starlets are missing. Diana is closer to Superman in terms of power level than she is to Batman, and few known actresses seem able to convey that. I still think an unknown is the best way to go, but of the known actresses mentioned I would be most happy with Philips.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
<B> Yeah, I noticed after I posted that she's only 5'3". Still, with modern technology it shouldn't be too hard to make her look more physically imposing.
The reason I'm totally for Philips is she's just so intense and smoldering, almost regal. I see the gypsy thing for sure, but I also see a stength that so many modern starlets are missing. Diana is closer to Superman in terms of power level than she is to Batman, and few known actresses seem able to convey that. I still think an unknown is the best way to go, but of the known actresses mentioned I would be most happy with Philips. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But one shouldn't have to resort to camera trickery to make an actress physically imposing. There must be taller, unknown actresses out there who are statuesque and have a powerful screen presence. Even with camera angles, 5'3" still would look more squat and not quite the same as someone who is 5'11" or above.
If you look at someone like Russian tennis babe Maria Sharapova, who is 6 ft and statuesque, you can see how she looks different to a smaller tennis player. She would probably make a good Valkyrie (of the Defenders) if she could act since she is really quite Amazonian. That's the sort of build you really want for Wonder Woman.
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norrinraad
03-30-2005, 08:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B>But one shouldn't have to resort to camera trickery to make an actress physically imposing. There must be taller, unknown actresses out there who are statuesque and have a powerful screen presence. Even with camera angles, 5'3" still would look more squat and not quite the same as someone who is 5'11" or above.
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No no, I don't mean CGI to alter her appearance or anything like that. If there's an actress alive who doesn't need alteration, it's Philips. More along the lines of what they did with Lord Of The Rings to make regular humans look like hobbits. Depth perspective and stuff like that. As terrible as the Charlie's Angels movies were, they at least proved that ladies can be convincing in actions films, given the right photography and editing.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
If you look at someone like Russian tennis babe Maria Sharapova, who is 6 ft and statuesque, you can see how she looks different to a smaller tennis player. She would probably make a good Valkyrie (of the Defenders) if she could act since she is really quite Amazonian. That's the sort of build you really want for Wonder Woman.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, like I said, if they can find an actress like that, I'm all for going with an unknown. However, unless Whedon pulls something out of left field, he seems to be leaning towards a "name" actress. And really, I can't say that I blame him. Superman has been a viable box office draw going on 30 years now (I have no idea how successful the character was at the box office prior to 1978) and the franchise was built around an unknown, so casting Routh was not that big a risk. Wonder Woman, on the other hand, is going to be a slightly tougher sell for audiences who only have the (let's be honest here) campy 70s show as a point of reference.
Although I can't see her in the role, I can understand why Jennifer Lopez's name is being throw around. Regardless of what anyone thinks of her, she has a fan base that transcends not only gender, but race as well. Casting her would be a smart business move. Is she ideal for the role? Probably not, but she makes sense. Unless the budget for Wonder Woman is kept at reasonable levels, I honestly can't see WBs taking any serious risks in terms of casting the lead role.
Of course, I could be wrong... http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
<B> Although I can't see her in the role, I can understand why Jennifer Lopez's name is being throw around. Regardless of what anyone thinks of her, she has a fan base that transcends not only gender, but race as well. Casting her would be a smart business move. Is she ideal for the role? Probably not, but she makes sense. Unless the budget for Wonder Woman is kept at reasonable levels, I honestly can't see WBs taking any serious risks in terms of casting the lead role.
Of course, I could be wrong... http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't know if she's still like this, but doesn't Jennifer Lopez usually have quite a big bum? I remember watching a documentary on her recently and she was remarking how she eventually made peace with her bum (when she was a dancer) as she decided it made her stand out more. Her thighs didn't seem exactly so trim either. Now, I know Wonder Woman is meant to be Amazonian, but if Lopez still has a big bum and flabby thighs, this will bring a new meaning to the word "statuesque" - maybe a statue of a big bum, but certainly not an Amazonian!
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D.K.HOOD
03-31-2005, 01:37 PM
I've been watching quite a bit of Spanish language television lately and let me tell you there's a about half a dozen actresses I've seen who'd be waaaaaaaaay more suitable for Wonder Woman than J-Lo or Carmen Electra, or any of these other names I'm sick of hearing about. Besides, why do people insist on talking about actresses who are barely 5'6 with short legs? Any woman cast in the role should at least be 5'9(preferably 5'11) with legs that stretch from here to eternity! And they shouldn't be stick-figure model thin either.
norrinraad
03-31-2005, 02:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
I don't know if she's still like this, but doesn't Jennifer Lopez usually have quite a big bum? I remember watching a documentary on her recently and she was remarking how she eventually made peace with her bum (when she was a dancer) as she decided it made her stand out more. Her thighs didn't seem exactly so trim either. Now, I know Wonder Woman is meant to be Amazonian, but if Lopez still has a big bum and flabby thighs, this will bring a new meaning to the word "statuesque" - maybe a statue of a big bum, but certainly not an Amazonian!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Look at it the other way, that butt is probably more of a lethal weapon than any magic lassoo! Who needs bullet deflecting bracelets when you've got that puppy to protect you?
(Semi) seriously, check out her latest video, she's looking pretty buff these days. And again, in no way am I saying she should get the role, but it's starting to look obvious why the suits are looking her way.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I've been watching quite a bit of Spanish language television lately and let me tell you there's a about half a dozen actresses I've seen who'd be waaaaaaaaay more suitable for Wonder Woman than J-Lo or Carmen Electra, or any of these other names I'm sick of hearing about. Besides, why do people insist on talking about actresses who are barely 5'6 with short legs? Any woman cast in the role should at least be 5'9(preferably 5'11) with legs that stretch from here to eternity! And they shouldn't be stick-figure model thin either.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Did I mention that J-Lo keeps a bottle of Eternity perfume strapped to her knees? So that stretch from here to eternity is only just over 1 ft for her! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
<B> Look at it the other way, that butt is probably more of a lethal weapon than any magic lassoo! Who needs bullet deflecting bracelets when you've got that puppy to protect you?
(Semi) seriously, check out her latest video, she's looking pretty buff these days. And again, in no way am I saying she should get the role, but it's starting to look obvious why the suits are looking her way.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, buff. But where? If she's buff in her forearms that is still not going to do anything to put that butt behind her! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
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FireStormTrooper
04-01-2005, 09:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad
Yeah, like I said, if they can find an actress like that, I'm all for going with an unknown. However, unless Whedon pulls something out of left field, he seems to be leaning towards a "name" actress.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
From Joss Whedon (see earlier post in this thread): "Everybody is in agreement that casting is not an issue right now. It's not a vehicle to be built around a particular star. We want to write the thing, find the right character and then figure out who should play her. There are various famous people whose names have come up, because that always happens, but you know, we're talking about Wonder Woman here. Those are tough booties to fill. I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says,adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends."
I'd take this to mean No Sarah Michelle Gellar, no Charisma Carpenter, no Angelina Jolie, no J-Lo. I honestly don't see a big-name star getting this part. It feels like Joss is looking for the "Christopher Reeve/Hugh Jackman" factor, where a relative unknown steps into a role and simply becomes the character. The character is the celebrity, the celebrity is NOT the character.
Anyway, about Alana De La Garza. She's beautiful and leggy and could get buff. Are her eyes green, hazel or brown? On her website, they change depending on the pic. But it says that she's 28. If Whedon is casting younger than usual, she, like my own fave Charlize Theron, are out because they're both too close to 30. Sad.
What does Whedon mean by "casting younger" though? Someone could be 19 and look 30, whereas someone in their 30s could look considerably younger in their early 20s - I've known people like that myself. Doesn't someone like Kylie Minogue look younger than her mid-thirties, as an example?
That means that if someone is close to 30 but looks right, does it really matter that they aren't technically as young as Whedon might hope for?
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norrinraad
04-01-2005, 11:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
I'd take this to mean No Sarah Michelle Gellar, no Charisma Carpenter, no Angelina Jolie, no J-Lo. I honestly don't see a big-name star getting this part. It feels like Joss is looking for the "Christopher Reeve/Hugh Jackman" factor, where a relative unknown steps into a role and simply becomes the character. The character is the celebrity, the celebrity is NOT the character.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
"According to a report in today's Herald Sun, Mischa Barton is another on Warner's "Wonder Woman" wish-list. The hot little thespian - who, well, admit it, could be a snug fit for that "Wonder" Bra - is carving out a bit of a film career for herself, thanks to her popular stint on FOX's "The OC"."
"Wonder Woman writer/director Joss Whedon announced this week that he's looking for an actress in her early twenties to play the Amazon princess, and he has for once and all, confirmed that he won't be using any of his former "Buffy" or "Angel" cast members - namely Sarah Michelle Gellar or Charisma Carpenter - for the DC comic adaptation."
"However, Producer Joel Silver apparently favours Jessica Biel for the part."
So, once again we seem to have a tug-of-war between the studio and producer wanting a "star" and the director wanting an "actor". It's kind of sad really, because I don't believe this is spin. I really think Whedon wants the best actress for the role, regardless of Hollywood clout. However, the ones who write the cheques have something different in mind. And for the record, I think Barton is a terrible choice, not to mention a terrible actor.
I agree with FireStormTrooper, I think an unknown should be cast in the title role. There's always the option to surround her with "name" actors if absolutely necessary. However, Whedon doesn't have the box office clout that Singer has, so this could go either way.
norrinraad
04-01-2005, 11:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
What does Whedon mean by "casting younger" though? Someone could be 19 and look 30, whereas someone in their 30s could look considerably younger in their early 20s - I've known people like that myself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, between the ages of, say, 22 to 28, age kind of ceases to be a factor. It's nowhere near as relevant as the difference between 14 and 18, where each year brings radical change. I'm thinking he means someone like Jessica Biel, who is 23 but could conceivably play a character in her late 20s to early 30s. He's probably thinking more of long term franchise potential than anything else.
KLA 1
04-02-2005, 09:22 PM
I am one of those nearly senior citizens that had been reading DC since the 1960s. Wonder Woman has been here for as long as I can remember. I will be 50 this year and the Wonder Woman character is older than I am. Though she had, to me, always seemed to be in her 30s.
