View Full Version : Vinnie Signed Up For X3,4 & 5 ??
JonnyFreeze
06-08-2005, 03:24 PM
found this over at www.vinniejones.co.uk
Added: 27th april 2005
X men 3!
Vinnie is going to film X Men 3 in America in August, and 4 & 5 if they make them. He plays the character Juggernaut.
Jakerman
06-08-2005, 04:01 PM
I wouldn't think there would be a 4 and 5 anytime soon unless X3 is a HUGE blockbuster.
Isnt 4 and 5 going to be called Magneto and Wolverine? or r those movies prequels to the first xmen movies...
easy D
06-08-2005, 05:57 PM
No, I believe that the Wolverine and Magneto movies would be spin offs, like Elektra was to Daredevil.
And I believe that Fox and Marvel have more X-Men movies planned for more flicks.
And shouldn't this be in the X-Men thread?
Jakerman
06-08-2005, 07:15 PM
Magneto in his own movie, like Blade in his own tv show, is a stupid idea. And yes this probably should be in the X-Men thread but o well.
There is a forum dedicated to X-Men related posts. Please post there rather than in the general section.
Thank you.
JonnyFreeze
06-09-2005, 05:55 AM
moan moan moan moan moan
imported_Thom
06-09-2005, 11:53 AM
Actually I think you're the one moaning. Welshy was just trying to point you in the right direction.
I'm movin' this to Xavier's Academy now.
JonnyFreeze
06-09-2005, 04:12 PM
^^^ moan moan moan moan moan
Essex
06-10-2005, 09:50 AM
Welshcat made a simple statement that makes perfect sense and is very true. If you'd like to persist in acting like a baby, I, or another moderator, will be happy to just delete any more childish posts. You're being needlessly rude and nobody here appreciates a jackass.
See ya later.
easy D
06-10-2005, 10:09 AM
Haw, haw!
JonnyFreeze got in trouble, JonnyFreeze got in trouble. Nah, nah, na-nah, nahhh!
:P
JonnyFreeze
06-10-2005, 03:56 PM
General Discussion
Talk about comic and movie news here.
which is exactly what i did
Essex
06-10-2005, 07:18 PM
Sigh...yes, yes it is. But apparently you didn't notice the dozen movie-specific forums below the other ones. Fine, that's cool, it happens. What isn't cool is you acting like a child when somebody asks you to please post in the appropriate forum. What isn't cool is doing the exact same thing when somebody else reaffirms that fact.
I don't understand exactly why you're bent out of shape over this and why you're being a jerk. Were your feelings hurt when Welshcat asked you to post in another forum? Whatever it is, get over it, because there's no need to act the way you're acting.
D.K.HOOD
06-10-2005, 08:44 PM
I don't understand exactly why you're bent out of shape over this and why you're being a jerk. Were your feelings hurt when Welshcat asked you to post in another forum? Whatever it is, get over it, because there's no need to act the way you're acting.
You've been on the net long enough to know it's futile trying to figure out why people react the way they do when pointing them in the right direction. At least he's not as irritating as what you might get at AICN. Hopefully he can take a moment and reflect on what's happened here (like others have in the past).
Soccerdude
06-10-2005, 09:12 PM
wow...
i'd comment,but i won't.
I doubt vinnie Jones is signed on...I doubt they will produce the other films soon.
JonnyFreeze
06-11-2005, 04:42 AM
ye ill reflect on the fact that it i was only joking.
but i promise it will never happen again
Bigkid
06-14-2005, 11:02 AM
I'm sure Jones (and other cast members right now), are already working out deals for future X-styled films. By the way, I did read that partial script review over at AICN, and I don't really know WHAT to think! However, I do believe that the guy over there who reviewed what he (allegedly) read, did say that it was a read on most of what Matthew Vaughn had been working on with both Kinberg and Penn. Let's put everything into context here: it's in the early stages of development, so I'm sure that these guy's are going to be working feverishly on re-writes. I don't believe this is the script that is set in stone.
