2:18 - Dave - April 5th (Hurley)

[Queen Mae]

ABC.com:
Libby lends Hurley support when he begins to think the island is having a strange effect on him, and Locke's sense of purpose is shaken when the prisoner provides new information about the hatch. Guest starring are Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Evan Handler as Dave, Bruce Davison as Dr. Brooks, Ron Bottitta as Leonard and Grisel Toledo as nurse.

I assume "the prisoner" is Henry Gale.

Hurley flashes back to the mental institution

[neglet]

I think that was an episode late last season, in which we learned that Hurley got his magic lottery numbers from a fellow inmate at the institution.

[Jakester]

I would presume so as well, Sis, but since we've since discovered that he's not Henry Gale, they simply called him "The prisoner."

Maybe he should call himself "Number 6."

[KingVoyeur]

Jesus how many people were in that damn institution?

[southpaw]

This was a great episode.

[Adam54]

Not as great as last week, but still very great.

I'm reserving full comment since I missed the first ten minutes and need to go back on the tape.

They...they very much threw us a classic Lostian mindfuck in at the end. Beautiful.

[DarkJedi]

I would wager a guess that Libby likes Hurley cause it reminds her that she has gotten better....from her days in the nuthouse.(after that reveal at the end).

[Son of Gilbert]

May be she's not a doctor, maybe someone that was in the instition as well and the reason she told everyone she is a doctor is b/c she's crazy. Or just the maybe the instition was funded by the Hanso/dharma group


Did I call that shit or what

[fastcar]

I knew it too, but I don't think I ever mentioned.

Props to my wife who figured out Dave was imaginary early on in the show. Way before the revelation of Hurley deck crasher.

Do you think Gale let the clock run out? Or do you think that was a tactic to goad Locke more....destroying his faith?

[Queen Mae]

Dave: I figured it out during the first flashback of the show. However, I'm guessing that most people did and the writers expected this. I think they probably expected the mindfuck to be Libby.

Libby: I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't remember Hurley. She may not have been lying to him when she said that she's never met him before. She was definitely out of it when she was in the institution; whereas Hurley had some levels of an ego and possibly even a superego - Libby, on the other hand, appeared to be all id. (Appear of course is the key word)

I believe she genuinely likes Hurley because she, from what we've been shown, is a genuine person. It doesn't matter to her that Hurley is obese. What matters to her is that he is a good person - that's attractive to her. Of course, there's the layer, that Jedi pointed out, she probably feels a kinship with him, even if she doesn't realize it consciously.

Now, is she still crazy? Is she really a psychologist? I think the answers are no and yes. I could be wrong, she could be evil, or she could be batshit crazy. But I think it would be far more interesting to have her as a redeemed character on the island - a la Rose. The Losties need some grounded people in their camp. I'd like to see Libby serve this purpose.

Sawyer (and really everyone on the island): Why the hell do people feel the need to deem someone crazy? First it was Charlie and then it was Hurley... but you know, Kate can have a horse follow her around, Locke can give people peyote, Jack can see his dead father running around in tennis shoes, and Sawyer can steal guns and squish a treefrog - and oh yeah, Sun can mystically get pregnant and Claire gives birth to the anti-christ.

COME ON PEOPLE!!! Stop hiding your freaktastic experiences from each other!! I'm getting bored with the "Which one of the uncool kids will be labeled crazy this week???!!!" bit. Everyone needs to just admit that the island is wickety-wackety and I can be spared that level of unintelligent drivel.

*ahem*

Henry Gale: Did he push the button? Didn't he push the button? Who knows. Was he lying during all of his other confessions: Of course - except the part where he said "I'm a good person." I think he really really believes that.

[Jakester]

Remember, The Others only take the "Good" people.

[neglet]

I also had Dave pegged as imaginary from the beginning, and pretty much settled on that during the basketball scene, when the other players ignored him. If he is the self-punishing part of Hurley's subconscious, it makes sense he would start to appear just as Hugo was befriending Libby--because subconsciously he thinks he doesn't deserve her.

