View Full Version : ITS COMIN OUT 2MORO!!!
OK first off...Am I the only person here thats excited about it???
Its comin out 2moro and with alot of commercials and advertisements everywhere I still would watch this without them...come on it wont be that bad as the reviews say...get your own opinion and see it! then judge it...
I hope the film gets the first place for the weekend in the box office and at least stays that way for 2 more weeks...
and for a final last word...
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
ITS COMIN OUT 2MORO!!!
07-07-2005, 06:25 PM
I vote that I'm not really excited. Doom is such a great character and I can't stand the changes to him. Plus Sue is dating him or some nonesense. Add to that a questionable director and no one dicernable like Goyer or Del Toro with a direction for the script and love of the characters. Color me not too unterested and quite disapointed.
This weekend I likley will go see either Batman Begins again and/or Howl's Moving Castle finally. I am in no rush to see Fantastic Four.
At the same time a friend of mine who is much more of a Doom fan says he is going to see it even with his even lower expectations. Hell, he was somewhat disapointed with the start of Batman Begins.
I WOULD be excited, but it's getting wretched reviews, so I have to vote 'No'. But I'm still going to see it tomorrow.
07-08-2005, 01:09 AM
Well, I'm excited.
And as for the negative reviews, I don't pay attention to them. If I did, I would never have seen films like Constantine, House on Haunted Hill, From Dusk til Dawn, Saw or any other films I like despite the negative reviews.
07-08-2005, 01:17 PM
I'm going to the first showing here in lovely Paradise, California. However, I'm not holding out hope for a Spiderman or Batman Begins caliber movie. The reviews wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't agree with what I believe are the weak points of the movie. (Director, story and movement away from the source material.) I'm hoping for a nice suprise though.
07-08-2005, 02:39 PM
I never gave a shit about the Fantastic Four and all I was ever interested in were their powers. So I think I'll enjoy it enough, as the effects look very nice. For me, this isn't like Batman or X-Men where I'll be pissed if they screw everything up. I couldn't care less if they do, as long as it looks cool.
07-08-2005, 09:07 PM
Someone owes Roger Corman an apology.
Relax, no spoilers here
I'll get more in depth on a FanView, but as much as I loved the FF,
as much as I liked some of the actors, and, alright, some special effects were done nicely. If nothing else, the latter bit is the best thing about FF, other than Chikils as the Thing. Storywise, yeech. And the weak link in the chain is not only lack of a plot, but lack of a decent villi ...
Look,when I saw the first trailer, I thought the film would be great.
I saw the other trailers, and my heart sank. I come out of the film, and I hope that if there is an FF sequel, they combine it with Silver Surfer/Coming of Galactus otherwise, there won't be a demand for one...unless there is a Two In One.
Sorry. I wanted to like, no, I wanted to love this film. I only want to remember the good stuff. The effects. Scenes with Chikilis. An early scene with John Storm (Chris Evans) on a ski slope (minus the irritating and uneccessary song- gosh I despise those bands who sing like they got a bad cold and sound like other bands whose lead singer sounds like he's got a bad cold) . The media frenzy jokes. Stan Lee the mailman.
I voted "yes", but the end result is one of disappointment.
:evil: :evil: :(
...and yes, Doctor Doom...
...let me tell you about Doctor Doom...
07-08-2005, 11:27 PM
I can't help but think some very important plot details were left on the cutting room floor. Dr. Doom killed his doctor, a competitor on his board, a couple of guards...He tried to kill the Fantastic Four. He never seemed to get around to threatening the city. I was having a hard time buying that the city of New York would give them a "thank you" party for stopping him. For surely it wasn't for scaring the suicidal jumper onto the Brooklyn bridge and causing a 100 car pile-up.
Wondering how they got back to Earth too!
I thought they nailed the special effects, but I was left wondering, "Where is the beef?" This film should have been great, but if you don't have anything to say, desing rides at some theme park and let someone else make the movies.
The REAL question is: How was Jessica Alba's acting???
[begin sacrasm]Wasn't she the PERFECT person to play Sue Storm, like ToM and Tim Story said??? [/end sacrasm]
blech... what a waste. Alba's the LEAST believable scientist since Denise Richards' nuclear physicist "Christmas Jones" in that James Bond flick. I'm gonna watch my Corman bootleg in protest. At least Rebecca Staab's Sue Storm was a real blonde... and hotter.
07-09-2005, 12:46 AM
blech... what a waste. Alba's the LEAST believable scientist since Denise Richards' nuclear physicist "Christmas Jones" in that James Bond flick.
No. She's the least beliveable scientist since Tara Reid in "Alone In The Dark".
I thought Jessica was too young for the part. She got hired perhaps by name value, but my thoughts on it that it had more to do with cleavage action.
07-09-2005, 01:17 AM
At least Denise Richards's character came once a year.
I'm psyched to see how this movie turned out. The FF. were *never* some brooding, serious book, but a light, fun romp with lots of humor and action. Just from the specials and such on television, I can see that Fox delivers on all the promises of superheroics and action that they *never* paid up on in their X-Men films (building up to big super-antics, battles, only to come up with excuses for WHY the characters *couldn't* use their superpowers---no flights for Storm for example).
