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denjin
10-15-2005, 09:52 AM
I never send in rumors to any websites because they are all corporate subsidaries that never report rumours per se; they are studio run PR machines that gauge fan acceptance to any certain gear involved in movie making. I neither work for Warner Bros. or have any ties to the related actor but according to my good buddy Sam ,an intern at Warner Bros. ,one named mentioned for the role of Penguin is Philip Seymour Hoffman; his tremendous showing in Truman Capote has his name being kicked about. You can take it with a grain of salt but I believe my source.

The Xenos
10-15-2005, 05:44 PM
Wow... I can really see that. Though is Hoffman short enough? I mean I don't want a actual little person, but Penguin is a short man and it does add to his character.

As for his work in Capote, I am dying to see that as I was enthralled and terrified with In Cold Blood when I read it in high school.

-Xenos

Sonic1002
10-15-2005, 11:39 PM
While I don't like him as my idea of Bob Hoskins for the role, I can definately see how he could pull it off.

Pod
10-16-2005, 06:30 PM
IMO, If they would make another batman film with Pengiun I want the same actor from the Burton versions. I forgot his name and too lazy to find it so I'll just say he was a good casting and I wish they would get him back but thats really a doubtful idea.

The Xenos
10-17-2005, 08:42 AM
While Danny DiVito could have made a good cleaner Penguin, I don't thnk we should go back to any of the old actors again. It would be too weird and confusing to many. There are plenty of other actors out there anyway,

-Xenos

denjin
10-17-2005, 12:10 PM
Danny Devito is out of the question; it would be way too confusing. As for Bob Hoskins I can really see it happening like 10 years ago, his age is at a serious disadvantage ,but I wouldnt mind seeing him in the role; he could easily slide into that character circa his Who Framed Roger Rabbit days.

I spoke with my food friend Sam over the weekend and he told me it's way to early for casting, but that the movie should be cast around Spring 2006. The Philip Hoffman idea is just an idea being kicked about; Hoffman's work schedule would permit him to appear in the film and the buzz around "Capote" has Oscar written all over it.

On the flip side I asked about it being sold that Paul Bettany is a shoe in for the Joker ,to which I was told that the role is for him to lose and the Lachy Hulme idea is not as far fetched as reported on Dark Horizons; from what the avid movie goer can tell, Bettany has better acting chops than Hulme. Mr. Hulme can certainly impress with his readings and take the coveted role of the Harrlequin of Hate

KillJoelShumacher
10-24-2005, 01:08 AM
In my meaningless opinion, if penguin is used in the new movies, I would like to see what Paul Giamati could do with the role.

Bigkid
10-25-2005, 10:57 AM
In my meaningless opinion, if penguin is used in the new movies, I would like to see what Paul Giamati could do with the role.

KJS!

WOW! That's a GREAT choice! I would have never thought about that.....and I like BOTH Phillip Seymore Hoffman and Paul Giamatti. But I have to say, that THAT is inspired casting! Good call! 8)

Essex
10-25-2005, 11:26 AM
I LOVE Giamatti and I love the idea of him in the role. Hoffman is a great actor, but I don't see him as the short and stocky Penguin. Giamatti fits that look much better. He'd even have the perfect voice.

FireStormTrooper
10-25-2005, 01:14 PM
Giamatti is a superb choice for the Penguin. Has he ever done any violent roles before? Hoffman is likewise great. I really like the idea of Joe Pesci as Oswald Cobblebot because I know he could bring an aura of real danger to the Penguin, but then again he may be too much of a "star".

The Penguin should be a brash, viscious and dangerous mobster (but NOT a freak like Devito's version in BATMAN RETURNS). In fact, the "Penguin" should be a mobster nickname like "the Godfather", only with much less respect.

denjin
10-25-2005, 02:05 PM
Joe Pesci? Are you out of youre mind? He couldnt carry an good english accent, I'd prefer Bob Hoskins or Hoffman for the role

Essex
10-25-2005, 03:26 PM
English accent? I don't know much about the Penguin, but I don't recall him being English.