(To the moderator....... I tried looking for an "X-3 script" thread, but didn't see one, so I just posted here.) I'm sure if I looked harder, I'd find it. Or maybe I just should've started my own! 8)
Bigkid
07-25-2005, 09:40 PM
I have a question here that, actually, I think I should know the answer to already...... but I don't......... are Magneto and Juggernaut half-brothers, or is it Prof. X and Juggernaut? I get this confused sometimes. Can somebody.......Please..........SHARE.......... with me the answer, so I can sleep peacefully tonight? Thanks! :lol:
Majik1387
07-26-2005, 01:51 AM
I have a question here that, actually, I think I should know the answer to already...... but I don't......... are Magneto and Juggernaut half-brothers, or is it Prof. X and Juggernaut? I get this confused sometimes. Can somebody.......Please..........SHARE.......... with me the answer, so I can sleep peacefully tonight? Thanks! :lol:
Prof. X and Cain are half-brothers. Cain has no family relation to Magneto.
Bigkid
07-26-2005, 11:44 AM
Thank you, Majik ONE!
The reason that I asked, was because I'm sue that they can do a lot with Juggernaut in other X-Men films now. In a possible 4 and 5, they could perhaps go back in time and show us Xavier and Cain as youngsters, and maybe a "sibling rivalry" between the 2. I suggest this, because sometime ago, as a lot of us are aware of, somebody was able to post and old draft of X-3 on the 'net and there was a part of the story showing how Prof. X and Magneto are young men and they BOTH discover Jean. It's a flashback sequence, but I don't know if they do the same in the flashback showing Prof. X and his soon-to-be half-brother Cain becoming Juggernaut. I just thought it might be fun to do that with that character.......and therefore they'd more then likely HAVE to have Vinnie Jones come back for the sequel(s).
Znluvx
07-26-2005, 11:57 AM
So with Juggernaut being introduced in X3, are they going to change his origin and make him a super-powered mutant?
I know in the comics his powers came from a "magical" cyrstal he touched.
I know in the comics his powers came from a "magical" cyrstal he touched.
So...he wasnt a mutant before? wierd. :?
Bigkid
07-26-2005, 01:19 PM
So with Juggernaut being introduced in X3, are they going to change his origin and make him a super-powered mutant?
I know in the comics his powers came from a "magical" cyrstal he touched.
Z ONE!
I would imagine that in the upcoming X film, that that would be the case; that they are going to make him a super powerful mutant already. From that draft that was posted on the 'net, apparently he's in a specially built prison (similar to what Magneto was put in), when the film begins. Someting about a "jail break sequence". But then again, that was a rough draft that was, like, 4 months old when somebody got their hands on it, so that whole premise might've been dropped by now.
From X-men: Evo, when juggernaut was in that prison with the giant tube full of some liquid, I always wanted to see that happen in the movie and maybe not the same way but it would be cool for a busting out of jail scene with him. Or maybe a prison where he's covered in chains of the same metal wolverines skeleton is covered with. And he just blasts out of it with the help of magneto.
So when do you guys think we'll see the first image of Juggy on set? I think in 1 or 2 months.
Bigkid
07-26-2005, 09:01 PM
From X-men: Evo, when juggernaut was in that prison with the giant tube full of some liquid, I always wanted to see that happen in the movie and maybe not the same way but it would be cool for a busting out of jail scene with him. Or maybe a prison where he's covered in chains of the same metal wolverines skeleton is covered with. And he just blasts out of it with the help of magneto.
So when do you guys think we'll see the first image of Juggy on set? I think in 1 or 2 months.
BEARPOD!
I would think that we'll see some images around that time.......yes. Maybe even sooner. The fact that they are already showing such mundane stuff as 2nd unit set up shots of Alcatraz just re-enforces how much this is an anticipated flick, so I would think that we'll even begin to start getting ......dare I say this........a........TRAILER........... within the next half a year?? I mean.......look how fast we got images and trailers from Fantastic Four......and it appears that X-Men3 is even on a more TIGHTER shooting schedule then they were with FF....... due to the fact that they are going to be opening for Memorial Day weekend...... so I would imagine the images are going to start getting fed to us even sooner.
Bigkid
07-27-2005, 09:34 AM
Just finished reading the news today about the 2nd unit filming that they were doing over at Alcatraz Island........ and apparently, the scooper who talked to one of the guy's on the crew, was told that they were filming for the trailer........which should be out by or a little before Christmas. Which is what I predicted in the post just before this one (don't mean to be patting myself on the back, folks!) At any rate, that is what they are apparently shooting FOR.
