Pretty amazing fact

[Intelligent_Design]

Originally Posted by Space Tycoon

There doesn't seem to be all that much to know, frankly. I don't like royalism in politics. I like self-made, tough outsiders who think for themselves and take risks. Not pampered frat boys who have never created anything or been shot at in anger.
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So from this I take it you are a big supporter of dictatorships? Since they usally rise to power being " self-made, tough outsiders who think for themselves and take risks."

[Space Tycoon]

Usually, I would support democracy. However, under certain circumstances, there are some dictators I would defend. Democracy may be "nicer," but it does not always reward the brave.

But you knew that already, didn't you. :winks:

[Scotia]

Originally Posted by Space Tycoon

Socialized medicine, socialized daycare, socialized education, social engineering generally. Gun control, capitalism-bashing, emasculating the military, and don't forget, abortions for all. It is very hard to find a woman politician who won't fight passionately to dismantle hundreds of years worth of traditional values.

LOL, women are the source of all your problems Spacey. I recommend you try being gay.

Seriously thou. None of the issues you mention, save for abortion, are gender specific. Universal health care and government funded education are items that draw support from both sexes and have become part of the Canadian cultural fabric. They're traditional values, you might say. You could also say that those who call for their dismantling sound a tad bitter and sanctimonious. It all depends on where you sit, I guess.

LOL Some women are actually still impressed with honesty. But I've long since given up looking for a good woman at "the bar." For that matter, dating in general is a waste of time once you get past 30. Single women today are for the most part, very low quality. They get their values (as well as, apparently, their level of language) from Sex and the City and rarely question the feminist dogma they have been indoctrinated into.

I don't know how to respond to that one. Sounds like you've been burned before real good. Chin up, my main man. She's out there somewhere.

[Intelligent_Design]

Originally Posted by Space Tycoon

Usually, I would support democracy. However, under certain circumstances, there are some dictators I would defend.

I can't let you get any further without asking you for some examples of " some dictators I would defend". I know that might seem like a loaded Question but trust me if you make a compelling enough argument I would be forced to agree with you.:winks:

[TrixieB]

LOL Some women are actually still impressed with honesty. But I've long since given up looking for a good woman at "the bar." For that matter, dating in general is a waste of time once you get past 30. Single women today are for the most part, very low quality. They get their values (as well as, apparently, their level of language) from Sex and the City and rarely question the feminist dogma they have been indoctrinated into.

Speaking as a woman over 30, I can tell you that I have never watched Sex and the City and my "dogma" has been developed through my own experience and research. Please refrain from stereotyping millions of women because of a few that you happen to have met.

[Space Tycoon]

Originally Posted by Intelligent_Design

I can't let you get any further without asking you for some examples of " some dictators I would defend". I know that might seem like a loaded Question but trust me if you make a compelling enough argument I would be forced to agree with you.:winks:

Well, I would say in wartime, when faced with a massive existential threat, such as the old Soviet Union, a case could be made that lesser dictatorships, or states bordering on dictatorsip, had to be supported to contain that threat.

I suppose off the top of my head, South Vietnam during the 1960's comes to mind. Also the regime of Zia ul-Haq in Pakistan during the 1980's. Regimes like that could certainly be brutal at times, but they were the only thing standing in the way of Russian domination of Asia--which was a very real threat.

The problem is that this policy has never really been revoked, even following the collapse of the USSR. People have been conditioned to fear terrorism (which is nowhere near as threatening as communism) so fully that our own society has taken on many of the characteristics of a dictatorship. And of course we continue to support some pretty awful regimes and look the other way when they commit atrocities when it is in our interest. Which is why I would tend to favour democracy, with all of it's hypocrisy and shortcomings.

[Space Tycoon]

Seriously thou. None of the issues you mention, save for abortion, are gender specific. Universal health care and government funded education are items that draw support from both sexes and have become part of the Canadian cultural fabric. They're traditional values, you might say.

Well, they really aren't, but they seem to have taken on that aura with many people in Canada, usually on the left. I find it disturbing whenever people are conditioned to think of central government programs and policies as "traditional values." There is a totalitarian impulse embedded in that way of thinking. The Communists under Stalin appealed to Russian patriotism and the "Motherland" to further cement their grip on power, as did other such regimes.

You could also say that those who call for their dismantling sound a tad bitter and sanctimonious. It all depends on where you sit, I guess.

At times, some can be, sure. The whole tone and character of political debate has shifted into a whiny pitch, all around, which is something that has to change.

[American]

Originally Posted by Space Tycoon

Most woman politicians simply are not tough enough for the job. Neither are many of their male colleagues, of course. No, in my opinion, the ideal leadership role a woman can play in any healthy society is as a good wife and mother.

If Condi can deal with the international assholes, then certainly she can handle the Presidency.

Originally Posted by Kaeos

I'll take that bet.

My money is on Barack Obama http://obama.senate.gov/

Obama...maybe. He is new to the American Political Arena. He needs to toughen his skin and gain political capital. Only then will he be able to advance.

I voted for him when he ran for Senator because he was new to politics, which led me to conclude he was not corrupt. Maybe a couple more terms as Senator and he'll be ready

[Kaeos]

Originally Posted by American

If Condi can deal with the international assholes, then certainly she can handle the Presidency.

To me (putting aside political bias for a moment) she's got the same problems fitting in the role right now as Obama. 1) No tenure 2) No clout poltically.

Some day, maybe she could be a contender. Right now playing the part she playes in Bush's deck of cards, she has no voice of her own.

Similarly, Obama is known as a fresh face to the arena. If he can distance himself from a lot of the problems the Dems have brought on themselves and come out with a strong voice of his own. Definately see him being elected.

[Sgt. Awesome]

I can't see Condi getting elected. The Americans will have a minority President at some point. They will also have a woman President at some point. But probably not both at the same time. You guys are socially behind us - so we've gotta have a minority leader (non-white... not a leader in a minority government, we've got that now. He's a robot, does that count as a minority?) before you do. It's way more likely up here.