Sonic1002
10-25-2005, 03:48 PM
But, does he neccasarily have to have an american accent? I think that he could be played with either accent and still be true to his character.

The Xenos
10-25-2005, 06:15 PM
Eh, I think he's snobby enough that he pretends to be British. Pip pip.

Now, Paul Giamatti sounds like an awesome suggestion. Though he's have to act a little more classy and stuck up than some of his other roles.

-Xenos

DarrenJSeeley
10-25-2005, 07:04 PM
Paul Giamatti is wonderful thinking. Generally, the actor has appeaed in big budget films, but either as the best buddy (Paycheck) or comic relief (Planet Of The Apes-yes, the Tim Burton version). But despite the lackluster performance of the film 'Cinderella Man', Giamatti stood out as Braddock's (Crowe) trainer.

But let not forget his outstanding work as cartoonist rebel Harvey Pikar in American Splendor... which I think helps sell the Penguin thought. If they make Oswald British, I think Giamatti could pull off a light British accent if needed.

In addition, I was flipping the channels the other day, and I caught part of this show...I think it was on the Discovery Channel. "Mythbusters" is the name of the show. They were busting a myth based on a 'magic bullet theory. Here's link to that episode description; scroll down to the last segment of that episode.

http://www.mythbustersfanclub.com/html/exploding_toilet.html

So, maybe in the Nolan Batman films, a certian villian can get away with deadly umbrellas...

Pod
10-25-2005, 07:14 PM
I love Mythbusters...hehe :lol: 8)

I'm not sure on your chioces but for one, I'm starting to think the Pengiun should stay out of this new batman franchise.

KillJoelShumacher
10-27-2005, 10:20 PM
I'm glad you guys like my choice. I Think that Giamati could easily pull of the penguin. Just imagine the character he played in "Private Parts", but with an english accent and a monocle.

easy D
10-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Well, I've never really imagined Penguin with an English accent. Come to think of it, I don't think Burgess Meredith or Danny DeVito played him with an accent, either. But, yeah, Giamatti could still work as Penguin.

dogsgotlipstick
10-29-2005, 12:05 PM
the informer on bof that said about the penguin also suggested that he is a british arms dealer.

If he is british there is a list of people i wouldn't mind seeing (no particular order)

robbie coltrane
brian cox
brendan gleeson
ray winstone (my favourite)
david suchet
bob hoskins
michael gambon

Jakerman
12-03-2005, 02:59 PM
New report today that Bob Hoskins is a canidate for Penguin. I've heard his name thrown around the web alot, but what has he been in? What does he look like?

Pod
12-03-2005, 03:57 PM
Bob Hoskins-Very Pengy indead. :shock:

http://www.studio1289.com/entertainers/hoskins5.jpg

Jakerman
12-03-2005, 05:15 PM
He does look the part. I wouldn't mind him as Penguin, but that's judging by his looks.

Majik1387
12-03-2005, 06:47 PM
New report today that Bob Hoskins is a canidate for Penguin. I've heard his name thrown around the web alot, but what has he been in? What does he look like?

He played Mario in the Super Mario Bros. movie.

Pod
12-03-2005, 07:02 PM
He's short enough to play the role. He can act mean enough to play the role. And he has that aspect of looking good as the role. So yeah, he'd be a good chioce for Pengy. He WAS mario! God, I hated that movie! It was a disgrace to the video game.

Jakerman
12-03-2005, 08:16 PM
:lol: I barely remember that movie but I do remember hating it. :lol:

Sonic1002
12-03-2005, 08:39 PM
FROM Batman-on-Film:

“I thought I would send this info your way as I’m sure you and your readers will find it interesting. I sure did. Now, this is nothing more than rumor, so make sure you provide your readers that disclaimer. I heard this from someone who has the proper connections and is usually on the mark. OK, the rumor is that The Penguin will appear as one of the villains in the next [BATMAN] film, right? Got a name for you: Bob Hoskins. Got to say that that Hoskins would be perfect for the role. So if true and pans out, it would be another bit of spot on casting by the Bat-crew.”

I have two words for you all: Boo. Yah.

