Pretty amazing fact

[Kaeos]

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

[Intelligent_Design]

Originally Posted by fastcar

Which do you see happening first?


A female President?

A non-caucasian President?

The National Debt zeroed out?

I'll go with number 4 (Hell Frozen over)

[kah]

Originally Posted by Bark

You know how they say, "Never say never," about stuff. I'm saying never.

Hillary Clinton will NEVER be President.

I really hope you are right. I agree with you, but on rare occasions I have been known to be, well, not wrong, but not entirely right.

[American]

I doubt Hillary will get into the Oval Office. Too many skeletons in her closet. But enough about female presidents...what about a thrid party candidate?

[Jakester]

I was gonna go with "American getting laid," but decided that the debt getting zeroed out is more likely to happen first.

[Space Tycoon]

I can see a nonwhite President being elected before a woman president. It will probably be a conservative who is moderate on certain social issues, but also perceived as strong on "defence" i.e., willing to bomb the right foreigners. Not an Alan Keyes, something more like Colin Powell back before he was a water-carrier for the cakewalk crowd. Or indeed, any number of ambitious up-and-coming Latino Republicans.

In fact, I could even see a right-of-centre East Asian- or South Asian-American filling the bill. Demographically speaking, most Asian-Americans are very patriotic and vote Republican, for a variety of reasons. A centre-right presidential nominee who was Korean, for example, would have appeal across the ethnic spectrum.

A woman president could very possibly be elected, but in this case most likely a liberal. Again, one who is pro-interventionist. Hilary Clinton, believe it or not, has been casting herself in the image of a neo-hawk, talking tough about Iran, saying all the right things to the Israel lobby, even playing footsie with Newt Gingrich and certain Republicans.

Personally, I am, generally speaking, not a fan of female politicians--Margaret Thatcher and Hazel McCallion being two shining exceptions. Living in Canada, we've had to endure many elected women officials, at all levels of government. I have not been impressed. More often than not, they are overly emotional (sometimes to the point of hysteria), bitter, sanctimonious crusaders for any number of trivial, trendy causes to come down the pike. Is it any wonder that the welfare state, in all it's bloated glory, came into being around the same time as women started voting?

Most woman politicians simply are not tough enough for the job. Neither are many of their male colleagues, of course. No, in my opinion, the ideal leadership role a woman can play in any healthy society is as a good wife and mother. I am not advocating the repeal of universal suffrage, I'm just saying, don't be fooled into thinking that a Mrs.--sorry, Ms. President would be some Great Leap Forward for America. I doubt I could seriously vote for one.

Anyway, off the soapbox for now.

As far as eradicating the national debt... don't make me laugh. :green:

[Intelligent_Design]

Originally Posted by Space Tycoon

Or indeed, any number of ambitious up-and-coming Latino Republicans.

See George_P._Bush

[Scotia]

Originally Posted by Space Tycoon

Living in Canada, we've had to endure many elected women officials, at all levels of government. I have not been impressed. More often than not, they are overly emotional (sometimes to the point of hysteria), bitter, sanctimonious crusaders for any number of trivial, trendy causes to come down the pike.

The same could be said about any politician with or without the nutsack. Hell, Peter McKay got all emotional and pretty bitter with Alexa McDonough last week. She, however, played it cool like a seasoned pro. It's all about perspective. Those qualities we recognize as strength and perseverance do not suddenly become negative attributes when demonstrated by women. I mean, come on.

But I am curious ST. What are those trendy, trival causes that women tend to get behind?

No, in my opinion, the ideal leadership role a woman can play in any healthy society is as a good wife and mother.

That must go over well at the bar.

[MPG]

Originally Posted by Bark

You know how they say, "Never say never," about stuff. I'm saying never.

Hillary Clinton will NEVER be President.

You're forgetting that the US is the country where George W. Bush was elected as President. Apparently, anything is possible.

[Space Tycoon]

Originally Posted by Scotia

But I am curious ST. What are those trendy, trival causes that women tend to get behind?

Socialized medicine, socialized daycare, socialized education, social engineering generally. Gun control, capitalism-bashing, emasculating the military, and don't forget, abortions for all. It is very hard to find a woman politician who won't fight passionately to dismantle hundreds of years worth of traditional values.

That must go over well at the bar.

LOL Some women are actually still impressed with honesty. But I've long since given up looking for a good woman at "the bar." For that matter, dating in general is a waste of time once you get past 30. Single women today are for the most part, very low quality. They get their values (as well as, apparently, their level of language) from Sex and the City and rarely question the feminist dogma they have been indoctrinated into.


IMO.