Maybe a trailer of X3 in the King Kong previews. :shock:
DarrenJSeeley
07-27-2005, 02:10 PM
X3 trailer in King Kong previews would be ideal, since it is the best known genre project out the holiday season (also I expect one to appear on the FF DVD when it comes out) , although I wouldn't mind seeing one in front of the new Zorro film either.
The real question: is Alcatraz going to be Alcatraz where mutants are holed up under lock and key (setup for that long talked about 'jail break') or is it going to used a partial set to double for Muir island?
Bigkid
08-01-2005, 05:42 PM
I was thinking the same thing........ and I couldn't come up with an answer for myself! Maybe in the script Alcatraz has been re-opened (unbeknownst to the public), for the purposes of housing renegade (and NOT so renegade), mutants.
So are there any pics of him from the set yet? I dont click on much of the info sometimes because or the long loading but does anyone have a pic of him in the movie? i really want to see what changes they did to the costume, and how they got the actor on the costume...because I would never cast him as juggy...
Hmm if anyone has read the recent interview with Jones and his info on his next films he says he wants to play a villian...for Bond. But he said somewhere "It's good being a superhero but I'd like to have a go at James Bond." which I start thinking, is he playing a superhero in Xmen 3? He should be a villian...and another quote was...ahh just read it yourself :lol: .
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=15972
Make of it what you will...I forgot where I heard that was from. :?
Majik1387
11-11-2005, 11:31 AM
which I start thinking, is he playing a superhero in Xmen 3?
Also he said in the article that he wasn't into comic books that much before the movie so I think what he meant by superhero he meant it's good and fun to be in superhero movies. I think it's been confirmed somewhere he's going to be a villain but I don't know where exactly.
Essex
11-11-2005, 11:52 AM
I agree. I think for somebody unfamiliar with comics, "superhero" would just be a general word meaning "a person with superpowers."
I agree. I think for somebody unfamiliar with comics, "superhero" would just be a general word meaning "a person with superpowers."
Or an unnaturally augmented character out of Much Ado About Nothing. :lol:
I'm still wondering on the costume designs of Juggy. I really hope they go futuristic with it and have a silver type of look with all shiny metal. I'm not really into the red costume look that's called the "classic costume" for Juggy, and if we've learned anything about the costumes for X-films, they rarely stay the same. Maybe Juggy might have the Magneto look. A black costume (Like the Ultimate Juggernaut) with a few dark red lines going through and of course a cool helmet. And Juggy's helmet might make the costume have it's staring point. Everyone looks at the giant oval shaped helmet Juggy has and if they screw it up in the film, us fan-boys will probably rattle our chains and post angry reviews :lol: . Vinny's body...I wonder if he'll need more padding for the Juggy costume...I mean the guys soppose to be a giant.
Ever thought movie Juggy might not wear a helmet at all, but might just be clad in some generic black leather like the other X-Men?
Or he might just look like Vinnie Jones in Swordfish.
Ever thought movie Juggy might not wear a helmet at all, but might just be clad in some generic black leather like the other X-Men?
Or he might just look like Vinnie Jones in Swordfish.
I'll just come out and say it. I hate that idea! :x That is one of the things that went through my head when I first heard he was cast. He has that tough guy look (Like in Snatch) but no helmet on Juggy?! That's just wrong. The producers and everyone there ala Ari Avad and Stan Lee, can't allow this. It would be crazzy!!!
Damn, now the thought of seeing Wolverine with no wierd mask does look good but is way different from the comics is kinda like what would happen to Juggy if he didn't have a big helmet. But really that look would just not have that Juggernaut feel. :shock: :? I'm shocked and confused at this...I hope they stay true to the comic.
Ever thought movie Juggy might not wear a helmet at all, but might just be clad in some generic black leather like the other X-Men?
Or he might just look like Vinnie Jones in Swordfish.