As a result, having a younger person (especially a teen) would seem really strange to me. Then that may just be me, though I am on the trailing end of the baby boomers, and part of the largest demographic age wise in our country. We are the ones that watched Lynda Carter in the role. So I wonder how well the movie would do if it doesn't try to pull in us older folks. I'll definitely be watching with interest.
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I just came across an actress by the name of Alanna Ubach whose main claim-to-fame are the Legally Blonde flicks. Anyways, she has the look of WW, but I know nothing about her acting skills.
Alanna Ubach's only 5'2". Unless she wears 7" heels, I'd say she was "no go" for Wonder Woman.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DS:
Alanna Ubach's only 5'2". Unless she wears 7" heels, I'd say she was "no go" for Wonder Woman.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
She could use stilts! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
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FireStormTrooper
04-24-2005, 09:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted on comics2film
<B>BRUCE WILLIS' ex NADIA BJORLIN is fighting to suit up as WONDER WOMAN in BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER creator JOSS WHEDON's new comic book adaptation.
The former opera singer, who made her name as a star in US daytime soap DAYS OF OUR LIVES, admits she wants to be considered alongside JESSICA BIEL and other hopefuls when it comes to casting for the role.
She says, "I'm a tall, statuesque, Amazonian type."</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I gotta admit that after checking out her profile on www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) , she certainly looks the part, despite being only 5'8". I don't know her from anything else and would certainly prefer her to Jessica Biel.
I guess my ideal actress to play Wonder Woman would be a relative unknown (no big movie star or tabloid fodder) who stood at least 5'10" barefoot, with blue or grey eyes and naturally dark hair, between the ages of 24 and 28, really athletic with some genuine acting talent. Does anyone know of anyone who would fit that requirement?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
<B> Originally posted on comics2film
BRUCE WILLIS' ex NADIA BJORLIN is fighting to suit up as WONDER WOMAN in BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER creator JOSS WHEDON's new comic book adaptation.
The former opera singer, who made her name as a star in US daytime soap DAYS OF OUR LIVES, admits she wants to be considered alongside JESSICA BIEL and other hopefuls when it comes to casting for the role.
She says, "I'm a tall, statuesque, Amazonian type."</B>
I gotta admit that after checking out her profile on www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) , she certainly looks the part, despite being only 5'8". I don't know her from anything else and would certainly prefer her to Jessica Biel.
I guess my ideal actress to play Wonder Woman would be a relative unknown (no big movie star or tabloid fodder) who stood at least 5'10" barefoot, with blue or grey eyes and naturally dark hair, between the ages of 24 and 28, really athletic with some genuine acting talent. Does anyone know of anyone who would fit that requirement?[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I dunno - 5'8" seems a bit short to me. Yeah, I'd like someone like you describe, except that I'd want her more like 5'11" or 6' in barefeet. I guess she wouldn't have to be naturally dark haired though, as long as she has good skin and could carry off a look of having dark hair.
It's more that someone with lighter hair might usually have lighter skin and might look too pale with dark hair, but there are some women who are blonde and have great naturally tanned, Mediterranean-looking skin. So as long as they have that, then they could also work if they dye their hair. Why limit the number of actresses who could audition when it's hard enough finding one right now?
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The Xenos
04-24-2005, 12:31 PM
Well she's half Persian and half Sweedish. Greece is almost half way between those two countries. Heh. Actually, a while ago I had her as a young Talia for a Batman Begins type of TV show in the DCG.
-Xenos
I actually think Nadia Bjorlin would be a good choice for Wonder Woman. 5'8" is a good height, which could easily look taller with heels (especially when compared to the shortness of so many male Hollywood actors), plus she's something of a wunderkind in many areas (including already multi-lingual in SEVERAL languages), which would be fantastic to see in Wonder Woman if it was used, considering that she's supposed to be an ambassador to ALL of the "outside world," and not just America.
Plus, she's got those spooky cool eyes that Alex Ross has made famous with the character.
D.K.HOOD
04-24-2005, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B> Heh. Actually, a while ago I had her as a young Talia for a Batman Begins type of TV show in the DCG.
-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Damn, you're right, she would have made a good Talia.
As for what Welschcat sad about preferring her to Jessica Biel, eh I wouldn't go that far. Too bad they can't swap faces because Biel is physically imposing enough to be Wonder Woman but when I look at her face she just doesn't look like Diana at all.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
<B> Damn, you're right, she would have made a good Talia.
As for what Welschcat sad about preferring her to Jessica Biel, eh I wouldn't go that far. Too bad they can't swap faces because Biel is physically imposing enough to be Wonder Woman but when I look at her face she just doesn't look like Diana at all. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Eh? I think Firestormtrooper said that, not me. It was in his quote part although not in bold because that got messed up. But I would probably agree with that anyway.
Now as for face swapping, there was that movie called Face/Off http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif
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kidcomix
04-25-2005, 10:47 AM
I was curious who this Nadja person was so I checked out her resume. She really hasn't done much except appear on a daytime soap Days of Our Lives and she's not half bad as an actress. I mean Bryan Singer is going with a soap star to play in the Superman flick. Perhaps she might be able to pull of WW but as far as appearing physically imposing as the amazon. She better be wearing platform shoes or stilletos.
D.K.HOOD
04-25-2005, 11:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> Eh? I think Firestormtrooper said that, not me.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oops! Zoinks! Yikes! Yowza! and of course My Bad!
norrinraad
04-25-2005, 11:14 AM
I'm not so sure how important the whole height issue actually is. Peter Jackson didn't hesitate to cast Elijah Wood as a hobbit. Tom Cruise is something like 5'6" and it hasn't hurt his career any. As long as the lady can act and can be convincing as an Amazon Princess, we should be okay. With modern tenchology, creating the illusion of height isn't that big a deal.
FireStormTrooper
04-27-2005, 08:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
I'm not so sure how important the whole height issue actually is. Peter Jackson didn't hesitate to cast Elijah Wood as a hobbit. Tom Cruise is something like 5'6" and it hasn't hurt his career any.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Elijah Wood is something like 5'6" (as were all the actors who played hobbits). They were already pretty short to begin with. And they were playing shorter characters. Short people can play shorter. Tall people can play taller than they are.
Tom Cruise has a successful career in part because he makes his lack of height a non-factor in his movies. You would never believe that Cruise was as big as Superman. Likewise, you wouldn't believe a 5'2" actress was an Amazon.
Seeing as they're casting relative unknowns for the WW movie anyway, why not pick one that already has the physical attributes of the character with some acting ability? Not all tall athletic starlets are talent-less, you know. And it's not like this is Shakespeare we're talking about.
norrinraad
04-27-2005, 10:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
Not all tall athletic starlets are talent-less, you know. And it's not like this is Shakespeare we're talking about.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Really??? http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/tongue.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
Seeing as they're casting relative unknowns for the WW movie anyway, why not pick one that already has the physical attributes of the character with some acting ability?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've been saying that for awhile now, actually. However, if such an actress cannot be found, I don't think a shorter lady who looks the part and can act should be disqualified because of her height. It's illogical due to the availability of modern technology, and history has shown us that an actor does not have to physically match a character perfectly to be effective. Hugh Jackman is a tall, lanky, song & dance man from Australian, yet few would argue that he made an awesome Wolverine. Keep an open mind, is all I'm saying.
D.K.HOOD
04-27-2005, 11:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
I don't think a shorter lady who looks the part and can act should be disqualified because of her height. It's illogical due to the availability of modern technology, and history has shown us that an actor does not have to physically match a character perfectly to be effective. Hugh Jackman is a tall, lanky, song & dance man from Australian, yet few would argue that he made an awesome Wolverine. Keep an open mind, is all I'm saying.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually casting Wonder Woman is different norrin because of her Amazonian background. Amazons are thought of as tall, solid, and athletic, so whoever they cast as Wonder Woman should be the same. Why waste a cent on special effects trying to make an actress look taller when you can just cast someone who fits the build.
norrinraad
04-27-2005, 02:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
Actually casting Wonder Woman is different norrin because of her Amazonian background. Amazons are thought of as tall, solid, and athletic, so whoever they cast as Wonder Woman should be the same. Why waste a cent on special effects trying to make an actress look taller when you can just cast someone who fits the build.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very true DK, and like I said that's exactly the kind of actress I'd like to see cast. If they can find an actress with the right height, build, look, and talent I can't imagine anyone would be disappointed. However, if that proves impossible, we may have to look at some alternatives.
I mentioned Wolverine because his was a very difficult role to cast. He was arguably one of the most famous characters in comics and he had a huge young male fan base which is notoriously fickle (if you don't believe it check out the Talkbacks over at AICN). He also had some very defining physical characteristics, so much so that Danzig (!) was suggested as a viable casting option. Singer took a huge gamble by choosing acting over exact physical resemblance, yet it paid off big time. As an aside, even Lynda Carter, who many consider to be the definitive version of the character, was only 5'9" in real life. Not exactly an Amazon, no?
Again, if perfect casting for Wonder Woman exists, I say bring it on. However, if compromise is necessary, I still maintain that height is the least important criteria given how easy it is to create a convincing illusion.
As an aside, even Lynda Carter, who many consider to be the definitive version of the character, was only 5'9" in real life. Not exactly an Amazon, no?
Sorry, but you've got to admit... a 5'9" woman in 3" heels is a pretty darn impressive sight. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif
A woman who's only 5'4" in those heels is simply... average.
WonderWomanGoddess
04-28-2005, 07:34 PM
Let's hope this version of WW does not wear 3 inch heels.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WonderWomanGoddess:
Let's hope this version of WW does not wear 3 inch heels.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Speak for yourself. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
Stonewall
05-11-2005, 11:11 AM
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/ocean_s_twelve/nadia_bjorlin/twelvepreg.jpg
Here are a few thoughts on why I like Nadia Bjorlin in no particular order.
1. Star Power. It is true that people aren't going to line up to see Nadia Bjorlin. I think the distinction is that people will line up to see Wonder Woman. If the film follows the formula of the 1978 Superman and Batman Begins, then I think an unknown is preferable to play Wonder Woman. In an origin story, the audience gets a chance to learn about our heroine while the heroine is learning man's world. Nadia would do nicely here. The star power should be in the supporting cast. Batman Begins is pulling out all the stops in the supporting cast--Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Michael Caine, Liam Neeson, etc.