Libby had struck me as the type who looks beyond appearances, but I'm not sure what her appearance in the final scene portends. She looked completely out of it, so it's hard to speculate why she was in the institution and how she transformed into the grounded type she seems like today. Was she doing some kind of undercover investigation or was she truly nuts? Now I want to see her backstory, right away!

As for "Henry Gale" and the button ... I think he really didn't push it, and it's part of his mind games to tell the truth in such a way that it sounds like he's lying. That's pretty much been his MO throughout his captivity.

[fastcar]

If you look at this as the Island of Misfits' Second Chances. Then Libby must be there to be the grounded person that she is

[Minion]

Decent episode. The Hurely/Libby stuff is great, and I dunno... they do have good onscreen character about them. I think Libby does remember Hurley though....just the look on her face as she walking away from the cliff with him. It looked very downcast and worried...like she already knew what Hurley was going to do, or afraid he might remember why she seems familiar. Not really sure though...she was looped out on those lovely meds in the institution though.

Henry Gale however fascinates the hell out of me now that Locke is too busy brooding and Mr. Eko is too busy....well, not being on the show that much. I just have this feeling that Henry is part of the Dharma Initiative....dunno, maybe one of the replacements or one of the scientists in charge of what is going down on that island. He knows a hell of a lot about it...especially with all those cryptic things said to Locke. "God doesn't know!!" and (in response to Locke saying something about the Other who took Walt) "Him!? He is nothing!!" Oh, and right before that..."You don't know what he is capable of."

Whether or not he pushed the button...speculation really. I don't remember hearing the same alarm go off during that episode as the one that was going off the first time the hieroglyphics appeared...but I'm not positive. He either knows what happens when the button isn't pressed, and thus is able to describe what goes on, or nothing really did happen.

Minion: Slightly more interested in the show now.

[Queen Mae]

Because if they were to kill HG they would lose their only source of information about the Others.

I think everyone believes he is an Other, but he is of no use to them dead.

[kah]

I don't have a ton to say. I was starting to lose interest in this show, but the last 3 episodes have pulled me back in. I know you guys called Libby being a patient, but it still pissed me off. I wanted someone on the island to not be damaged. I don't remember the Rose story. Anyone care to fill me in? Lastly- Henry Gale, or whoever the fuck he is... He is just so messed up, and all the wounds make him look even creepier. My mind just screams "Leper! Outcast Unclean!" every time I look at him. I don't think he pushed the button either. I wouldn't be surprised if there were other stations on the island with buttons to be pushed as well, and the others already know they are just a mindfuck game from the Dharma scientists.

[Queen Mae]

We don't know Rose's story yet, so it's very possible that I'm wrong and she's completely screwed in the head. I'm just assuming, based on what we've seen, that she's a fairly grounded individual.

[Tricksterson]

I liked this episode even though I figured out Dave wasn't real just from the preview the week before. There was something about his movements and facial expressions that just screamed "wrong".
Maybe Libby likes Hurley because, like Jack, she needs to fix things. or maybe she's just a "chubby-chaser". Now if only I could find one who looks like that.
I think it will ultimately be revealed that Rose and Bernard are ritual cannibals who have a severed head collection back home:D .
Increasingly Henry is reminding me of Verbal Kint from The Usual Suspects.

[neglet]

But seriously, I only saw Usual Suspects once. Which character are you talking about?

The Kevin Spacey character. I've thought since the first time I saw "Henry Gale" that he was very reminiscent of Spacey in "Usual Suspects"--the same kind of passive-agressive maybe-he's-good/maybe-he's-bad dichotomy.

[Tricksterson]

And he pretends to be a pawn when in reality he's the chessmaster.

[Son of Gilbert]

Yeah I can see the How Verbal and Gail are the same. Both said that they were someone they weren't, both have an alterer motives and they have someone in power eating out of their hand.

[Hornunfuk]

To early.

[Jakester]

Early is a place? What/who is going there?

[alaristhered]

Thanks, Jakester. Glad to know I'm not the only "Grammar Nazi" on the board!