Pod
12-03-2005, 09:14 PM
Interesting Find, Sonic. :shock:

He does bring that dark villian feel like he did in Unleashed which in a way takes his acting from the Super Mario's movie to be a thing in the past. I am intreged to hear that this is actaully going to be one of the villians Nolan would choose. As so, I was with Scarecrow. With the elements they put in BB's villians I'm predicting that the Penguin will be even darker than Burtons. :shock: Now that's something to see.

Jakerman
12-04-2005, 12:07 PM
I imagine Nolan's Penguin will be the club owner/information trader that he's been in recent comics and not the old umbrella wielding crime boss.

Zac
12-04-2005, 12:47 PM
C2F listed that as nothing more than an iffy rumor, I wouldn't put much stock into it.

Pod
12-04-2005, 01:02 PM
Yeah this is going towards a fan boy rumor. Someone really wants Pengy! But I'm going towards that BB's sequel will be featuring only one villian. I think, like the first batman movie, that Joker is a villian that needs no help and with another villian on scene, it'll probably make Joker kill that villain instead of becoming partners.

But still that casting is pretty good with that actor getting better movies these days.

Sonic1002
12-04-2005, 09:30 PM
I could see this rumor being based in the realm of reality. I mean, the organized crime no longer has a leader anymore, with Falcone gone now. So, Penguin could now take over that, while keeping it under wraps under the guise of his night-club.

Bigkid
12-07-2005, 10:16 AM
Is it even sure that The Penguin is going to even be IN the next version? I have heard that it's going to be Joker..... are they thinking of havning, like, a couple of villains?

Hoskins wouldn't be a bad choice either, but to tell you the truth, I really liked KillJoelSchumacher's choice (love that guy's screen name!)

Of course, that choice being Paul Giamatti. I think he's a heluva good actor.... I think he's going to get s best supporting actor nod for this years "Cinderella Man." But, that's just MY 2 cents.

Majik1387
12-07-2005, 12:43 PM
Is it even sure that The Penguin is going to even be IN the next version? I have heard that it's going to be Joker..... are they thinking of havning, like, a couple of villains?


The only villain confirmed to be in the next movie is Joker. Penguin is a rumor at the moment. Over on that Batman to film site, at one point they got word of a British Arms dealer character that people believe to be Penguin. I believe it, but it's still to be taken as a rumor. As for Harvey Dent/Two-Face, I think it's confirmed that Harvey is in it but I can't think of where, but I know that Two-Face isn't in it.

Pod
12-07-2005, 03:16 PM
From it all I'm going with that Joker is going to be the only villian to the BB sequel. It makes more sense...And I've been holding this theory for a long time. Maybe the 3rd movie of this new trilogy might feature once again a double combo villian team that might include Pengy. I think that it's ok to see him on the new film but they might make him look bad if they go towards a way that makes Burton's Pengy look like Kingpin...er, I can't think up of anything better.

Many people I kno thing Pengy has those qierd hands and a much longer nose that's like 6 inches. And from what I know, he's just a midget that's overwieght and seems to be sad from his parents death...I was never following him in the comics, so I don't have much info on the guy.

denjin
12-08-2005, 09:12 AM
I was the first to break the Hoffman/Penguin rumor a while ago with my insider on Warner Bros. While the suggestion of Hoffman as the Penguin to me is old news the idea of Norman Rockwell as the Joker is pretty new and wierd and get this my insider also tells me that another name being thrown about as the Joker as a wild suggestion out of left field is none other than Mark Paul-Gosselar.

norrinraad
12-08-2005, 09:49 AM
and get this my insider also tells me that another name being thrown about as the Joker as a wild suggestion out of left field is none other than Mark Paul-Gosselar.

He was good on Dawson's Creek.

Or, was that Saved By the Bell?

I can never tell the two actors apart...
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Majik1387
12-08-2005, 06:00 PM
[quote="denjin"]and get this my insider also tells me that another name being thrown about as the Joker as a wild suggestion out of left field is none other than Mark Paul-Gosselar.

He was good on Dawson's Creek.