The best example I can think of to avoid a "name" actress is Hallee Berry's Catwoman. One of the hotest actresses in Hollywood couldn't save the movie. Another fine example of the star power problem is George Clooney and the all star cast of Batman and Robin.
2. The 3 Picture Deal. A lot of the people the get spitballed around for Wonder Woman (Zeta-Jones, Connelly, Belluci, Graham, Moss) are about 40. In today's age of super hero trilogies, I can't see us all being excited about the ageless amazon approaching 50. Besides, since Whedon wants to do an origin film and it makes more sense to go with a younger actress. Nadia is just 23 or 24.
3. The Crisis/Post Crisis Wonder Woman. A lot of folks on other boards have called for a more ethnic looking Wonder Woman. That's all well and good, I agree WW is more interesting after Perez took the book myself.
But that leaves us with 2 problems. 1. Pop culture (the movie-going public) still sees WW as Lynda Carter or the more traditional 40's vision of the dark hair, blue eyes, fair skin. WW needs to be recognizable to the move going public. 2. Perez decided to follow the tradition with WW and didn't draw her as more foreign looking either. Perez, Ross, and everyone else who draws her for 60 years has stuck with the traditional view: tall, dark hair, blue eyes, athletic. Nadia makes a nice compromise between the 2 camps, but still looks right for the part.
4. Appearance. I like that Nadia is 5'8" (if she goes into WWs traditional heels, then she's going to be 5'10" or so), young, blue eyed, curvy. She reminds me more of Alex Ross' vision of WW. When I look at Nadia, it isn't a stretch to imagine her throwing chevy's around in a street fight. If we agree that the pecking order in the comics is basically Superman, Captain Marvel then Wonder Woman, then I like Nadia visually as a woman who can go toe to toe with Superman. At the same time, she's really pretty. Surf over to her official site and see the swimsuit pics she did a couple of years ago, she would be great in the traditional costume.
5. Less Baggage. Whedon gets to avoid the prima donna syndrome. He has a good track record of getting good results from inexperienced actors. Since this would be her break out role, she'd just be happy to be there and easy to work with. Nadia is a blank slate for the public, so you don't have to think, "Wonder Woman used to carry a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood around with her." When the character you play is iconic, it's kind of nice to avoid making it strange to admire the actor. Another thought here, Since WW was created by Moulton Marston to be a heroic example to girls--it might be nice to avoid a WW who has made a career by posing naked. It's al little like typecasting here, but I'd rather avoid the situation where the actress causes dissonance for the role. Imagine Christina Aguilera playing the virgin Mary for instance.
6. Intangibles. She speaks like 5-6 languages. It would be fun to see a really international sort of WW (don't know if the film would call for it). She sings, she plays instruments, it might be fun to see a more cultured part of WW that the comics occasionally allude to. Nadia does things that could bring depth to the role.
7. Story. This is less about Nadia, but important to WW. This is the first story. Why is it that WW is leaving paradise again? I wouldn't mind seeing something like Jor-El's monologue in Superman. Superman is being sent on a mission to help people. I think WW probably needs a similar theme. I would write the story basically with her as a "missionary" of sorts. She is out to change people's minds/hearts/whatever. Maybe have her start out as sort of an Amazon fundamentalist and then have to mellow as the movie goes on?
Maybe an initial story would be finding that man's world isn't really interested in her "help"? I might avoid a big cosmic battle in the first film (bring the greek pantheon in later) but focus on what her mission is and how to accomplish it. She is a paradox, she's gentle, kind and wants to see people change for the better, but she's willing to bloody her knuckles too. I think it would be fun to actually see guys commit crimes/take hostages/whatever with a demand to surrender to WW. This is an older part of the comics, but funny anyway. Men would commit crimes just to get to be with WW. This is an important aspect to the character: men love her, women want to be her.
I might use the comics Veronica Cale (sort of the current Lex Luthor for her) to be in conflict with, or maybe have her inspire a movement of "Amazons" who end up missing the point of what she's all about and become terrorists or something. (Think the sons of the Batman from The Dark Knight Returns or all those bumper stickers, "Jesus, protect me from your followers"). Maybe a little of the pantheon could fit here, like Discord or something.
In short, I'd give the film a theme that you can explain in 10 words or less and make a movie about it. Part of why Superman (1978) or Spiderman were so successful is that they are simple themes and easy to explain. I think Whedon should do the same here, create a simple theme and deep complex characters to play it out. Then in part two or three she can fight Ares.
Anyway, I like Nadia for the part. I'd still go see a non-Catwoman type movie with another lead though.
Thanks
kidcomix
05-12-2005, 02:14 PM
:? Is it me or does Nadia remind you of Yasmeen Bleeth?
norrinraad
05-12-2005, 02:55 PM
Sheesh, where do they find these people? I take the subway every day and see literally hundreds of people and 99% of them are instantly forgettable. Definitely no one who looks like this "Nadia". It just reaffirms that beautiful people are definitely a minority in this world of ours.
It must really be something to work in Hollywood, being surrounded by beauty day in and day out.
And just to steer this puppy back on track, if this girl can act I could live with her as Wonder Woman... :D
Znluvx
05-25-2005, 07:00 AM
Has anyone seen or heard of HELENA PAPARIZOU?
She is a 23 year-old, Swedish-born, Greek singer who just won the Eurovision Song Contest (and is apparently beloved by the Greece.)
She is absolutely stunning! http://www.helenapaparizou.com
If she can act, she definitely has my vote for WW.
Hurry up Whedon and get this girl in for a screen test.
MilleniumBum
06-01-2005, 08:46 AM
the newly crowned Miss Universe from Canada seems like an interesting choice. i think she's around 5'11" raven-haired and sexy. smart, too.
KLA 1
06-04-2005, 02:11 AM
Have you guys heard that Jenthony Lopez wants to be Wonder Woman? I think she's delusional, y'know?
Anyway, actress/model Kim Smith has also expressed an interest in the role in her recent Maxim interview.
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I did a manip of Kim Smith as WW, at the suggestion of Biohaz, sometime back. It is at http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=17625&f_ssn=&f_fooble=28 :)
sfer1
06-05-2005, 01:41 PM
Jennifer Connelly should play Wonder Woman. She's one of the most beautiful women ever, the personification of Adam Hughes' WW (his interpretation of the character is based on her) and a great, Oscar winning actress. Jennifer would lend credibility to the movie.
http://img146.echo.cx/img146/3519/jcaswwvsahww9mj.jpg
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/7601/jenniferconnellyprof4fc.jpg
http://img16.echo.cx/img16/6180/jenleo8et.jpg
http://img16.echo.cx/img16/5883/jenleo8hz.jpg
BTW, Jennifer is 34, not almost 40. And she looks younger than her age.
Nadia Bjorlin is better known for being Bruce Willis' ex than for her acting abilities. She's been in 'Days of our Lives' for several years. If she were any good, she would have been offered better roles by now. She can't act her way out of a paper bag. Besides, the character isn't supposed to look so young.
sfer1
06-05-2005, 02:33 PM
I don't think it's a good idea to cast an unknown.
Don't bring up Christopher Reeve, Lynda Carter and Hugh Jackman.
- Reeve was one in a million. And they took a chance with him, because times were different. Back then, most famous actors would have declined such a role, afraid of looking stupid in tights. Now, they're willing to play comic book based characters. Besides, Reeve had a theater background.
- Carter was very beautiful, but she wasn't a very good actress and the TV show was campy. The movie needs to be a lot better than the series to do well. And Whedon needs to cast a better actress.
- 'X-Men' had a large cast. Jackman was fine as ONE of the MANY characters in the movie, but 'X-Men' didn't depend on his performance. None of the movies he starred ('Swordfish', 'Kate & Leopold' and 'Van Helsing') was very good. He's not such an amazing find.
Unknowns who played lead roles and did well are exceptions. One can name maybe 10 in the last 50 years of film history. The fact that casting an unknown worked a few times in the past doesn't make it a good idea to give a demanding lead role to an unexperienced actress and hope that she can act.
Besides, Wonder Woman isn't as popular as Superman, Batman, Spider-Man or X-Men. There's a reason several animated series of Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and X-Men have been made in the last decade, but none of Wonder Woman.
And there're many people who think like this guy:
Am I the only one scared that his only major movie credit is Alien 4 and besides that his writing credits are Buffy and Angel? I dunno it just gives me the willys about this guy.
This movie already has a relatively unknown director. Some of us know Whedon because we watched his TV shows (I personally loved 'BtVS' and 'Firefly'), but a lot of people didn't. Even worse, many of the people who didn't watch 'BtVS', judged the show by its title and assumed it was dumb. So "from the creator of 'Buffy'" doesn't have a good connotation for them. There're also those who blame Joss for 'Alien: Resurrection' not being as good as the first three. If a great famous actress played Wonder Woman, it might help validate the movie in the mind of these people.
A relatively unknown (and not highly appreciated by some people) director + an unknown lead actress + Wonder Woman = a movie that might look small
Even if they found a fantastic unknown actress, who can do the job like the more experienced ones, I think the movie would have an unknown too many.
Artistically and commercially, it would do good to the movie to have Jennifer.
http://img275.echo.cx/img275/3623/dwad017kg.jpg
Don't bring up Halle Berry either. 'Catwoman' didn't suck because they cast a famous actress, but because they cast the wrong one. The bad script had also a lot to do with it.
And don't tell me people would associate Jennifer with her previous roles. She "is" Wonder Woman. She looks the part so much that Adam Hughes' interpretation of the character is based on her.
When I heard of the Wonder Woman character coming to life again I immediately thought of JENNIFER CONNELLY.So did all my friends and I.
norrinraad
06-06-2005, 07:16 AM
Good points all around. And I doubt anyone would be disappointed if Jennifer was cast. In fact, I know many people here have been suggesting her for years. The question is, would she do it? At this stage of her career I'm sure she wants to be taken as seriously as possible, and after Halle's experience with Catwoman and the other Jennifer's experience with Elektra it may have soured her to C2Fs. I'd love to see her cast, though.
