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WhiteKnight · 01-16-2008, 10:27 AM

People on the main page are making noise about the organization behind Le Chiffre being S.P.E.C.T.R.E. again. One, it's codswallop! Two, why the hell do people want to see them back to begin with?! Any insight here would be appreciated.

Kara Milovy · 01-16-2008, 07:03 PM

Eon has coyly not answered when asked this directly, leaving the fan base open to rumors.

What people really want is a continuing villain of some kind. It makes the movies less predictable. I mean, back when there was SPECTRE, it wasn't invincible James Bond vs. inevitably defeated Anyone Else. Sure, that movie's villain bit it, but a larger villain still lurked, and that added tension and excitement. SPECTRE represents all that.

neglet · 01-17-2008, 04:52 AM

Plus it makes the plot a little more distinctive. Other action heroes routinely battle against terrorists, or criminals, or even their own governments (a la Jason Bourne). The latter option isn't available to Bond--licenced to kill by Her Majesty's government is part of his allure, after all--so how do we distinguish Bond from John McClane or Ethan Hunt or any of their counterparts? One way is to create a global criminal conspiracy larger than any of the other heroes' opponents. It's another way of making Bond larger than life and setting him apart from the rest.

WhiteKnight · 01-17-2008, 06:29 AM

And the creation of a wholely original criminal organization can't accomplish this? Why rehash? Forge ahead, I say!

Kara Milovy · 01-17-2008, 11:03 AM

It's possible...it's even likely. We'll see.

TrekSucksHard · 01-18-2008, 01:34 AM

I don't mind SPECTRE coming back just so as long as they put a different take on it- the old club of laughing maniacal villains in their multi-billion dollar secret bases (along with dim-witted henchmen who can't shoot straight) trying to take over the world has been done to the point of parody (Dr. Evil, anyone?)...

Daltons Chin Dimple · 01-18-2008, 03:13 AM

I think the Sony angle makes it interesting as that might circumvent the "McClory Question" somewhat, but I am no legal expert.

I agree that the organisation probably shouldn't be SPECTRE. It would be cool for one movie, but then it would be too hard to keep it clear of the parody.

JuneGirl · 01-22-2008, 03:57 PM

i think it would be awesome to have bond(craig) go up against spectre. all they have to do is keep the serious modern tone like they did with the last movie.

UNCLEagent · 01-22-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JuneGirl

i think it would be awesome to have bond(craig) go up against spectre. all they have to do is keep the serious modern tone like they did with the last movie.

I fully agree. Now that we've established a fresh new reboot with Craig's Bond, let's start introducing more of the traditional Bondian elements, making them fresh again. SPECTRE's on the top of the list, as are the gunbarrel sequence, Monty Norman's score and Q and Moneypenny.

Welcome aboard, June!

Martini97 · 01-24-2008, 01:24 PM

I'm accustomed with not having Q. Don't get me wrong his one of my favorite characters. However, It really wouldn't make a difference to me if they brought Q back.

As for SPECTRE..Arnold Vosoloo http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/74/27/12m.jpg
Reminds of my favorite portrayal of Blofeld (OHMSS). I can picture him going head to head with Craig's Bond.

01-16-2008, 10:27 AM	#1
WhiteKnight Fear the Numbers Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Clearfield County, Pennsylvania Posts: 515	S.p.e.c.t.r.e People on the main page are making noise about the organization behind Le Chiffre being S.P.E.C.T.R.E. again. One, it's codswallop! Two, why the hell do people want to see them back to begin with?! Any insight here would be appreciated.

01-16-2008, 07:03 PM	#2
Kara Milovy Bond Girl Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 960	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e Eon has coyly not answered when asked this directly, leaving the fan base open to rumors. What people really want is a continuing villain of some kind. It makes the movies less predictable. I mean, back when there was SPECTRE, it wasn't invincible James Bond vs. inevitably defeated Anyone Else. Sure, that movie's villain bit it, but a larger villain still lurked, and that added tension and excitement. SPECTRE represents all that. __________________ If you can't walk, you crawl, and if you can't do that, you find someone to carry you. The Ultimate James Bond Fan Blog: No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to blog!

01-17-2008, 04:52 AM	#3
neglet Queen of the Nerds Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Land of the Hand--Michigan! Posts: 4,723	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e Plus it makes the plot a little more distinctive. Other action heroes routinely battle against terrorists, or criminals, or even their own governments (a la Jason Bourne). The latter option isn't available to Bond--licenced to kill by Her Majesty's government is part of his allure, after all--so how do we distinguish Bond from John McClane or Ethan Hunt or any of their counterparts? One way is to create a global criminal conspiracy larger than any of the other heroes' opponents. It's another way of making Bond larger than life and setting him apart from the rest. __________________ "O fan from me the witless chaff of such a writer!" --Shakespeare

01-17-2008, 06:29 AM	#4
WhiteKnight Fear the Numbers Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Clearfield County, Pennsylvania Posts: 515	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e And the creation of a wholely original criminal organization can't accomplish this? Why rehash? Forge ahead, I say!

01-17-2008, 11:03 AM	#5
Kara Milovy Bond Girl Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 960	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e It's possible...it's even likely. We'll see. __________________ If you can't walk, you crawl, and if you can't do that, you find someone to carry you. The Ultimate James Bond Fan Blog: No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to blog!

01-18-2008, 01:34 AM	#6
TrekSucksHard Fired from Disney for Disturbing Cartoons. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In Your Face Posts: 460	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e I don't mind SPECTRE coming back just so as long as they put a different take on it- the old club of laughing maniacal villains in their multi-billion dollar secret bases (along with dim-witted henchmen who can't shoot straight) trying to take over the world has been done to the point of parody (Dr. Evil, anyone?)... __________________ What's the difference between tstone and his messiah, Barack Obama? -One writes about nothing and the other talks about nothing!

01-18-2008, 03:13 AM	#7
Daltons Chin Dimple In love with my remote control. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,130	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e I think the Sony angle makes it interesting as that might circumvent the "McClory Question" somewhat, but I am no legal expert. I agree that the organisation probably shouldn't be SPECTRE. It would be cool for one movie, but then it would be too hard to keep it clear of the parody.

01-22-2008, 03:57 PM	#8
JuneGirl Smell the untainted newbie freshness. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 26	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e i think it would be awesome to have bond(craig) go up against spectre. all they have to do is keep the serious modern tone like they did with the last movie.

01-24-2008, 01:24 PM	#10
Martini97 Smell the untainted newbie freshness. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Classified Posts: 41	Re: S.p.e.c.t.r.e I'm accustomed with not having Q. Don't get me wrong his one of my favorite characters. However, It really wouldn't make a difference to me if they brought Q back. As for SPECTRE..Arnold Vosoloo http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/74/27/12m.jpg Reminds of my favorite portrayal of Blofeld (OHMSS). I can picture him going head to head with Craig's Bond. __________________ *Regret is a waste of time, as is gloating.:jump:* - Thomas Crown, Thomas Crown Affair

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