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mediagirl42 · 05-10-2006, 03:25 PM

I am a Christian and I love Harry as do several other folks at my church. I listen to some of what the people who are so against them and I do not think that they read the same books I have or they haven't read them at all. I tell them Hey it is Fantasy, lighten up.

Rowanberry · 05-11-2006, 09:27 PM

The person who introduced me to the Harry Potter books in the first place is a Christian, and has absolutely no problems with them.

The ones who are against HP are extremists, people who even object the classic Cinderella story because of the fairy godmother, because "only God can perform miracles" and all "magic" is evil...

The same people condemn the Lord of the Rings just because there are elves and wizards and magic rings, and probably find even the Narnia stories blasphemous.

KingVoyeur · 05-12-2006, 01:07 PM

Just to the side of the topic....

I worked in a little bookstore in my hometown during high school, and one day this grandfather came in with his grandson looking for a book. We had a large children's section, so I thought I'd recommend some books. Mistake! The very first book I recommended was from the Animorphs series (kids who could change into animals) that was popular among kids at the time. The grandfather proceeded to go off on how those kinds of books were "blasphemous" and he didn't want his grandson reading that filth. My next recommendation was going to have been the first Harry Potter, but I opted to recommend some "safe" Hardy Boy books instead (which he ended up buying). Just for a laugh, I almost recommended one of the Buffy the Vampire novelizations, but he probably would've ripped me a new one! People really need to realize that it's just fiction and not freak out!

Tricksterson · 05-13-2006, 10:35 AM

Why did he consider Animorphs blasphemous? Never saw or read the series but AFAIK there's nothing supernatural about it.
The best example to me of how to handle whether or not to let your kids see/read HP movies/books was given to me by an acquaintance who's deacon of his church. His kids wanted to see the Sorceror's Stone movie on DVD. Before letting them see it he rented it and he watched it himself, concluded there was nothing wrong in it and has had no problems with the series since.

Queen Mae · 05-16-2006, 10:44 AM

wait wait wait, Tricks - you actually want people to think for themselves?

kawaiidragonfoe821 · 08-12-2006, 09:06 AM

Well, being someone who has lost faith in the church a loooong time ago (the CHURCH... not my personal faith, i still worship & love god, just not through a corupt establishment) I dont think that any religious orginization (especially the catholic est, who can't seem to get its preists to keep their hands off the alter boys & such has a right to lable something as good or bad per say.

Besides, if they knew ANYTHING about HP, that would know that some of JK's themes & characters are stemed from the bible (snakes being the symbol of great evil, etc). I have heard that the church doesn't like Narnia either, which CS Lewis' entire series has christian undertones.

I dont believe that ANYONE church leaders or otherwise has the right to 'lable' any one thing, being or person as 'evil' or 'bad', that is for god & god alone to do.

2koolk4u · 08-16-2006, 09:03 PM

all of it sucks it stinkks

Tricksterson · 08-21-2006, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Mae

wait wait wait, Tricks - you actually want people to think for themselves?

My religion has only two Commandments:

1: Think for yourself shmuck!

2: Thou shalt not eat hotdogs in a bun on Thursdays.

There was a third: Thou shalt not stuff 42 golf balls into thine toilet bowl, but it was tabled in commitee

Recently another was suggested and is up for consideration:

Thou shalt have as many gods, saints and spritual masters as you want before me, just don't let them block the exits. Oh and don't let them have the last beer, that's mine. Seriously.

kawaiidragonfoe821 · 09-07-2006, 10:21 AM

The church needs to get over itself, there are more corupt people in the church then there are in their members! I for one dont like being told by some fruit with a bible what is 'holy' & what is not because in my mind, only the lord can do that. I believe the 'original' practice was Judism (spelling) & that Christianity was adapted & brought over by the settlers that left England.

TrixieB · 10-03-2006, 05:44 PM

At my office most of the people are Christians and are not afraid to talk about their religion, almost to the point of proselytizing. Most of the time it doesn't bother me. However, when they start talking about Halloween and Harry Potter, they just kill me. Halloween and Harry Potter are evil. When pressed as to why they are evil, the answer is that they church told them so. None of them have read or seen Harry Potter, but their church told them it was bad, so it is.

And of course, Halloween is the Devil's holiday.... :dunno:

05-10-2006, 03:25 PM	#11
mediagirl42 Smell the untainted newbie freshness. Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 4	potter vs. the church I am a Christian and I love Harry as do several other folks at my church. I listen to some of what the people who are so against them and I do not think that they read the same books I have or they haven't read them at all. I tell them Hey it is Fantasy, lighten up.