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"He upsets Ben, that's all there is to it."
-Jennifer Garner, justifying why she's trying to get her Alias co-worker Michael Vartan fired.
easy D
06-06-2005, 12:37 PM
Well, she might do it. She's already done two (The Rocketeer and Hulk). She might like to actually be the superhero in a film, and not the hero's girlfriend, like in the other two films.
I wouldn't mind seeing Jennifer Connelly. What I wouldn't want to see is Katie Holmes at WW, as recently rumoured. Is Joss Whedon only able to choose from either Buffy types, or Dawson's Creek types?
sfer1
06-06-2005, 11:25 PM
Katie Holmes is nowhere near beautiful enough to play WW. The girl has a chubby face. Not to mention she's already Bruce Wayne's love interest in 'Batman Begins'.
kidcomix
06-07-2005, 01:54 AM
:wink: Jennifer Connelly has always been my first choice for WW but Whedon has been looking at making the character under 30 and reinventing her minus the star spangled outfit. He's stated in several interviews that he doesn't want to use any of his past actresses in either the Buffyverse or with Firefly, so Sarah Michelle Gellar and Charisma Carpenter are out of the running. I'm still placing my bet on a relative unknown and see what Whedon is doing with the reinterpretation of the amazon.
KLA 1
06-07-2005, 08:49 AM
I have done a couple of manips for WW using an Australian model/actress by the name of Megan Gale. She is 5'11" and beautiful. The only thing to alter would be her green eyes. Colored contacts would cover that well enough. There are several fan site devoted to her. Take a look at http://www.megangale.20m.com/ and at http://wonderfulmegangale.50megs.com/
This woman is a superstar in Italy while being a virtual unknown here in the USA. That would seem the perfect compromise. Connely fans will be surprised at the resemblance in some of her pictures. :D
D.K.HOOD
06-07-2005, 11:09 AM
Its amazing how we in the US make ho-bags like Paris Hilton, Pamela Anderson, Carmen Electra, etc. etc. into big stars and yet is what we are missing out on overseas. http://www.musicaecomputer.com/belledonne/gale/megan1.jpg[/url]
easy D
06-07-2005, 12:23 PM
In the words of Austin Powers, "She looks rather man-ish". In other words, she'd be perfect as an Alex Ross Wonder Woman!
norrinraad
06-07-2005, 12:37 PM
"She looks rather man-ish".
Agreed, she looks like a drag queen. I wouldn't be surprised if she lip lynchs to Shakira onstage to make ends meet between acting gigs...
__________
"I want to be, like, the next Eminem."
Mr Britney Spears, Kevin Federline, proving delusion is universal.
KLA 1
06-07-2005, 07:51 PM
In the words of Austin Powers, "She looks rather man-ish". In other words, she'd be perfect as an Alex Ross Wonder Woman! :? The picture displayed is one of her worst. Take a look at other pictures in the sites.
Norrinraad's drag queen comment is way off, particulary if you look at the others available, such as these four
http://www.megangale.20m.com/cgi-bin/i/m10.jpg,
http://www.megangale.20m.com/cgi-bin/i/m12.jpg,
http://www.megangale.20m.com/cgi-bin/i/m30.jpg,
http://www.megangale.20m.com/cgi-bin/i/m26.jpg.
There are some others from a calendar that is easy to find at http://www.webissimo.it/gale/index.htm. Norrinraad's other, incredibly immature, comments are not worth addressing. 8)
kidcomix
06-07-2005, 10:04 PM
:lol: Nice casting choice for WW. Now only if this model can act.
D.K.HOOD
06-07-2005, 10:23 PM
Ouch. You guys really think she looks man-ish in that pic? I think she looks strong, and maybe her face is a little skewed in that picture, but I don't see how she looks mani-ish. You'd think I'd posted a picture of Chyna or one of those female bodybuilders that Laserskater is obsessed with judging by your comments. Granted, she's not as pretty as Jennifer Conollly, but c'mon.
sfer1
06-07-2005, 11:34 PM
http://img34.echo.cx/img34/7375/jenwwregal6bm.jpg
easy D
06-08-2005, 01:29 AM
Ouch. You guys really think she looks man-ish in that pic? I think she looks strong, and maybe her face is a little skewed in that picture, but I don't see how she looks mani-ish. You'd think I'd posted a picture of Chyna or one of those female bodybuilders that Laserskater is obsessed with judging by your comments. Granted, she's not as pretty as Jennifer Conollly, but c'mon.
Actually, "man-ish" might've been too strong of a word for Ms. Gale. But her some of facial features are prominent, particularly her forehead and chin. Plus it looks like her lips are fake. I don't know if they are or not, but, they look it. The body looks fine, though. Just the face.
I like the idea of Jennifer Connelly as Wonder Woman, though. She does display a sense of wisdom and vulnerability, not a lot of strength.
I also like the idea of Peta Wilson (from TV's La Femme Nikita and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen), but she might be too old, according to Joss Whedon's preferences, damn you, Joss Whedon. She's in her early 30's and if you've seen her Playboy pictorial, she definately has the body. All they have to do is dye her hair black and, ta-da!, instant Wonder Woman. Here's some pictures that I hope prove a point...
http://ruggedelegantliving.com/a/images/Peta.Wilson.jpg
http://eti.ru/pictures/peta/022.jpg
norrinraad
06-09-2005, 03:04 PM
Norrinraad's other, incredibly immature, comments are not worth addressing.
Hey! Words hurt, ya know!
:roll:
KLA 1
06-09-2005, 07:37 PM
Norrinraad's other, incredibly immature, comments are not worth addressing.
Hey! Words hurt, ya know!
:roll: :!: It appears that you got the point. The likelyhood is that there is a press agent that is regularly searching the web for references to Miss Gale. She (as well as other celebs) may well see references made about them here. I don't think any of us should assume that insults made about others here won't be seen.
I personally have not seen any movies that Miss Gale has been in; so I don't know if she can act. Then again they are Italian movies and I don't speak Italian; Miss Gale does.
easilydissolvedinwater, I agree that Peta would probably do well. And she would need only to stop dying her hair if it's naturally as dark as parts appear to be. I do miss La Femme Nikita.
D.K.HOOD
06-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Didn't Peta have dark hair or a dark wig in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? I don't recall looking at her and thinking she looked particularly like Diana/WW at all. She is gorgeous though and has a great body, but I'd actually prefer Jennifer Connolly as Diana over Peta Wilson. But you have given me another option for casting Cheetah!
easy D
06-09-2005, 10:41 PM
She had red hair. Believe me, I own the movie!
And as for Cheetah, well, I'm not too keen on her. Now, I'm not too familiar with Wonder Woman or her villains (all I know about her is from old episodes of Superfriends and Justice League), but didn't she have an enemy who was also a wizard or something. He was on Justice League, and he had turned all the residents of WW home into statues, and tricked the Justice League into gathering some artifacts or something....
Felix Faust! That's his name! He might be better. Tie in the whole Greek mythos and everything. Cheetah might remind everyone of another female villain with a hairball problem...
*cough, Catwoman, cough*
norrinraad
06-10-2005, 07:14 AM
It appears that you got the point. The likelyhood is that there is a press agent that is regularly searching the web for references to Miss Gale. She (as well as other celebs) may well see references made about them here. I don't think any of us should assume that insults made about others here won't be seen.
Oh, please forgive me Miss Gale! I said you LOOK like a drag queen, I didn't say you actually WERE one. I'm sure under those 10 pounds of makeup you're all woman, sweetie!
MUAH!! :twisted:
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Anyway, I'm editing this post because I didn't realise KLA 1 until seeing your profile that you're an older gentleman, and I definitely don't want to come across as disrespectful. Pls understand that the things I post are always deadly serious or at the very least tongue-in-cheek. My comment about the actress Miss Gale was actually meant to be serious. She does look quite masculine in that pic, but so what? Pam Anderson is also a grotesque exaggeration of femininity and it hasn't hurt her career any. And for the record, those additional pics you posted do make her look more like a woman. Even the best of us can photograph poorly in the wrong light... :)
Anyway, I didn't want to give the impression that I'm some smart ass punk. If my comments offended you KLA 1, I do apologize.
D.K.HOOD
06-10-2005, 05:58 PM
She had red hair. Believe me, I own the movie!
Oh, ok, well, somebody do a manip of Peta as Wonder Woman and lets see how she looks.
She had red hair. Believe me, I own the movie!
Oh, ok, well, somebody do a manip of Peta as Wonder Woman and lets see how she looks.
Not me!!! I really don't like the idea of Peta Wilson as WW. I don't really like her acting, and she doesn't really strike me as a WW type either.
easy D
06-11-2005, 12:24 AM
Anyway, I'm editing this post because I didn't realise KLA 1 until seeing your profile that you're an older gentleman, and I definitely don't want to come across as disrespectful. Pls understand that the things I post are always deadly serious or at the very least tongue-in-cheek. My comment about the actress Miss Gale was actually meant to be serious. She does look quite masculine in that pic, but so what? Pam Anderson is also a grotesque exaggeration of femininity and it hasn't hurt her career any. And for the record, those additional pics you posted do make her look more like a woman. Even the best of us can photograph poorly in the wrong light... :)
Anyway, I didn't want to give the impression that I'm some smart ass punk. If my comments offended you KLA 1, I do apologize.
Nah, man. I'm the smart ass punk. Just so we get things straight. If you don't think so, just say something dumb, then my ass will get real smart. Some say that my ass is genius! :lol:
norrinraad
06-11-2005, 01:23 PM
Some say that my ass is genius!
I don't doubt that for a second :P
Anyway, back on topic, the runour mill is heating up. Some actresses who are rumoured to be in the running are:
Lauren Graham: I have no clue who she is. I don't watch “Gilmore Girls”.
Evangeline Lilly: Now this is a much better choice than Micha Barton. She has proven on "Lost" that she has the acting chops and the physicality to do the role justice. What I like about her too is she's not a girly girl like so many Prime Time starlets. Add the fact that she's a Canadian and you can't go wrong.
Jennifer Connelly: What more needs to be said? She's definitely my dream pick.
Elizabeth Hurley: Umm, no.