I'll just come out and say it. I hate that idea! :x That is one of the things that went through my head when I first heard he was cast. He has that tough guy look (Like in Snatch) but no helmet on Juggy?! That's just wrong. The producers and everyone there ala Ari Avad and Stan Lee, can't allow this. It would be crazzy!!!
Damn, now the thought of seeing Wolverine with no wierd mask does look good but is way different from the comics is kinda like what would happen to Juggy if he didn't have a big helmet. But really that look would just not have that Juggernaut feel. :shock: :? I'm shocked and confused at this...I hope they stay true to the comic.
I bet Juggernaut could be done properly and comic accurate, without looking camp. Even the X-Men probably could have too. Just look at these customs (not by me) from another forum I usually post on:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Hutchi/Phoenixteam.jpg
Still truer to the comic looks, yet incorporating the darker, muted colours while not being completely generic. I wouldn't have minded something like that.
But somehow I think we might see business suit Juggernaut.
Majik1387
11-14-2005, 03:02 PM
I think it's highly doubtful that Juggernaut will have no helmet. It's his basic characteristic; without it I doubt anyone will know who he is. Plus the helmet also plays a key role for him while fighting psychics. The only thing I doubt about the helmet is I don't think it will look like an upside down bowl on his head, my guess is it will be redesigned.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Hutchi/Phoenixteam.jpg
Magneto looks good.
Pheonix might work with that look.
Wolverine looks like Catman. :lol:
Does Cyclops have pointy ears now?
I still think that these designs on Juggy will be unfamiliar to anyone who knows the characters look if there's no big helmet.
Bigkid
11-16-2005, 09:56 AM
I think that it's all in the INTRODUCTION of the helmet. From what I've been reading, and what I'm being led to believe, Juggernaut is incarcerated at the beginning of the film, and is being broken out by Magneto. I sort of envisioned Magneto BRINGING the helmet to Juggernaut...... I don't think we'll be seeing Juggy in his prison cell WITH a helmet on...... and when he finally DONS the helmet, we'll see that it's there for a reason. I imagine that they will show how the helmet is what gives him that extra "oooommph!" upon impact with objects, as the helmet IS a pretty powerful weapon, wouldn't you all agree?
But I agree with BEARPOD, it'd be a good thing to see the helmet in the film...... with, I'm sure, SOME sort of "modifications."
Essex
11-16-2005, 12:05 PM
That would make sense if we saw Juggy ramming things with his head, but that could be kind of strange. Personally, I always thought the helmet was ridiculous and I don't really have any desire to see it on film. I'd be just fine with a helmet-less Juggernaut.
It makes sense that Magneto gives the helmet to Juggy because from what I know about the thing is that it works the same way as Magneto's helmet. Shields Prof X from reading their mind and stuff. I think Juggernaut is strong enough to not need to use his head like a rhino in a battle and stuff.
One version of the Juggy helmet that I think is just too wierd is the Ultimate X-men version in the Annual. It looked like I was about to see E.T come out of it in the next page. :lol: Looked bizarre. I would like it based on the classic.
Essex
11-16-2005, 01:33 PM
But why would Magneto give a helmet to just Juggernaut (a lacky who presumbably knows very little) and not to any of the other members of the Brotherhood?
Hmm...it's been strongly rumoured that Avalanche is in the film. If he has a helmet, and Juggernat and Magneto have helmets, and Mystique's mind can't be properly read (like in the comics), then that could make sense. I just can't picture Pyro with a helmet...
I'm going to guess right now that Magneto will be the only one sporting metal headgear.
Bigkid
11-16-2005, 02:55 PM
The reason I don't agree, is because of Ratner. He IS very much a fan of the comic, and I think that he would like to somehow incorporate all the memories of the X-men (as well as baddies), and really give the proper nod to the comic. The reason I thought that Magneto would come into the prison WITH the helmet and giving it to Juggernaut, is for dramatic purposes. You know, the scene would go something like:
(Magneto, entering the prison cell where Juggernaut is being held....with the outside of the cell littered with prison guards knocked unconscious):
Magneto: "I believe this belongs to ........you".
(camera follows the helmet, slowly being passed over to Juggernaut, as he starts to smile a slow, broad, evil smile.....as music begins to ominously swell).
You know, something like that. I'm almost SURE it's going to be something like that.
