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WC · 04-19-2003, 05:31 PM

I think I remember once reading a rumour that a Smallville-type Spider-Man series was planned, called simply "Peter Parker", which would take us through his transformation from nerd to hero at a much slower pace.

I'd personally like to see something like that - it's been a long time since Spidey has been on tv, and this would be one way of not overlapping with the movies, by focussing on Peter Parker. The only thing I wonder is how a series like this could actually work, since a slow transformation would mean we'd essentially see a Peter Parker without powers for a few weeks at least.

What do others think about such a series, if this topic hasn't already been raised before?

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Frostbite · 04-19-2003, 06:01 PM

That would be good, but unlikely.

NEXT!

kvdp_blade · 04-19-2003, 11:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
<B>That would be good, but unlikely.

NEXT!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! I guess Frostbite is the final word.

ModeMan · 04-20-2003, 12:54 AM

He's supposed to have an animated series on MTV this summer. So it's very doubtful. Plus, why would you have a live action series while you're producing a live action movie trilogy? It's useless. So we'd have to get to know a different actor as Spider-man while watching Maguire, we'd have to accept a different origin story-line and disregard the movie one, and probably a bunch of other crap that would help mess up the movie experience. So I'm not for it.
We have a live-action Spider-man. It's Tobey Maguire.

WC · 04-20-2003, 09:54 AM

But it wouldn't be Spider-Man as such. I think the idea is not to have the costume, a la Smallville. So while we would see both Spidey and Peter Parker on the big screen in the form of Tobey Maguire, the tv series would focus on a different aspect of Parker or on a Peter Parker as he was before becoming Spidey officially. And there could be room for that without treading on the movies. After all, if a tv series and a movie about the same theme should never be running simultaneously, then why is there all this talk of a new Superman film if there is already a Superman tv series called Smallville?

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norrinraad · 04-20-2003, 12:00 PM

I see where you're coming from, kind of like a Wonder Years only with Peter Parker, before he got the powers. It's a nifty idea but I don't know if the general public would care about the exploits of a pre-Spider-Man Peter Parker. Plus, how to differentiate it from the glut of coming-of-age shows we already have? And of course, if the show addressed a young PP after he got the powers, it would be directly competing with the movie trilogy because it too showed Peter right after the spider bite. It's a pretty good idea but it needs to be fleshed out a bit more.

WC · 04-20-2003, 03:28 PM

Well at least such a show might be able to focus more fully on characters like Gwen Stacey, Mary Jane, Harry Osborne and Flash Thompson, giving you more of an insight into their personalities. In the movie, we saw hardly anything of Flash, while there was nothing at all about Gwen. We might be able to see how Peter had to cope with loneliness and being bullied in more detail than the movie, which was really a whistle-stop tour of the comics.

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swingerbone · 04-20-2003, 04:11 PM

Maybe... but according to comics lore, of the characters you mentioned, only Flash knew him pre-Spidey.... He was only Pre-Spidey PP in AF15 for a few pages anyway... but maybe more stories dealing with his powers in Highschool like in Ultimate Spider-Man could work. They bring in all the characters you mentioned.

But I agree that it would be awkward to the general public to have to differentiate between TV Peter Parker/Spider-Man and movie Peter Parker/Spider-man.

Part of why Smallville works is that it has been a while since Superman was in the media. The last Supes movie was in 1987 and aside from the cartoons, the last time a live Superman graced TV was Dean Cain in Lois & Clark. Maybe this is why they are having such a tough time getting a new Superman movie going. I agree with some fellow fans that they should wait until Smallville ends and then the series finale of Smallville would lead to a summer blockbuster Superman movie starring Tom Welling.... but I doubt WB would wait for that... they want the Superman cash cow like yesterday... I think they are afraid that the comics2film burst of energy is petering out (no pun intended).

Maybe this is why Ratner wanted out... WB has faltered too often with it's DC properties. Marvel is fairing a lot better by distributing their IP among multiple studios. I fear many people see Daredevil as evidence that this comics ship is sinking... but DD was never a frontrunner in comics anyway. Not trying to detract from him though... he has had more than his share of talent working on him... but DD isn't in the public's awareness to the extent of the big three: Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man.

I just hoop the Spidey franchise keeps doing things right.

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MarvelKid18 · 04-21-2003, 03:14 PM

Hey, I'm a Spidey fan like most people here, but am I alone in thinking this whole Spider-Man in High School bit is an awful idea? I mean, how boring would that be? I understand Smallville is working out, and I'm not going to bag the show cause it's not terrible, it's just not my thing. But not only is this idea just a bad rip-off of Smallville, but it would make for a very unentertaining show. Peter Parker isn't the most exciting guy in the world, that's why he makes a good balance for Spidey. Superman and Clark Kent are pretty much the same exact thing. They don't act too much different. But Spider-Man is a complete opposite. He's one person in the suit, and another without it. Without that balance, Parker is a pretty boring guy. Plus, I still expect Smallville to become another Dawson's Creek any day now, so we gotta factor that into this idea...

Anyway... MTV is to Spider-Man what WB is to Batman... they just need to leave the other ALONE...

mallratX2 · 04-22-2003, 04:26 PM

hey everyone here know that i am a strong anti-mtv spider-man person, but Marvelkid, are you telling me that you didn't like batman the animated series??? that is my all time favorite animated show, i love it, the writing was incredible and i can't wait until mystery of the batwoman comes out.