Eliza Dushku: She was good in "Wrong Turn" but I don't see her as WW.
Kate Beckinsale: Too petite.
Catherine Zeta-Jones: She's a little long in the tooth at this point.
Sandra Bullock: If memory serves she was out of the running but now seems to be back in.
Rhona Mitra: I don't watch "Boston Legal".
Angelina Joli: Too associated with the Lara Croft films. Beside, I don't want a WW who the gossip rags can't get enough of.
Carmen Electra: The easiest way to kill the franchise.
Lindsey Lohan: Too Teen Pop Idol for my tastes.
Teri Hatcher: Not a terrible choice but she wouldn't be my first.
Eva Longoria: I never thought of her before. Love her on "Housewives" but too tiny.
Charlize Theron: Her name has been mentioned here many times in the past. I could live with her as WW.
As we all can see, not an unknown name in the bunch. I'm pretty sure Whedon is going to go with a "name" actress so my pick is still Jennifer Connelly.
cooger
06-12-2005, 01:41 AM
don't laugh....I've got one for ya. I'm am not at ALL a wrestling fan, but have you noticed "Victoria" form the WWE? She was once a fitness competitor, and when I first saw her I thought, wow, It's WW.
don't laugh....
Bwahahahaha!!! :lol:
kidcomix
06-13-2005, 01:44 AM
:roll: We can rehash this topic until we're blue in the face. Yes, we can go through the list of who Whedon should cast as WW. But a good script needs to be developed before any casting choices can be made on playing Diana.
terryasww
06-14-2005, 02:20 PM
Hello. I thought I would step in with a little note here. Wonder Woman is depicted in the comics as a 5'11" Amazon Princess. Not an Amazonian. She should not be South American, unless she looked to be Greek. She is of the hierarchy of the Greek gods of Olympian glory and akin to Hercules. The South American river is named for the fabled race of myth, not the other way around.
There are a host of actresses ranging from 6'2"” Monika Schnarre to 5'10" Catherine Bell who could play the role and be of the appropriate physical stature. Other noted actress within this range include...Terry Farrell.
Just watch the Season Four episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine "Our Man Bashir". Professor Honey Bare is a dead ringer for Diana Prince!
Sign the petition for Terry Farrell to be cast as the next Wonder Woman
http://www.geocities.com/terryasww
Yeah, Terry Farrell was a pretty good choice in her heyday. But "Our Man Bashir" was a few years back, and she's in her 40s now, so too old for the role of Diana. But she certainly would've had that iconic look similar to Lynda Carter.
sfer1
06-18-2005, 04:04 PM
Lynda Carter (at age 26) - Jennifer Connelly (at age 34)
http://img296.echo.cx/img296/5688/lcvsjc3pn.jpg
Jen doesn't look much, if any, older than Lynda when she played the role.
bedrock
06-21-2005, 07:31 PM
http://img278.echo.cx/img278/9117/wonderwoman2rw.jpg
http://img125.echo.cx/img125/2566/alanadelagarzamanip0it1no.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
My manip and choice for WW... Alana De La Garza. Hope you like it!
fadexero
06-23-2005, 03:55 AM
Too Many choices, Too Many. I like Jennifer Connely. But I like alot others too. I always liked the Lady who played the Dr. in Deep Space 9...you know, with the spots...Zax? I dunno. She looked like WW I always thought.
I just found this dame, Michelle Hicks (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0382920/maindetails)
kidcomix
06-26-2005, 02:29 PM
:) Pretty girl but I don't think Michelle is right for WW.
:) Pretty girl but I don't think Michelle is right for WW.
Yeah, I know nothing about her acting abilities, but she has the look IMO, what with the high cheekbones, big blue eyes and sliik black hair... plus, at 5'8 she's not too short, with lifts she could easily be 5'11
Znluvx
06-27-2005, 06:15 AM
Has anyone seen or heard of HELENA PAPARIZOU?
She is a 23 year-old, Swedish-born, Greek singer who just won the Eurovision Song Contest (and is apparently beloved by the Greece.)
She is absolutely stunning! http://www.helenapaparizou.com
If she can act, she definitely has my vote for WW.
Hurry up Whedon and get this girl in for a screen test.
What about HELENA PAPARIZOU?
Her bio says she's been studying acting as well as singing.
kidcomix
06-27-2005, 11:53 PM
:wink: HELENA Thy name is Wonder Woman!!!!
easy D
06-28-2005, 07:00 AM
I'm going to throw a name out, and you just honestly say what you think, ok?
Elizabeth Bogush (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0091940/)
I think she would make a better Wonder Woman than Helena Paparizou. At least better looking.
easy D
06-29-2005, 09:40 AM
Just redirecting this from the lost soul who put this exact same post on the General Discussion and Movie and TV Review boards.
If the role of Wonder Woman were to go to an unknown actress, what do you all think of current Miss Universe Natalie Glebova as getting it?
She's 23, 5'll'', dark brown hair and blue eyes. I think she resembles Lynda Carter a little.
You can see pics and videos of her at the official Miss Universe website, http://www.missuniverse.com/index2.html . Where it says 'Select a Contestant' choose 'Canada.'
Now that Luca's got this out, I doubt we're gonna hear from him, her, it, whatever
WonderWomanGoddess
07-02-2005, 03:07 PM
Miss Universe does have a very beautiful, ww-esque face, but other than that, nada. Mostly she lacks poise and grace, but also, read and or watch her interveiws...lacking some brain cells there too. Plus, I just don't like her body for WW. The legs and height are there, but think she's too skinny.
SPYDERSPICK
07-08-2005, 12:59 AM
Dude don't come at Shakira. Your just mad because she is the biggest latin artist out and has mad money that you don't have stop being a b.i.t.c.h. come at your mother that way 8)
SPYDERSPICK
07-08-2005, 01:06 AM
Shakira would make a great WW she just has to go brunett again
sfer1
07-09-2005, 01:03 PM
Shakira would make a great WW she just has to go brunett again
I can only hope you're joking.
1. Shakira's not an actress.
2. She doesn't have a good body. She has small boobs and a fat ass.
3. She's way too short (5'2").
Jennifer Connelly would make a great WW.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/dark_water/jennifer_connelly/dark9.jpg
She is 100 times more beautiful, looks the part 100 times more and can act.
FireStormTrooper
07-10-2005, 10:01 AM
Jennifer Connelly is too old to support a potential film franchise like WONDER WOMAN. Plus, she's already done her c2f part with HULK.
Joss Whedon has gone on record as saying that they'll be looking to go a bit younger than expected, but not too young. Hopefully that means stay away from both teens and thirtysomethings.
(My) Ideal Wonder Woman
Age (pre-production): 22 - 25 years old. She should still be in her 20s for filming the sequel.
Height: 5'9" - 6'1". Heels alone do not an Amazon make.
Weight: 120 lbs - 140 lbs. Depends on how toned and athletic she is.
Ethnicity: Vaguely passable for Greek. i.e. no Beyonce, no J-Lo, no Ming-na.
Ethnicity: Vaguely passable for Greek. i.e. no Beyonce, no J-Lo, no Ming-na.
How do you know that someone at WB won't make the argument that: "have you ever seen any real Greeks before?" They might say that there are plenty of Black, Hispanic or Asian Greeks there when they were last in Mykonos.
Of course, they might've all been tourists or someone on a student exchange program practising their Greek, but someone at WB might still think they were the real deal!
The point is that I'm sure WB could justify any casting decision they make. If they cast Mariah Carey then their announcement would probably go something like this:
We are proud to announce that Mariah Carey has been cast in the role of Wonder Woman. We are extremely pleased and excited with the casting choice and feel that Mariah would be the perfect actress to carry the Amazonian torch into the 21st century. We wanted someone who was very strong and athletic, as well as a bit sexier and more exotic than we're used to seeing. Mariah embodies all those qualities. We are certain that when fans see her on the silver screen, they will see in her the spirit of the Wonder Woman they have always known.
:roll:
The Xenos
07-10-2005, 12:10 PM
Shakira would make a great WW she just has to go brunett again
I can only hope you're joking.
1. Shakira's not an actress.
2. She doesn't have a good body. She has small boobs and a fat ass.
3. She's way too short (5'2").
Jennifer Connelly would make a great WW.
...
She is 100 times more beautiful, looks the part 100 times more and can act.
WHile I'm with you on Connnely and against Shakira, what's with you saying Shakira's got small boobs and a fat ass? Have you ever been around real women, esepcially Latin or even just non-white women? That "fat ass" sure looks fine to me. Plus not everyone needs massive mammary glands. Though for Diana I would say maybe a bit larger chest than Shakira's would be good.
-Xenos
sfer1
07-10-2005, 01:01 PM
Jennifer Connelly is too old to support a potential film franchise like WONDER WOMAN. Plus, she's already done her c2f part with HULK.
Joss Whedon has gone on record as saying that they'll be looking to go a bit younger than expected, but not too young. Hopefully that means stay away from both teens and thirtysomethings.
The Hulk is a Marvel comic and Jennifer Connelly played a secondary role in that forgettable movie. There's no reason she couldn't play Wonder Woman. Specially considering that she is Wonder Woman. She looks the part more than anyone else.
Joss hadn't even read the comic book when he said he wanted an actress in her early twenties. The character isn't supposed to look so young. Hopefully, he has realized it by now.
Jennifer looks several years younger than her age. She doesn't look old and she hasn't aged significantly in the last 9 years.
1996:
http://esc11.midphase.com/~jordana/jenc/jenc%20(7).jpg
2005:
http://silver-stardust.org/jenniferconnelly/images/films/darkwater/onsetdarkwater040.jpg
http://silver-stardust.org/jenniferconnelly/images/films/darkwater/onsetdarkwater017.jpg
http://silver-stardust.org/jenniferconnelly/images/films/darkwater/onsetdarkwater026.jpg
Lynda Carter (at age 26) - Jennifer Connelly (at age 34)
http://img296.echo.cx/img296/5688/lcvsjc3pn.jpg
Jen doesn't look much, if any, older than Lynda when she played the role.
WW fans don't think Jennifer is too old. They want her or Monica Bellucci (who's 6 years older) to play the role.