Essex
11-16-2005, 03:23 PM
How about he makes the helmet on the fly out of random metal? There was this one scene in the Age of Apocalypse comics where Magneto made himself armour on the fly from shrapnel that he altered. It'd look awesome if he created something like that for Juggy out of prison bars and crap.
Or not...
But why would Magneto give a helmet to just Juggernaut (a lacky who presumbably knows very little) and not to any of the other members of the Brotherhood?
Valid question, however that's assuming there isn't a reason in the plot of the film. Maybe Jug-head knows something that no one but he and Magneto knows? The possibilities are limitless.
But why would Magneto give a helmet to just Juggernaut (a lacky who presumbably knows very little) and not to any of the other members of the Brotherhood?
Valid question, however that's assuming there isn't a reason in the plot of the film. Maybe Jug-head knows something that no one but he and Magneto knows? The possibilities are limitless.
Both Juggy and Magneto know about Charles X's mental powers from Magneto being friends with him and Juggy being his step-brother. It's understandable that they only wear the helmets because they are the only guy that know most about the powers of Prof X. And instead of Magneto giving Juggy a helmet, Juggy could have made his own...OR...Juggy asks Magneto to make one for him because of...well you get it.
But why would Magneto give a helmet to just Juggernaut (a lacky who presumbably knows very little) and not to any of the other members of the Brotherhood?
Valid question, however that's assuming there isn't a reason in the plot of the film. Maybe Jug-head knows something that no one but he and Magneto knows? The possibilities are limitless.
I think too much thinking through certain reasons can drag the film down. That's why the costumes in the X-Men movies can end up rather bland as compared to their comic-book counterparts, because they need too much of a reason to explain why someone dresses a particular way.
That's also the reason why Ang Lee spent so long trying to explain why the Hulk was green in the Hulk movie, essentially turning him into a mutant with jellyfish genes rather than allowing audiences simply to accept that he could turn green due to the gamma rays.
If Juggy wears a helmet purely for asthetic reasons, then I'm fine with that. I don't want to see Vinnie Jones as dressed in Swordfish, Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels or the Mean Machine. If he is going to look like that, then look: we have a pic of the Juggernaut costume right here:
http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/cinema/artigos/penalidade_maxima/5.jpg
http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/cinema/artigos/penalidade_maxima/5.jpg
:shock: The guy looks terribly skinny in that picture...too skinny to hold a giant helmet and too skinny to have that giant body we know Juggy has...And isn't Juggy a redhead?...Off topic. But I wonder if any pros here can manipulate a realistic looking helmet on him that can actually look similiar to Juggy's.
Bigkid
11-22-2005, 04:39 PM
Jones is a pretty big dude, even though he's not coming across as such in that picture......but he's a big guy. At least, that's the impression I get of him. Maybe he just comes across as very big, because of the mean S.O.B.'s that he's played in previous films. But I wouldn't put too much worry into the size of the guy in that picture. He's probably going to be seriously padded up anyway for the role......plus the fact that he's probably going to (or has been) really working out hard for the film. As for the helmet, I'm sure that the screenwriter's will find a way to fit in the logic and reasoning for somebody to be wearing a big clunky looking piece of iron over his mug.
Bigkid
01-17-2006, 03:34 PM
Just thought that I'd bring this topic back because it was information that I saw from here (actually, a link to superherohype.com was provided), but some fan contacted superherohype, and this guy was from Ireland, and he said that he saw a televison program over in Ireland where Vinnie Jones was being interviewed, and they asked him if he was coming back for some more X-films. And he said that yes, indeed, he was signed on for 4,5,AND 6..... the fan also noted that he was somewhat surprised, given that he had heard that this was going to be the last of the X films. But, there you have it.......apparently Jones is going to be back for 3 more flicks.......at least.
Hmmm.....Ok, so if he's signed up for 3 more X-films does that mean that there will be a 100% chance of there being 3 more films? It might just be a "just in case" thing that's put in the contract. I don't think that they'll go that far on making that many X-films. Magneto, Wolverine and the three X-films equal 5 in total. 3 more...8 in total...kinda a lot, don't ya think? :shock:
Hmmm.....Ok, so if he's signed up for 3 more X-films does that mean that there will be a 100% chance of there being 3 more films?