I remember the tepid to scathing reveiws that X-Men won from critics in 2000. I remember how the fans online castigated the movie months in advance for costume changes, for cheezy FX work in the spots, all the same stuff we've been seeing here. The FF. comics *never* held the emotional depth of the post Giant Size X-Men #1 period, so why should we expect the film adaptation to? Fantastic Four is a comic book romp I'd like to see as a film. If they made it Othello, they made it all wrong ( as in how Ang Lee over intellectualized The Hulk and *ruined* the possibilities for fun).
Anyway, at work *everybody* is talking about how fun this movie looks...and how UNFUN all these other films have been. I'm curious to see what the opening weekend take will be. Batman Begins by the way is *already* declining, decreasing in the number of screens it's showing on around the country. Let's hope FF. does well, the comics 2 film genre may be in serious need of a booster shot at the box office if it's to survive.
07-09-2005, 09:19 AM
WHY the characters *couldn't* use their superpowers---no flights for Storm for example...
Storm did do some minor flying up the elevator shaft in the first X-Men film; Mags can 'fly' by wearing metals on the soles/heels of his boots.
I remember the tepid to scathing reveiws that X-Men won from critics in 2000. I remember how the fans online castigated the movie months in advance for costume changes, for cheezy FX work in the spots, all the same stuff we've been seeing here.
I remember a few mixed reviews from critics, but nothing as scatching as the lashing that FF is getting. I also remember more positive reviews.
The only contreversy I recall with fans is why Singer didn't get rocker Glenn Danzig to play Logan after Dougray Scott dropped out. The only "cheesy FX" line I recall was the first "Spider-Man" trailers, where Spidey was 90% CGI. Maybe your memory is better than mine, but I can't recollect that the fans hated whatever FX they seen in the trailers. Besides, there's a huge difference to what FX are seen in teasers and the reaction to a film as a whole.
The FF comics *never* held the emotional depth of the post Giant Size X-Men #1 period, so why should we expect the film adaptation to?
1) Because it is a film. Not to mention that there is some well done character moments with Thing and Torch. All other characters in the film, specifically Doom, are humdrum.
2) The FF did have emotional depth in the comics from time to time.
Batman Begins by the way is *already* declining, decreasing in the number of screens it's showing on around the country.
Begins is the best Batfilm yet, and I'm not sure why it is declining in screens. Last week, it was only dethroned by those nasty martians after two weeks in the top spot.
I'm curious to see what the opening weekend take will be. Batman Begins by the way is *already* declining, decreasing in the number of screens it's showing on around the country.
You certainly are desperate to justify yourself, aren't you, ToM? Batman's been out almost a month (Have you seen it yet, btw?). With everything that's come out since then, from War of the Worlds to The Island and FF, it's NATURALLY going to lose viewers to them.
The difference between Begins and FF is that Batman Begins appealed to a wide range of viewers outside the comic fan core, from children to mature adults, who spread good word of mouth about it. The FF movie isn't even getting good feedback (for the most part) from comic fans! Children and their parents will like it, and comic fans who lower their expectations enough will enjoy it for what it is, but thinking that it will even compare to BB in terms of box office take or longtime appeal is simply a joke.
Many people I know who turn their noses up at comics loved Batman Begins. They won't even waste their gas money to check out the Fantastic Four. It's a "Daredevil" quality film, without the benefits of a cooler "Director's Cut" waiting in the wings.
Let's hope FF. does well, the comics 2 film genre may be in serious need of a booster shot at the box office if it's to survive.
Well, with the Fantastic Four film getting a 74% "ROTTEN" rating from rottentomatoes.com, the box office certainly isn't going to get much help from that film! What idiot decided Tim Story was the best person to direct this movie again? :evil:
07-09-2005, 11:54 AM
Well it seems we are oppositely minded, Tom. You did not like Batman Begins (seen it yet, by the way?) and I was looking forward to it while you are looking forward to FF where I am disapointed and will avoid it.
Seriously, it may be fun if you put your mind on the back burner. You'll also have to forget about the comics because they changed the characters so much. This movie, from reviews I've read talking confirming problems, jsut doesn't have a lot of fum. You don't really care about the characters and if you were a fan of them already, they've been too neutered.
FF isn't Batman, but this movie isn't Fantastic Four. In Batman Begins I was in awe when I saw character I loved on screen. I SAW them. Here, *sigh* I might get some glipses of Reed and definatley the Torch and the Thing. Doom is a lost cause. It's just not him. It's the freaking Green Goblin.
Of course, you say emotion and character doesn't matter. Bull, I say. What kind of crappy movie is it where they don't?! Even comedies or action films you need emtion and character.
And don't even talk about Batman Begins vs FF at the box office. Even though the box office is mostly crap in various ways, Batman was at least only one of three films to stay at number one two weeks in a row. I have to wonder if FF can even make it to one week at number one with War of the Worlds a week before and Dark Water the same week.
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