Or, was that Saved By the Bell?

quote]

He's from Saved by the Bell. Zack Morris.
I had him on my first dream cast in the fourm here but not for Joker, I saw him more as a Harvey Dent(he was really good in NYPD Blue)

RayStantz
12-16-2005, 09:05 AM
AFter seeing the new King Kong flick and how serious Jack Black can ACTUALLY be, I came to the conclusion that he wouldn't be a horrible penguin at all.

denjin
12-16-2005, 09:34 AM
Even though he did play a great part in King King, I very much doubt he is cast as the Penguin. To me its pretty scary how I revelaed how Hoffman was a frontrunner(with a little help from a friend) and how its playing out over the media. Bob Hoskinns is also another excellent choice as i recall him from Unleashed.Stay tuned.

Pod
12-16-2005, 01:22 PM
Jack Black still can't fool himself into becoming the Pengy! :lol:

I would see him as a guy who can act really serious if he can act the role. Can he act as pengy? I don't think soo. And IMO he looks a bit too tall for the role...Just a bit.

Bring forth the new pengy...played by Jack Black? No thank you. :shock:

Majik1387
12-16-2005, 01:44 PM
My top choice is Bob Hoskins, but if that doesn't work out I'd deal with Jason Alexander.

RayStantz
12-22-2005, 01:20 PM
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/6310/penguin3lz.jpg

Pod
12-22-2005, 03:11 PM
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/6310/penguin3lz.jpg

Hmm.....That nose is too flat and it looks like it's sleeping :lol: . But from the actor it's just that the guy is too tall for the role.

Fat, yes. Short, no. That's why Jack Black shouldn't be Pengy.

DarrenJSeeley
12-29-2005, 10:32 PM
After seeing ... King Kong I came to the conclusion that {Jack Black} wouldn't be a horrible penguin at all.

It's funny, because I thought about, on a whim, about another actor from Kong who could pull off Pengy. Wait...don't laugh...

Andy Serkis

Just...think about it...not a big name, but he is known for playing Kong (and The Cook in 'Kong') and Gollum in LOTR. He also appeared in '24 Hour Party People' and '13 Going On 30'.

Side Note: Just for his name alone, he also could make a good Joker, but I'm sort of hoping the Batguys consider Vince Vaughn for that.

Pod
12-29-2005, 10:39 PM
Are you talking about the cook that had one eye? He took a beating from those worms, and dammit that makes me want to see him kick ass more. But isn't he a bit off looking for pengy? I mean, his gollum acting was great and he's a very good actor but still he doesn't really say Pengy, IMO. :o

DarrenJSeeley
12-29-2005, 10:54 PM
Yes, he had dual roles in Kong- Kong and Lumpy The slug eaten cook.

I say Serkis because he is no stranger to prosthetics, physically demanding roles, and he really gets into the part. Yes, his eyes, his odd, rough look...it could work in his favor.

Good with comedy, good with drama, rising actor. He's also near chameleon like. It would not surprise me in the least if Serkis was asked to do a C2F project in the future.

Pod
12-29-2005, 11:33 PM
It would not surprise me in the least if Serkis was asked to do a C2F project in the future.

Jarvis! He could play the Avengers butler! That would kick Alfred's butlering ass out of town! :P :wink:

norrinraad
12-30-2005, 02:03 PM
Latest casting rumour: Philip Seymour Hoffman. I like it alot actually. He has both the acting chops and the lumpen appearance. Good choice, I could see this happening.
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Jakerman
02-18-2006, 04:46 PM
Well Hoskins has said no, so that narrows it down a little. Although it's not confirmed Penguin will even be in the movie. :lol:

The Xenos
02-18-2006, 10:04 PM
Well, I just saw Bob Hoskins tonight in Mrs Henderson presents. (Saw quit a bit of him in fact. Whoo.) Anyway, he would have been very good, but if he doesn't want it, I'm sure there's someone else.

Sonic1002
02-19-2006, 02:52 PM
I saw him in Unleashed on Friday... he woulda been PERFECT. But, he don't the role, so sux for him...

Pod
02-19-2006, 06:34 PM
Keep plucking those seeds for some good actors...just get thier signiture on that contract and there ya go! :D