Nah, that doesn't mean there WILL be 3 more, it just means that should the studio decide to do more, he's commited to two more films. Tyler Mane (Sabertooth) was signed on for two movies, but was only in the first, for instance.
DarrenJSeeley
01-17-2006, 07:43 PM
Yes, it is also possible "X4" might go under the name 'Wolverine'.
Likewise, Kelly Hu was signed for X3 but won't appear.
Bigkid
01-18-2006, 12:06 PM
Right...... I guess the producers and the studio want to cover themselves in the event that the film scores highly with the public (which it did), and some of the characters worked out to the benefit of the film. I think, in the case of Juggernaut, that that's what is going to happen......and if they make at the VERY least ONE MORE X-Men film, that Jones will most assuredly be there.
Majik1387
01-18-2006, 02:16 PM
About the sequel things for villains. Kelly Hu signed on for "A" sequel, not the next sequel officially. She can still make an appearance in other sequels/spin-offs. Tyler Mane, Ray Park and Vinnie Jones signed up for 2 Sequels each. Obviously Tyler and Ray haven't been used yet, and I don't know if Bryan Singer's leaving affected their contract. Vinnie Jones has the highest chance of appearing in sequels due to him signing up with the new director.
Marvel Master 1
02-15-2006, 08:39 AM
What if Juggernaut, Omega Red and Sabretooth appear in the Wolverine
Majik1387
02-15-2006, 03:42 PM
What if Juggernaut, Omega Red and Sabretooth appear in the Wolverine
Then they'd be in a sequel/spin-off
If it's really X3 the last stand and last sequel, then I guess no Vinnie after all.
DarrenJSeeley
02-15-2006, 08:53 PM
If X3 Last Stand makes hand over fist, Jackman gets his solo Wolverine film ...I'd like a reappearance by Lady Deathstrike, or have Logan go up against someone like Silver Samurai (remember that Marvel 'prequel' comic before the events in the first movie?) but I'd like to see Vinnie Jones again too.
Better yet, I'd laugh if the last shot of X Men Last Stand has Logan and/or Storm walk out of the Danger Room, and the whole event was a simulation based on "actual events" with mistakes by new X Men resulting in the "deaths" of Cyke, Prof X, Magneto, Psylocke, and Jean Grey once again.
Or...the next film...hey...check this out. Cable, along with a grown up Kitty Pride- come back from the future to stop the death of Senator Kelly.
If they fail, "Days Of Futures Past" happens, and the surving mutants fall into the wing of a mutant named Apocolypse who takes the human-mutant war to more extremes. If Kelly can be cured, the Sentienels will never be deployed, and Apocolypse, along with Mr Sinister, will be exposed earlier on.
Thus Prof X and Cyke and anyone else who bites the dust won't.
And Juggernaut gets busted out not by Mags, but Black Tom.
:evil:
Bigkid
02-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Anything that sounds like introducing CABLE would be a great idea. I always liked that character, and if they could somehow work that angle into another X film it would be dynamite, with Juggernaut being in the mix once again. I think we all have to agree on seeing what Vinnie Jones actually DOES with this character first, but I think it's a foregone conclusion, anyway, that his characterization will be terrific, at any rate.
Bigkid
03-21-2006, 07:24 AM
Read the news today, oh boy (to quote Lennon/McCartney!)
In the news, they state that the filmmakers who are trying to do a "Wolverine" spin-off are thinking of haning Juggernaut in it. Vinnie Jones is quoted as saying he'd like his character to be part of it. That would be great to see Juggy in this spin off. Anybody agree (or DIS agree??)
PLEASE..................SHARE! 8)
effektdmentality
03-21-2006, 01:26 PM
DISAGREE
i say this because if they put juggy into what most people are thinking of as a prequel to the x-films, then it changes whatever interaction they have in x3. i say leave juggy out of the wolverine movie and make sabretooth the main villain. sabretooth has always been logan's main adversary, the one villain who caused logan the most grief. since sabretooth's origin wasn't elaborated in the first film, make both logan and creed come from weapon x, and logan hunting sabretooth across canada in hopes of learning more about his past, with the end of the film being logan meeting rogue in the bar.