05-11-2006, 09:27 PM	#12
Rowanberry Handle with extreme caution. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 192	The person who introduced me to the Harry Potter books in the first place is a Christian, and has absolutely no problems with them. The ones who are against HP are extremists, people who even object the classic Cinderella story because of the fairy godmother, because "only God can perform miracles" and all "magic" is evil... The same people condemn the Lord of the Rings just because there are elves and wizards and magic rings, and probably find even the Narnia stories blasphemous. __________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

05-12-2006, 01:07 PM	#13
KingVoyeur American Cthulu Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In some f*cked up dimension. They don't even have pie! Posts: 3,988	Just to the side of the topic.... I worked in a little bookstore in my hometown during high school, and one day this grandfather came in with his grandson looking for a book. We had a large children's section, so I thought I'd recommend some books. Mistake! The very first book I recommended was from the Animorphs series (kids who could change into animals) that was popular among kids at the time. The grandfather proceeded to go off on how those kinds of books were "blasphemous" and he didn't want his grandson reading that filth. My next recommendation was going to have been the first Harry Potter, but I opted to recommend some "safe" Hardy Boy books instead (which he ended up buying). Just for a laugh, I almost recommended one of the Buffy the Vampire novelizations, but he probably would've ripped me a new one! People really need to realize that it's just fiction and not freak out! __________________ "If you're referring to the one night we slept together, I'd talk about your cock but I've got respect for the dead!" - From *Vampire Lesbians of Sodom* by Charles Busch

08-12-2006, 09:06 AM	#16
kawaiidragonfoe821 Handle with extreme caution. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In a manilla folder in the X-Files filing cabinet. Posts: 100	Well, being someone who has lost faith in the church a loooong time ago (the CHURCH... not my personal faith, i still worship & love god, just not through a corupt establishment) I dont think that any religious orginization (especially the catholic est, who can't seem to get its preists to keep their hands off the alter boys & such has a right to lable something as good or bad per say. Besides, if they knew ANYTHING about HP, that would know that some of JK's themes & characters are stemed from the bible (snakes being the symbol of great evil, etc). I have heard that the church doesn't like Narnia either, which CS Lewis' entire series has christian undertones. I dont believe that ANYONE church leaders or otherwise has the right to 'lable' any one thing, being or person as 'evil' or 'bad', that is for god & god alone to do. __________________ Scully: Must be for the visually impaired. Mulder: How do you like that? A politically correct elevator.

08-16-2006, 09:03 PM	#17
2koolk4u Smell the untainted newbie freshness. Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1	not a good book or movie all of it sucks it stinkks

05-13-2006, 10:35 AM	#14
Tricksterson Two men enter, one man leaves. I kill man leaving & laugh. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 205	Why did he consider Animorphs blasphemous? Never saw or read the series but AFAIK there's nothing supernatural about it. The best example to me of how to handle whether or not to let your kids see/read HP movies/books was given to me by an acquaintance who's deacon of his church. His kids wanted to see the Sorceror's Stone movie on DVD. Before letting them see it he rented it and he watched it himself, concluded there was nothing wrong in it and has had no problems with the series since.

05-16-2006, 10:44 AM	#15
Queen Mae She doesn't know what she wants, but she wants it now! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Narcissistville Posts: 669	wait wait wait, Tricks - you actually want people to think for themselves?

09-07-2006, 10:21 AM	#19
kawaiidragonfoe821 Handle with extreme caution. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In a manilla folder in the X-Files filing cabinet. Posts: 100	The church needs to get over itself, there are more corupt people in the church then there are in their members! I for one dont like being told by some fruit with a bible what is 'holy' & what is not because in my mind, only the lord can do that. I believe the 'original' practice was Judism (spelling) & that Christianity was adapted & brought over by the settlers that left England. __________________ Scully: Must be for the visually impaired. Mulder: How do you like that? A politically correct elevator.

10-03-2006, 05:44 PM	#20
TrixieB Took the purple pill and loved the after-effects. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zipping around in my Zippy car!! Posts: 1,328	At my office most of the people are Christians and are not afraid to talk about their religion, almost to the point of proselytizing. Most of the time it doesn't bother me. However, when they start talking about Halloween and Harry Potter, they just kill me. Halloween and Harry Potter are evil. When pressed as to why they are evil, the answer is that they church told them so. None of them have read or seen Harry Potter, but their church told them it was bad, so it is. And of course, Halloween is the Devil's holiday.... :dunno: __________________ _________________________________________________ "Dinner and bondage? Works for me."

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