Numbers:
The Superhero Hype! Boards poll:
1. Jennifer Connelly 16.54%
2. Monica Bellucci 12.20%
The Planet poll:
1. Jennifer Connelly 30.77%
2. Monica Bellucci 15.38%
IMDb poll:
1. Jennifer Connelly 16.4%
sfer1
07-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Shakira would make a great WW she just has to go brunett again
I can only hope you're joking.
1. Shakira's not an actress.
2. She doesn't have a good body. She has small boobs and a fat ass.
3. She's way too short (5'2").
Jennifer Connelly would make a great WW.
...
She is 100 times more beautiful, looks the part 100 times more and can act.
WHile I'm with you on Connnely and against Shakira, what's with you saying Shakira's got small boobs and a fat ass? Have you ever been around real women, esepcially Latin or even just non-white women? That "fat ass" sure looks fine to me. Plus not everyone needs massive mammary glands. Though for Diana I would say maybe a bit larger chest than Shakira's would be good.
-Xenos
Americans have a fetish for fat asses. J-Lo made a career out of hers.
I'm from Argentina (I'm latin) and I think Shakira has a fat ass. And she even sings about her boobs being small: "Suerte que mis pechos sean pequeños y no los confundas con montañas."
The Xenos
07-10-2005, 01:15 PM
I shall shut up now. I guess Latin in America and Latin America and South America have different statuses on fat asses. Stupid Sir Mix Alot.
Actually to be honest, personally, I'm a middle of the road guy on both rears and chests. Though certainly There are some fine examples of either end on both. Of course, there's another nice pair on girls that I fall for, a nice pair of beautiful eyes.
-Xenos
The Xenos
07-10-2005, 01:23 PM
[quote="FireStormTrooper"]
WW fans don't think Jennifer is too old. They want her or Monica Bellucci (who's 6 years older) to play the role.
Numbers:
The Superhero Hype! Boards poll:
1. Jennifer Connelly 16.54%
2. Monica Bellucci 12.20%
The Planet poll:
1. Jennifer Connelly 30.77%
2. Monica Bellucci 15.38%
IMDb poll:
1. Jennifer Connelly 16.4%
Now I'd be perfectly fine with either of those beuties. I acutally favor Bellucci more as she is Italian. Close enough to Greek for me. Bad enough we got Garner for Elektra. Not to mention Colin Farrel as Alexander or Brad Pitt as Achilles. Damn, did ANYONE in Troy look Greek or Trojan/Turkish?!
Yet Wonder Woman is more than jstu a character, she's a big studio and marketing cornerstone. So likley they want someone younger. I am a bit disapointed Whedon is thinking this too. She was made of clay, doesn't mean she was molded itno the 20 year old ideal age of America. I hope too Joss realizes this.
Then agian there's always the change of an unkown. Superman went that way. Though Batman went with a fan favorite. Then again does anyone know if Connelly or Bellucci would be interested?
-Xenos
sfer1
07-10-2005, 02:19 PM
Jennifer isn't one of those actresses who are willing to play any crappy role in any crappy movie as long as they get their 10-20 millions. She doesn't do stupid films.
If the script were good, I think she would be interested.
kidcomix
07-11-2005, 06:51 PM
Jennifer isn't one of those actresses who are willing to play any crappy role in any crappy movie as long as they get their 10-20 millions. She doesn't do stupid films.
If the script were good, I think she would be interested.
:wink: Here here sfer1. A good script makes the movie not breast implants and bad acting. All I can say is NO MORE CATWOMAN!!!
I think they should go with that girl from WB'S Sumerland the brunett who's tall and i heard she was an olympic volleyball player first she has the size and look physically.
sfer1
07-31-2005, 03:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/stanleynugget/WW.jpg
kidcomix
08-01-2005, 01:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/stanleynugget/WW.jpg
:lol: Nice manip of Jennifer Connelly sfer. I like the use of the Greek key design on the bracelets and the use of the eagle. This looks like a possible costume that could be used in the WW film.
Very good manip sfer. If you did it, you should definatly submit it to the DCG (that is, if you haven't already).
However, as good as the manip may be, it makes me realize a few things about the movie they need to make sure of. For one, whoever the actress is will need to buff up quite a bit. Not necessarily look like a female weight lifter, but she'll need some muscles. Also, I've always been skeptical about translating the comic book costume straight into the movie (or even mostly, like in that picture). I just think the look of WW's costume in real life is just too campy and not taken seriously. It's like how Batman wears blue in the comics sometimes, and it looks fine, but in real life you get Adam West's Batman. I like the idea of having it very greek looking, and still with the basic color scheme though.
Very good manip sfer. If you did it, you should definatly submit it to the DCG (that is, if you haven't already).
However, as good as the manip may be, it makes me realize a few things about the movie they need to make sure of. For one, whoever the actress is will need to buff up quite a bit. Not necessarily look like a female weight lifter, but she'll need some muscles. Also, I've always been skeptical about translating the comic book costume straight into the movie (or even mostly, like in that picture). I just think the look of WW's costume in real life is just too campy and not taken seriously. It's like how Batman wears blue in the comics sometimes, and it looks fine, but in real life you get Adam West's Batman. I like the idea of having it very greek looking, and still with the basic color scheme though.
Part of why Adam West's Batman looked camp though was the material it was made out of as well as West's lack of muscles. Wonder Woman's costume is such that most of her body muscles will be uncovered anyway (you'd be able to see it in the flesh without spandex over it). If the actress who does play her is very superbly conditioned and athletic, and has the confidence to wear the costume then I don't think it will look overly camp. After all, Superman's costume could look camp, but once viewers get past the suit for the first 5 or 10 mins, they just accept it.
What I definitely DON'T want to see is an X-Men style black leather costume or even an Elektra style costume with pants etc. Wonder Woman's classic look is this virtual bikini/swimsuit-looking thing in red, blue and gold.
DarrenJSeeley
08-01-2005, 04:40 PM
" I’m looking for somebody statuesque, regal, beautiful, who can really act and do a lot of stunts with no elbow or knee pads. I’m asking a lot. So if I happen to find all those qualities in somebody who does not quite meet my height requirement, I will be casting some really short love interest. The height is definitely a part of the package."
-Joss Whedon in the interview from In Focus
And, as mentioned, someone in thier 20's.
While some of you know I threw in the name of Keira Knightley earlier in this and other threads - she could bulk up, and she can act, and she has been in the Pirates films, so she's still my number one pick.
But that age thing is a problem. If you are looking for height and a *good* actress in her 20's that's 5'9 or above, good luck.
Now...there is one name that I can think of that would foot the bill.
Rosario Dawson -Gail from Sin City.
Rosario is a good actress, you all seen Sin, so you know she's got the bod and can do some action. But she's also 5'8, mid 20's. Most other actresses I can think of that are taller are in 30's on up.
sfer1
08-01-2005, 06:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/stanleynugget/WW.jpg
A guy called Nugget did it. Best Wonder Woman manip ever!!!
When Joss Whedon signed on, he said that he was a "Marvel Boy" and admitted that he had never read 'Wonder Woman'. And he made that comment about wanting an actress in her early twenties shortly after. Considering he was busy with 'Serenity', I'm pretty sure that he didn't have the time to read the comic book and that he had no idea how old the character is supposed to look when he made that comment.
After reading the interview from In Focus, what worries me is that he still doesn't seem to know anything about Wonder Woman.
http://www.infocusmag.com/05augustseptember/whedonuncut.htm
One of the moderators of the WW board on The Planet shares my concern. He wrote: "It sounds like he is writing a movie based on something he knows nothing about... which would be fine if he would just sit down and do some research and immerse himself in the comics and stuff... but if he is not gonna do that or if he is gonna disregard whatever research he DOES do then basically he is pissing all over a sixty year legacy."
DarrenJSeeley
08-01-2005, 09:34 PM
You should go to the "Film/TV" board; I found some general contradictions in what he says in his interview. I do, however, agree with what he said about arbitration and the tough breaks writers sometimes get, but Whedon puts his foot in his mouth more than once.
Other two possibilities for casting:
actress/model Shalom Harlow (she's 5'11).
Naureen Zaim (Wedding Crashers) looks hot, but she's 5'7. In her mid 20's though.
thestuntman
08-12-2005, 01:25 AM
i saw naureen zaim at a hollywood party once and believe me, she could do it. she's definitely statuesque, and seems tough. in fact, she did stunts for several movies including spiderman 2, your avatar ironically. so she's got my vote!
KLA 1
08-20-2005, 12:35 AM
Who is Welshcat's avitar? She could be WW with her hair darkened.
DarrenJSeeley
08-20-2005, 05:27 AM
i saw naureen zaim at a hollywood party once and believe me, she could do it. she's definitely statuesque, and seems tough. in fact, she did stunts for several movies including spiderman 2, your avatar ironically. so she's got my vote!
There was a recent ish of 'Stuff' that featured the ladies of the Wedding Crashers film.
Now, on her website (http://www.naureenzaim.com) she lists these as 'special abilities" her hobbies/whatnot.
Professional Boxer,
College Tennis & Softball
Player, National Billiards
Competitor, Stuntwoman,
Motorcycle, League Bowling,
Ice/ Roller Skating, Skiing,
Welding, Glassblowing,
Sculpting, Painting, Drawing,
Skydiving, Swing Dancing,
Drums and Texas Hold 'em
Adding to the fact that she could also be considered an 'unknown' and could easily sign on for three pictures...but if she isn't Wonder Woman, she's darn well gonna be in a C2F somewhere down the line, that much I'm sure of.
BTW, my current avatar is the Nick Hammond Spidey. Look close, you'll see the difference.
Who is Welshcat's avitar? She could be WW with her hair darkened.
That's Maria Sharapova - very amazonian in stature, beautiful and statuesque, and standing officially in the WTA stats at 6ft, but actually now 6'2". But she's really more Supergirl material if you look here:
http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=17933&f_ssn=&f_fooble=1
DarrenJSeeley
08-20-2005, 06:03 PM
if she isn't Wonder Woman, she's darn well gonna be in a C2F somewhere down the line, that much I'm sure of.
Not counting stunts on Spidey 2.
