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Asonokirk V 2.0
04-27-2006, 02:43 AM
I believe I've stumbled across a perspective that might have some validity, and if what I am considering is true, then we might be following a line of reasoning that would explain a great many of the mysteries of life.

I've deduced that the concepts of evil and good can actually be found as physical presences within our awareness.

Evil is simply that which opposes life, and Good is simply that which is life.

"That which opposes life," or evil can be seen in the actions of viruses, natural disasters, war, crime, and within virtually all events involving matter and energy. For example, one soldier shoots another to death. The act of the firing of the bullet into the body of the victim actually occurs as a measurable event that has a physical presence. That force which exists as the physical cause of the event is the entire chain of actions that pre-determined the event. That interconnected sequence acted ultimately as the direct cause of death of the victim. Thus, this "force" is understanding the entire event sequence as merely a single event.

The "force" as I define above that acts to end or destroy life can be called simply "evil." I am not implying there is any consciousness involved, just that we can think of evil as that which opposes life.

Life, on the other hand is less easily fully defined, because some life masquerades as such but is really that which opposes life. It is best to think of it as growth+knowledge. So, if life is "growth+knowledge," then we can think of "good" as that which possesses the attributes surrounding the idea of "growth+knowledge."

Since something alive has a physical and measurable presence, "Good" is simply that force that is present within the observable actions involving that which is alive. If a baby is born, for example, "good" is involved as the sequence of physical and observable events that resulted in the baby's birth. This series of events can be thought of as a single event, and that event resulted in the creation of an additional living entity. This means that this event is "good" as the end result of the sequence is an addition to the number of things alive (i.e, "growth").

Taking this all one step further, imagine that the universe is one giant living thing. That it is something that exists as not separate parts as we see it, but as an interconnected conglomeration of matter and energy that perform a function in which all contributions are resulting in measurable and observable events. When I say "living thing" I don't mean biological life, I mean the fact that we have ongoing events that are measurable and observable means that we are observing actions driven by forces. These forces therefore act to produce a result. The sequence of observable actions that lead to the events is the "life" quality I'm assigning to the universe as a whole.

Ultimately this lead me to the idea that what some call "God" and what some call "Satan" are actually just those events manifested by the forces that acted, which resulted in the necessary outcomes dictated by the sequence of actions. In other words, God is that which are the forces leading to outcomes favorable to life, and Satan is that which are the forces whose existence as a sequence of actions leads to a measurable and observable event, an event that results in the reduction in the number of, or results in some form of interference with that which is life.

There doesn't have to be any intelligence behind any of this, and it is only really just touching upon a much more involved and complex series of ideas and perspectives to follow.

For now, this is as far as I can go with it.

Meathead
04-27-2006, 07:53 AM
Interesting take, Asonokirk v2.0.
Personally, I have no conrete, or even fluid notion of how these two opposing forces operate, but as soon as I get one, I'll let you know...nice thread!

fastcar
04-27-2006, 09:28 AM
I believe they are two sides of the same coin. Without one, the other could not exist. As long as they are in balance all will still occur as it should.

Jakester
04-27-2006, 10:12 AM
It's all aboot Prince of Darkness, man.

And, of course, Snakes on a Plane.

southpaw
04-27-2006, 12:11 PM
Admit it Kirk Jr. you get high ALOT don't you? I'm not judging you but you DO right?




If the answer is yes don't respond in the next 2 minutes.........

southpaw
04-27-2006, 12:17 PM
I totally KNEW it!





Rock on Asonokirk....ROCK ON!!!!! :)

Son of Gilbert
04-27-2006, 12:20 PM
hey Kirk my bag about to dry up, know where I can get some.

Asonokirk V 2.0
04-27-2006, 03:41 PM
Admit it Kirk Jr. you get high ALOT don't you? I'm not judging you but you DO right?




If the answer is yes don't respond in the next 2 minutes.........

Like, dude, what makes you think I, uh . . . what?
:)