Vinny might just be pissed that he doesn't get to be Juggy again. :D
Essex
03-21-2006, 04:27 PM
DISAGREE
i say this because if they put juggy into what most people are thinking of as a prequel to the x-films, then it changes whatever interaction they have in x3. i say leave juggy out of the wolverine movie and make sabretooth the main villain. sabretooth has always been logan's main adversary, the one villain who caused logan the most grief. since sabretooth's origin wasn't elaborated in the first film, make both logan and creed come from weapon x, and logan hunting sabretooth across canada in hopes of learning more about his past, with the end of the film being logan meeting rogue in the bar.
I don't think Sabretooth should ever be the main villain of a Wolverine movie. Whether they're rivals or not, the primary villain to BOTH of these characters will always be Weapon X. If anything, I'd like to see Wolvie and Sabes at eachother's throats before having to eventually work together.
DISAGREE
i say this because if they put juggy into what most people are thinking of as a prequel to the x-films, then it changes whatever interaction they have in x3. i say leave juggy out of the wolverine movie and make sabretooth the main villain. sabretooth has always been logan's main adversary, the one villain who caused logan the most grief. since sabretooth's origin wasn't elaborated in the first film, make both logan and creed come from weapon x, and logan hunting sabretooth across canada in hopes of learning more about his past, with the end of the film being logan meeting rogue in the bar.
I don't think Sabretooth should ever be the main villain of a Wolverine movie. Whether they're rivals or not, the primary villain to BOTH of these characters will always be Weapon X. If anything, I'd like to see Wolvie and Sabes at eachother's throats before having to eventually work together.
Wow, now looking back at that post, the idea of Sabertooth and Wolvy teaming up is insane. See in the comics it can happen but as the audience has seen them fighting in X-men 1, the movie fans will go nuts. They'll hate it! I know, because most of my friends think that Sabertooth vs Wolvy is like the most never ending fight in the MU...But all they saw was the movies. I think to let the fans love this spin-off you got to give them alot of action and no teaming up with anyone! It's a solo film for Logan and let's keep it that way!
Essex
03-22-2006, 05:49 AM
Wow, now looking back at that post, the idea of Sabertooth and Wolvy teaming up is insane. See in the comics it can happen but as the audience has seen them fighting in X-men 1, the movie fans will go nuts. They'll hate it! I know, because most of my friends think that Sabertooth vs Wolvy is like the most never ending fight in the MU...But all they saw was the movies. I think to let the fans love this spin-off you got to give them alot of action and no teaming up with anyone! It's a solo film for Logan and let's keep it that way!
The audience is going to have the entire Wolverine movie to learn more about the complex relationship between Logan and Sabretooth. There's more to their relationship than just intense hatred. To make THIS fan love the movie, they're going to need to hand out as much character development as action :)
Bigkid
03-29-2006, 06:42 AM
Essex makes a very good point: A Wolverine movie is going to HAVE to have a nice, developing storyline about WOLVERINE'S character, so therefore, I guess it would make more sense to leave Juggernaut out of the film. Although, I don't know HOW they are going to end off with Juggernaut in the NEXT X film, but perhaps they can make SOME sort of reference to him in a Wolvie film........maybe they hire Jones for a day or 2 of work in a flashback sequence.........OH, BUT WAIT! You can't do that if you are making a prequel! This is all happening before Wolverine even meets up with Juggy!
NEVER MIND! :oops:
Essex
03-29-2006, 07:42 AM
It's possible that they'll explain that Juggernaut isn't a mutant at all and was actually a part of the Weapon X project. Maybe he volunteered based on his hatred and jealousy of Charles and the attention he got from his father. It's not exactly the Cytorrak gem like in the comics, but it could work.
Bigkid
04-06-2006, 03:22 PM
O.K.........
I CAN BUY THAT!
Now I don't feel as foolish as when I FIRST made that statement! LOL! :lol:
Any logical way to get Juggernaut back into a flick will work for me. I mean, that is, unless Jones really screws up his part in the upcoming flick
(Somehow I DOUBT that, though). I thought he'd make a really good Juggernaut the first time I'd heard the rumor that they were going for him.
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