The more I checked out Zaim's bare bones Website (this must have been put up recently) the more I'm crossing my fingers that she either auditions for the part of Diana or gets a call from Joss Whedon and/or Joel Silver.
thestuntman
09-02-2005, 07:26 PM
i check naureen's site once a month or so, and she has new headshots that definitely make me think she's the one. the red shirt pic (which has a big version on imdb), and then the b/w with glasses on. she could play both sides of di. all right.
www.naureenzaim.com
http://imdb.com/name/nm1779787/
DarrenJSeeley
09-04-2005, 10:23 PM
thestuntmanwrote:
the red shirt pic (which has a big version on imdb), and then the b/w with glasses on. she could play both sides of di
Once a month, eh? These photo shots just magically appear?
:D 8)
Maybe her agent/publicity peeps got wind of Whedon's preferred "requirements", and brung it to her attention. I also think Whedon might strongly go with an unknown/ rising actress, and then have her flanked by seasoned actors. This sort of casting has worked in the past, with other films, and there's no reason why it won't work now. It also helps that the newer the actor/actress, the more chances are good for that actor/actress to appear in sequels should there be any.
I do hope her name crops up in the casting process, that would be awesome. Yes, there's a part of me that likes Keira Knightley, part of me that likes Rosario Dawson. Good actresses, those two. But I'd be disappointed if Zaim's lasso wasn't thrown into the ring, so to speak.
So overall has the production and w/e they call it pick an actress yet? :?
I really cant think up of a perfect person for the role, just people who slightly would work.The actress who plays Kate from Lost is my chioce but I kno she wont be chosen.
Keira Knightley would be an unusual choice IMO, but from looking at the Domino trailers she is a really good action star...not cut out to be WW though..
The manips with Jennifer Connelly are very realistic for me and I can see her as WW, so she's the closest of who should be the actress chosen. But I still hear things about the director wanting a younger actress...well I dont know anyone in thier early 20's for the role...hmm.
FireStormTrooper
10-03-2005, 12:01 PM
Just saw the movie SERENITY, directed by Joss Whedon. Never watched the FIREFLY sci-fi tv series it was based on so a lot of the story's plot points were lost on me. But one of the actresses, Morena Baccarin, stood out to me. She looks like a combination of young Lynda Carter in WONDER WOMAN and young Terri Hatcher in LOIS & CLARK. Beautiful, athletic and at least a decent enough actor for the role. And, as she's basically unknown, young (20something), and already has a working relationship with Whedon, I assume she has to be in the running as she meets his initial criteria for the role.
Morena Baccarin as Wonder Woman? It could work, imho.
agent orange
10-06-2005, 12:28 PM
Any news about Satu Rautaharju? I heard that she was up for the role at one point. She seems as an interesting choice: strong, energetic, and a little edgy. Some say a little too punk, but I tnink that might work. It might do for Wonder Woman, if handled properly, what was done for Batman in the 80's. The Batman films were the make over of the century, and seperated the character from the old "Batman and Robin" days.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/weirdeastcoastkid/Satu/satu-rautaharju-wonder-woman-07.jpgBesides, aren't you afraid that they'll cast some lingerie model. Adriana Lima might look great, but if she can't act, and can't carry the film, it could turn into a fiasco.
Any news about Satu Rautaharju? I heard that she was up for the role at one point. She seems as an interesting choice: strong, energetic, and a little edgy. Some say a little too punk, but I tnink that might work. It might do for Wonder Woman, if handled properly, what was done for Batman in the 80's. The Batman films were the make over of the century, and seperated the character from the old "Batman and Robin" days.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/weirdeastcoastkid/Satu/satu-rautaharju-wonder-woman-07.jpgBesides, aren't you afraid that they'll cast some lingerie model. Adriana Lima might look great, but if she can't act, and can't carry the film, it could turn into a fiasco.
Whoever she is, she looks like a student who's gone out clubbing in that photo. I would rather have someone more regal and more classical looking.
agent orange
10-08-2005, 01:04 PM
Now you have to admit that there's a certain simularity.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b348/robotsexmaniac/WonderWoman/wonderwoman.jpg
:D Very nice pic. :lol: :shock:
Yea there is a bit of a simularity but not that much for the motion picture to choose as a final desicion.
agent orange
10-10-2005, 12:18 PM
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/3321/saturautaharjubb37sb.jpghttp://img438.imageshack.us/img438/9617/gothamazon6oi3sw.jpg
At 1st I wasn't sold on Satu, but the more I compared her with the current Wonder Woman art work, the more I began to think that she would be a great chioce. She grows on you.
The "Wonder Woman flying" is a great pic. I think that the artist is Mark S Miller.
easy D
10-10-2005, 03:56 PM
Well, I'm thinking this might not be a popular choice, but I've found a fitness model who I think might fit nicely into the role of Wonder Woman. Her name is Linda Overheu, a fitness model who is trying to break into acting. Here is a picture of her from the Lingerie Bowl...
http://www.lingeriebowl.com/Dallas-Player-Bios/images/Linda-Overheu-Bio-Photo.gif
Now it is kinda hard trying to find pictures of her on the internet (especially that picture of her on an issue of Muscle & Fitness Magazine), but she looks like she can fit the part (just dye her hair black), don't know if she can act, though.
Agent Orange's pics start making me think that WW is a gothic character. But I never read an issue of her (Marvel fan...) so I guess I'm not fully known of her personality. Good castings but non are on that "young age" thing going on with the casting they want to choose.
Well, I'm thinking this might not be a popular choice, but I've found a fitness model who I think might fit nicely into the role of Wonder Woman. Her name is Linda Overheu, a fitness model who is trying to break into acting. Here is a picture of her from the Lingerie Bowl...
http://www.lingeriebowl.com/Dallas-Player-Bios/images/Linda-Overheu-Bio-Photo.gif
Now it is kinda hard trying to find pictures of her on the internet (especially that picture of her on an issue of Muscle & Fitness Magazine), but she looks like she can fit the part (just dye her hair black), don't know if she can act, though.
Do women really dress like that on the Bowls in the US? :D
agent orange
10-11-2005, 01:36 AM
Agent Orange's pics start making me think that WW is a gothic character. But I never read an issue of her (Marvel fan...) so I guess I'm not fully known of her personality. Good castings but non are on that "young age" thing going on with the casting they want to choose.
There could be a gothic angle. Remember that Wonder Woman is 5000 yrs old. Thats a lot of history thats never been explored in the comic. Fertile ground for stories.
Znluvx
10-28-2005, 03:28 PM
Saw an interview with Catherine Zeta-Jones, in a local NY paper, while she was making the rounds promoting her new Zorro movie:
Q: Would you want to play a character like Wonder Woman?
CZJ: Not really. I like people who you can believe and not have those stupid powers. Zorro, you know, he's just a guy, working for the people.
Saw an interview with Catherine Zeta-Jones, in a local NY paper, while she was making the rounds promoting her new Zorro movie:
Q: Would you want to play a character like Wonder Woman?
CZJ: Not really. I like people who you can believe and not have those stupid powers. Zorro, you know, he's just a guy, working for the people.
I don't think we'd want CZJ as WW anyway. Not unless you want her to look like Wonder Soccer Mom. That maternal look just won't go with Wonder Woman.
That would be a wierd casting....Just saying.
I still like the gothic WW idea...But I kno there's no chance of that hitting the big screen.
norrinraad
12-20-2005, 11:56 AM
So, in a recent interview with the Toronto Star, Whedon was asked about his casting choice for WW. It was brought to his attention that, on his commentary track for the Serenity DVD, he regretted having to cut back Morena Baccarin's onscreen time as Inara. However, he added that he would soon be "making it up to her". When asked about this, Whedon responded that the script for WW was almost completed and that Baccarin is "spectacularly lovely and very talented, and has a lot of the qualities I'm looking for". However, of course he wouldn't commit one way or another.
If he does go and cast Baccarin I for one would be quite satisfied. She is indeed a beautiful woman and, at 26, about the right age. She's only 5'7" but if Peter Jackson could convincingly make Elijah Wood look like a hobbit, I don't see it being that big a deal. This is as good a casting choice as I've yet heard.
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FireStormTrooper
12-23-2005, 09:08 AM
Totally digging the Morena Baccarin idea. She's got to be the frontrunner for the role, as she meets all the requirements.
1. Unknown to the general public (had a minor role in SERENITY)
2. Beautiful (looks like a cross between a young Lynda Carter and a young Terri Hatcher)
3. Young (26 looking like 21)
4. Familiar with the director (worked extensively with Joss Whedon in the FIREFLY series and SERENITY)
imported_Thom
12-26-2005, 05:16 AM
Haha...
Not a big WW fan myself, but I've been doing a lot of Serenity-related thinkin' and it crossed my own mind that Morena would make a good Wonder Woman. Good to see it's an option on the table.
She's a bit small in stature, but she's got a personality that could carry the role.
Are there any manips of her as WW? Wonder how she looks in the costume, and I didn't see Serenity yet so I don't know how she looks in action scenes.
Znluvx
12-28-2005, 04:13 PM
Just saw this story: article (http://www.egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/kate-beckinsale/)
Kate Beckinsale as WW
http://www.egotastic.com/media/pictures/0512/kate-beckinsale-wonder-woman.jpg
Znluvx
01-06-2006, 10:32 PM
Kinda surprised no one commented on the Kate Beckinsale story and pics because she looks GOOD!
go figure
rainbeaux
01-07-2006, 12:42 AM
:P I just saw Bloodrayne: The Movie and yes its based on the popular videogame and it was tolerable for the limited budget that it had. I personally liked it even if the acting had a bit of camp to it. But let me get to the point before I start rambling on. I looked at Kristianna Loken (T3) and thought to myself, you know with dark hair and the right make-up she would make a great Diana/Wonder Woman. She's athletic. She's about the right height and her acting skills are quite good. All in all I would consider her as a candidate for casting.
Kinda surprised no one commented on the Kate Beckinsale story and pics because she looks GOOD!
go figure
I wasn't so amazed...I didn't see much on a conversation starting on it.
