Sub Mariner Casting - Part 2

[brokenstatue2001]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Don't get me wrong: I can see and understand why you would think that, oh brokenone! From the business stand point of it, it makes good sense. He's become an out and out action star. But I feel not only that Urban has that look, but he's such a good actor, that this is a film that needs to really think on THAT aspect more so than who or what action star would be a really good box office draw. Take what's going on with the Fantastic Four film. They are casting people in the roles that they feel are absolutely appropriate, even if people are not agreeing with it. In the case of a Sub-Mariner film, it's something that even MORE so you need an actor who's absolutely right for the role of Namor.......because it's based on a comic that, even though it's been around for 65 years, not too many people are aware of it (unless your a WW2 baby or a baby boomer, that read Sub-Mariner comics during the 60's when they brought him back out of mothballs). I'm sure you've seen the LOTR series. If you haven't seen it for a while, check it out again, and watch Urban's performance in The Two Towers, where he makes his first appearance. The scene that I feel REALLY would most capture Namor, is when he and his soldiers surround Aragorn and the elf and dwarf. He SO commands that scene, and gives such a strong performance, that I saw then and there that this guy would make a great Namor. The scene in which he's thrown out of Rohan, where he threatens Wormtounge, is also beautifully done, as well. I think he'd be great in the role.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I'm sure that Rocky would be a big box office draw, but I also think that he would be a good fit for the part, too. I think he would play Namor like a cross between his in-ring persona and the Scorpion King. I'm sure if you watched "The Scorpion King" again you would see my point, also, keep in mind that The Rock has grown as an actor since then. As for Urban, well, it's been a couple years since I saw "The Two Towers", so I'm not as familiar as you guys seem to be. (Since "Return of the King", I vowed not to see another "LotR" movie, those movies drag on forever.) But, I might go to Blockbuster after work and check it out, just to see if it will change my mind. But, I doubt it.

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[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Take what's going on with the Fantastic Four film. They are casting people in the roles that they feel are absolutely appropriate, even if people are not agreeing with it. In the case of a Sub-Mariner film, it's something that even MORE so you need an actor who's absolutely right for the role of Namor.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's why Matt Damon would be the best candidate for the part! He can even recreate those classic battles with Daredevil, fighting his old chum Ben Affleck.


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[MarcoPolo]

I couldn't disagree with you more on your choice of casting Matt Damon as Namour, Welsh. I don't know what gave you the idea that he fits the profile in any way. He is a great actor and all, but I can't ever see him as The Sub-Mariner.

[norrinraad]

Matt Damon has been the #1 choice for Namor on these boards for many years! Some of you may have missed the huge C2F promotional campiagn we had back in '97 when we first heard rumours of this movie. Matt Damon embodies Namor better than any actor living, any actor who has lived, and any actor who may someday be born. He is so appropriate for Namor it's almost uncanny. He has always been and will always be our very first choice, especially Bigkid who has threatened to boycott the film if Damon is not cast!

[Bigkid]

ALL RIGHT!! ALLL RIIGGHHTT, NOWW YOU GUYS!!
YOU CAN JUST KNOCK THAT OFF RIGHT NOW!!

MarcoPolo...... I'm sure you must've picked up by now from Norrinradd's last post that he's been JOSHING with you! And don't worry..... there's NO WAY IN HELL that I've been enamored with Damon to play Namor!!

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brokenstatue2001:
<B> Well, I'm sure that Rocky would be a big box office draw, but I also think that he would be a good fit for the part, too. I think he would play Namor like a cross between his in-ring persona and the Scorpion King. I'm sure if you watched "The Scorpion King" again you would see my point, also, keep in mind that The Rock has grown as an actor since then. As for Urban, well, it's been a couple years since I saw "The Two Towers", so I'm not as familiar as you guys seem to be. (Since "Return of the King", I vowed not to see another "LotR" movie, those movies drag on forever.) But, I might go to Blockbuster after work and check it out, just to see if it will change my mind. But, I doubt it.

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I feel like you as well: The Rock HAS grown as an actor, and I feel that he does present that aura of princely nobility very well that would make Namor come to life. But my point is, is that Urban's a much better actor than he, and that because he IS so good, I don't think that people will feel, when they would see him in this role.... "Oh, look! It's Karl Urban"! Whereas people would look at Rock and basically feel that it's the former wrestler. I think from film role to film role Urban has done a great job disappearing into the skin of his characters....... a quality that Rock man just hasn't been able to aquire as yet.

[Bigkid]

Plus.....let's keep something else in mind here: This film is slated for an '06 release date, and they don't even indicate if this is being thought of as an early year, summer, or Holiday film. A lot can happen in 2 years. Rock might not last as a box office draw in the next couple of years. Urban's stock could go thru the roof, and he might have more demands than, let's say, Sharon Stone to do the film...... or, Rock could become an even huger star than he is NOW, but might not be able to do the film due to scheduling conflicts. OR...... a complete unknown comes out of the woodwork and snatches the role from BOTH of them. There are TOO many variables to think of here....... but I think, actually, it's a good dilemma to have, considering that there were SO many comic fans who felt that this comic should NOT be made into a live action film in the first place! Sub-Mariner's come a long way, baby!

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
I couldn't disagree with you more on your choice of casting Matt Damon as Namour, Welsh. I don't know what gave you the idea that he fits the profile in any way. He is a great actor and all, but I can't ever see him as The Sub-Mariner.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't believe what BigKid says about not wanting Namor. He's just being modest, and too shy to admit that it was actually him who first suggested Damon as Namor after seeing him in his green swimming trunks in The Talented Mr Ripley. Why, BigKid even observed that if you reverse Damon, you get Nomad, which is almost an anagram for Namor. So I really can't take credit for that suggestion, but thanks anyway for the disagreement.

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[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> Don't believe what BigKid says about not wanting Namor. He's just being modest, and too shy to admit that it was actually him who first suggested Damon as Namor after seeing him in his green swimming trunks in The Talented Mr Ripley. Why, BigKid even observed that if you reverse Damon, you get Nomad, which is almost an anagram for Namor. So I really can't take credit for that suggestion, but thanks anyway for the disagreement.

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WELSHY! YER KILLIN ME MAN! KILLIN ME!!

You're going to RUIN my reputation here as someone that has good opinions!!

No, seriously...... I'm NOT into having Matt Damon as Namor. And by the way, if you spell his name BACKWARDS, you ALMOST get:
NOMAD.

Which, actually, Namor is, in many ways, at one point wandering the world, looking for his place in it when he wasn't in Atlantis, so........

HEY!! DON'T TRY TO TALK ME INTO RE-CONSIDERING DAMON!! HE'S WRONG FOR THE ROLE!!

[MarcoPolo]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
Matt Damon has been the #1 choice for Namor on these boards for many years! Some of you may have missed the huge C2F promotional campiagn we had back in '97 when we first heard rumours of this movie. Matt Damon embodies Namor better than any actor living, any actor who has lived, and any actor who may someday be born. He is so appropriate for Namor it's almost uncanny. He has always been and will always be our very first choice, especially Bigkid who has threatened to boycott the film if Damon is not cast! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate to brake it to you and Welsh, but the "We want Damon for Namor" group consists soley of you two missguided souls. There is a new sherif in town boys, and his name is "Karl Urban".