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04-19-2003, 05:31 PM	#1
WC Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,836	I think I remember once reading a rumour that a Smallville-type Spider-Man series was planned, called simply "Peter Parker", which would take us through his transformation from nerd to hero at a much slower pace. I'd personally like to see something like that - it's been a long time since Spidey has been on tv, and this would be one way of not overlapping with the movies, by focussing on Peter Parker. The only thing I wonder is how a series like this could actually work, since a slow transformation would mean we'd essentially see a Peter Parker without powers for a few weeks at least. What do others think about such a series, if this topic hasn't already been raised before? ------------------ Meoww! Send in the clowns!

04-19-2003, 06:01 PM	#2
Frostbite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 558	That would be good, but unlikely. NEXT!

04-19-2003, 11:10 PM	#3
kvdp_blade Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 45	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite: <B>That would be good, but unlikely. NEXT!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LOL! I guess Frostbite is the final word.

04-20-2003, 12:54 AM	#4
ModeMan Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 229	He's supposed to have an animated series on MTV this summer. So it's very doubtful. Plus, why would you have a live action series while you're producing a live action movie trilogy? It's useless. So we'd have to get to know a different actor as Spider-man while watching Maguire, we'd have to accept a different origin story-line and disregard the movie one, and probably a bunch of other crap that would help mess up the movie experience. So I'm not for it. We have a live-action Spider-man. It's Tobey Maguire.

04-20-2003, 09:54 AM	#5
WC Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,836	But it wouldn't be Spider-Man as such. I think the idea is not to have the costume, a la Smallville. So while we would see both Spidey and Peter Parker on the big screen in the form of Tobey Maguire, the tv series would focus on a different aspect of Parker or on a Peter Parker as he was before becoming Spidey officially. And there could be room for that without treading on the movies. After all, if a tv series and a movie about the same theme should never be running simultaneously, then why is there all this talk of a new Superman film if there is already a Superman tv series called Smallville? ------------------ Meoww! Send in the clowns!

04-20-2003, 12:00 PM	#6
norrinraad Fantasizes about Ghost Rider wearing leather chaps. Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 803	I see where you're coming from, kind of like a Wonder Years only with Peter Parker, before he got the powers. It's a nifty idea but I don't know if the general public would care about the exploits of a pre-Spider-Man Peter Parker. Plus, how to differentiate it from the glut of coming-of-age shows we already have? And of course, if the show addressed a young PP after he got the powers, it would be directly competing with the movie trilogy because it too showed Peter right after the spider bite. It's a pretty good idea but it needs to be fleshed out a bit more.

04-20-2003, 03:28 PM	#7
WC Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,836	Well at least such a show might be able to focus more fully on characters like Gwen Stacey, Mary Jane, Harry Osborne and Flash Thompson, giving you more of an insight into their personalities. In the movie, we saw hardly anything of Flash, while there was nothing at all about Gwen. We might be able to see how Peter had to cope with loneliness and being bullied in more detail than the movie, which was really a whistle-stop tour of the comics. ------------------ Meoww! Send in the clowns!

04-20-2003, 04:11 PM	#8
swingerbone Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 170	Maybe... but according to comics lore, of the characters you mentioned, only Flash knew him pre-Spidey.... He was only Pre-Spidey PP in AF15 for a few pages anyway... but maybe more stories dealing with his powers in Highschool like in Ultimate Spider-Man could work. They bring in all the characters you mentioned. But I agree that it would be awkward to the general public to have to differentiate between TV Peter Parker/Spider-Man and movie Peter Parker/Spider-man. Part of why Smallville works is that it has been a while since Superman was in the media. The last Supes movie was in 1987 and aside from the cartoons, the last time a live Superman graced TV was Dean Cain in Lois & Clark. Maybe this is why they are having such a tough time getting a new Superman movie going. I agree with some fellow fans that they should wait until Smallville ends and then the series finale of Smallville would lead to a summer blockbuster Superman movie starring Tom Welling.... but I doubt WB would wait for that... they want the Superman cash cow like yesterday... I think they are afraid that the comics2film burst of energy is petering out (no pun intended). Maybe this is why Ratner wanted out... WB has faltered too often with it's DC properties. Marvel is fairing a lot better by distributing their IP among multiple studios. I fear many people see Daredevil as evidence that this comics ship is sinking... but DD was never a frontrunner in comics anyway. Not trying to detract from him though... he has had more than his share of talent working on him... but DD isn't in the public's awareness to the extent of the big three: Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. I just hoop the Spidey franchise keeps doing things right. [This message has been edited by swingerbone (edited 04-20-2003).]

04-21-2003, 03:14 PM	#9
MarvelKid18 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 107	Hey, I'm a Spidey fan like most people here, but am I alone in thinking this whole Spider-Man in High School bit is an awful idea? I mean, how boring would that be? I understand Smallville is working out, and I'm not going to bag the show cause it's not terrible, it's just not my thing. But not only is this idea just a bad rip-off of Smallville, but it would make for a very unentertaining show. Peter Parker isn't the most exciting guy in the world, that's why he makes a good balance for Spidey. Superman and Clark Kent are pretty much the same exact thing. They don't act too much different. But Spider-Man is a complete opposite. He's one person in the suit, and another without it. Without that balance, Parker is a pretty boring guy. Plus, I still expect Smallville to become another Dawson's Creek any day now, so we gotta factor that into this idea... Anyway... MTV is to Spider-Man what WB is to Batman... they just need to leave the other ALONE...

04-22-2003, 04:26 PM	#10
mallratX2 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 79	hey everyone here know that i am a strong anti-mtv spider-man person, but Marvelkid, are you telling me that you didn't like batman the animated series??? that is my all time favorite animated show, i love it, the writing was incredible and i can't wait until mystery of the batwoman comes out. ------------------ "Are you seriously telling me you don't recognize this traitor? It's..." "Cyclops, baby. Don't wear it out." [This message has been edited by mallratX2 (edited 04-22-2003).]