Jakerman
01-07-2006, 08:41 PM
The Beckinsale pic is a red X to me. :lol:
Znluvx
01-07-2006, 10:43 PM
Kinda surprised no one commented on the Kate Beckinsale story and pics because she looks GOOD!
go figure
I wasn't so amazed...I didn't see much on a conversation starting on it.
really? seeing as she's a HOT actress, interested in the role of WW, and who went to the lengths of putting on the costume (which in my opinion was premeditated) thus giving us fanboys the hint of what might could be.
yeah, on second thought doesn't even seem worth mentioning on a WONDER WOMAN board. Guess I'll just have to read through some of your posts to get a better grasp of conversation inducing topics :D
Check the article link Jakerman.
Kinda surprised no one commented on the Kate Beckinsale story and pics because she looks GOOD!
go figure
I wasn't so amazed...I didn't see much on a conversation starting on it.
really? seeing as she's a HOT actress, interested in the role of WW, and who went to the lengths of putting on the costume (which in my opinion was premeditated) thus giving us fanboys the hint of what might could be.
yeah, on second thought doesn't even seem worth mentioning on a WONDER WOMAN board. Guess I'll just have to read through some of your posts to get a better grasp of conversation inducing topics :D
Check the article link Jakerman.
Ooooooh!!! Harsh!!! :lol:
I'll say one thing. I don't think we'll be see Beckinsale in the costume on the big screen anytime soon. There ya go. :P
Znluvx
01-08-2006, 06:37 AM
No harm, no foul bearpod :lol:
Jakerman
01-08-2006, 07:38 AM
:lol: Did she make the costume her self because that thing is ridiculous. Anyway, I think Beckinsale would make a good Wonder Woman, she looks good, she's done action movies before, and she can act. Probably one of the top candidates if I was casting.
FireStormTrooper
01-08-2006, 11:43 AM
I think she may be considered ... too old and too famous for the role.
Look at the other recent c2f franchises that succeeded and who they cast as the lead
Batman = Christian Bale
Spider-Man = Tobey Maguire
Superman = Brandon Routh (ok, this hasn't succeeded yet ... but look at the late Christopher Reeve ... total unknown).
Hellboy = Ron Perlman
The Thing = Michael Chikliss (I'm assuming that FF is considered a success)
Wolverine = Hugh Jackman
All relative unknowns.
Then look at
DareDevil = Ben Affleck
CatWoman = Halle Berry
Both stars.
Find an unknown and cast her. That chick from SERENITY gets my vote.
I just happened across this gal, Cobie Smulders http://imdb.com/name/nm1130627/ . At 5'9, she's a decent height for WW, plus she's young but not TOO young, and IMO looks the part quite well.
I just happened across this gal, Cobie Smulders http://imdb.com/name/nm1130627/ . At 5'9, she's a decent height for WW, plus she's young but not TOO young, and IMO looks the part quite well.
She doesn't really scream out "Wonder Woman!" to me. She has somewhat of the young WW look but not really what I would want to see as the final decision for who plays WW.
Here's a pic.
http://www.peeperstv.com/pictures/380637/cobiesmulders.jpg
She doesn't really scream out "Wonder Woman!" to me. She has somewhat of the young WW look but not really what I would want to see as the final decision for who plays WW.
I think I'm inclined to her a bit because I think she vaguely resembles Jennifer Connelly, my #1 choice for WW. Plus, she's about the age I'm thinking Joss Whedon will be going for in his WW movie.
WonderWomanGoddess
01-25-2006, 02:13 PM
I like Zac's choice up there, she has a classic beauty.
Check out this chick- her name is Sheetal Sheth. Look at her beautiful eyes and how they pop. WW's eyes are so important to me. She also has a background in dance, she loves extreme sports, and just read her bio. She IS WW in terms of accomplishments for her age, and her philanthropist efforts.. And she's a Jainist! it's just so sweeeeet. She's in the Febuary issue of maxim too, so check that out if you can.
http://www.aimpress.com/sheetal.jpg
http://www.sheetalsheth.com/
http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/pictures_and_bio/1175/SheetalSheth.girl
esp check the maxim, in one of those she really looks like WW to me.
FireStormTrooper
01-26-2006, 09:59 PM
Sheetal Sheth ... will never be Wonder Woman. Yes, she is breathtakingly beautiful, young and athletic. Yes, she has at least some degree of acting talent.
But she is Indian or South Asian. As in, definitely Not White. Or at least could never be mistaken for white by the viewing public in America. Which is mostly white.
And Wonder Woman is white. Or at least always will be while the majority of her fan base is. The studio heads at Warner (and to be fair, any other studio) will always go with the safest bet when risking millions of dollars.
On the one hand, I'd be proud to see a fellow Indian make it to the big screen in an iconic role. But it's precisely because the role is so iconic that this casting suggestion is far too much of a stretch. That's not the way it should be, but that's the way it is.
And what does her being a Jainist have to do with anything? In fact, why does any actor's personal religiousness be a factor in any role (other than a purely religious role, i.e. PASSION OF THE CHRIST or something)? They're actors. They pretend to be other things for a living.
On the other hand, I'd never buy her as Wonder Woman. Nor Beyonce or Jennifer Lopez. Too much of a distraction. There should be more heroes and heroines of color. But they may as well be more original creations, instead of "a brown Wonder Woman" or "a black Superman".
Long story short on Ms. Sheetal Sheth: Beautiful and talented, but will never be Wonder Woman.
WonderWomanGoddess
01-27-2006, 11:29 AM
I don't know about her acting talent, because I've never seen her in anything. Also, don't know how tall she is.
I actually wouldn't have been able to guess her ethnicity based on her appearance, it's just her name and reading her bio that gives it away. She's wearing blue contacts even in several pics, including the first one I saw her in. And an accent lwould be great for an WW origin story, for the first movie, and then she gets progressively better as the franchise moves on. Like the Perez run, where she starts out so cultrally uncomfortable, has a heavy accent, and then eventually (current comics) she's a language expert, and able to pick any up quickly, even alien!
I think Sheetal would be good for this, because she is an American and I presume has perfectly american pronunciation, but since I saw some of her roles were Indian, I know she can also do accents- If she's a good actress I think she can come up with a good Amazon accent.
Plus, all ethnicities seem to have 'dark' and 'light'. Like Dutch, or Greek, there are dark greeks and light greeks, and dark dutch and light, and boy I mean light dutch. It's the same with all, with in each there is dark and light poles, if you will and a whole bunch who fall in between the spectrum. I would buy her as a darker (although she's not even that 'dark' to me) Greecian WW. I would think anything from olive skin to porcelian white would be fine and not 'distracting' although I do agree she is too iconic to go with a radical change and cast Zhang Ziyi or Beyonce.
WW is clay, not 'white' and Greek kinda, also not 'white'. There are many Dark haired blue eyed, fair skinned Greek women. Fan base, of comics, who know her origin and many back stories know this. movie going audiences who know her from the TV show expect, 'white'. And a *@$#&% invisble jet, argh! I strongly suspect whedon wanting the jet is highly influenced by above, as in the people who want an invisible jet toy to sell.
Look at Elektra- her and WW could swap costumes and trade places for a while in terms of their Greek looks (except Elektra misses the blue eyes) and who did they cast for her, Garner? Most fans and myself were esp initially quite dissapointed, as she does not look greek at all, nor have the 'elektra' vibe to me. And so 'white' casting worked out great for that box office blockbuster huh? or we could blame the opposite, the black kingpin, but really it honestly boils down to a shitty movie.
Sheetal started off being raised Catholic, then was very involved with Hinduism, and I mean active in her religion, and she is now a Jain, which is an offshoot of Hinduism but is in my opinion, the most genuine and compassionate religion in the world today. And close to WW's ideology I might add.
This is important, because I have always said WW must have grace, and compassion. I believe the actress must have those qualities, because they can't be 'acted.' You can have an actress who has them play a part that doesn't but I don't believe the reverse is true. Hence, no J Lo, or many of the other actresses that have been suggested. And for heaven's sake no Julie Strain, lol.
I didn't actually think of her race at all until you mentioned it. And If I were casting, I'd call her in- I haven't seen her act, I dont' know how tall she is or what her body would look like in the costume, but I'd call her in and just like a whole bunch of other ones, who seemed to embody the spirit and the look of WW to me.
You might be right, however, that studio exects might not go for it. I'd say even you probably are right, but these are the same morons trying to make her 'real' instead of myth by bringing back a goddamn alien technology, or I guess they'll go old school and say amazon technology invisible plane, that WW is clearly visible through! argh. Maybe they'll even have the old 'purple ray' of healing. that was great too.
She doesn't really scream out "Wonder Woman!" to me. She has somewhat of the young WW look but not really what I would want to see as the final decision for who plays WW.
I think I'm inclined to her a bit because I think she vaguely resembles Jennifer Connelly, my #1 choice for WW. Plus, she's about the age I'm thinking Joss Whedon will be going for in his WW movie.
Well she's not bad. I dunno. There is a slight Connelly resemblance, but there was also a slight cross between a young Terry Farrell and at times Lynda Carter. But there's something a bit too young about her - like when Terry Farrell was still only about 20. She didn't look quite as striking or iconic as she did when she was a bit older, by the time of Deep Space Nine. Maybe she might eventually work. It's hard to tell.
rainbeaux
03-15-2006, 11:23 AM
Physically she has an exotic look that could pass for WW but I think Hollywood producers are going to pressure Whedon to go for a more established and recognizable actress. Sheetal made be hidden out of the casting call. Charisma Carpenter, Buffy's Cordelia, and her reps are promoting her for the Whedon project. Ugggh. I hope she doesn't get it, she's just not right for the role.
Physically she has an exotic look that could pass for WW but I think Hollywood producers are going to pressure Whedon to go for a more established and recognizable actress. Sheetal made be hidden out of the casting call. Charisma Carpenter, Buffy's Cordelia, and her reps are promoting her for the Whedon project. Ugggh. I hope she doesn't get it, she's just not right for the role.
Agreed. I'd hate it if Charisma Carpenter got the role. She's not so young now either, and was looking increasingly maternal in her last few days on Angel.
Everyone would just see Cordelia - not Wonder Woman. It's like that series, "Bones" - although it's a sort of CSI meets X-Files, does anyone actually see David Boreanaz as anything other than Angel in there?
I want a fresh face for Wonder Woman - not a distraction. Someone who would take your breath away, not feel it leaving like a breath of stale air (which would be the case with Carpenter).
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