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dperceful · 11-01-2003, 02:18 PM

well this years DCG Awards is done and over with. now is the time to speak your mind....what did you think of the process? what would you have changed? how would you handle it?

this is your chance to influence the DCG Awards that you are a part of. let me kow how you would do things different, or what you liked.

dperceful

Bill Turner · 11-01-2003, 02:33 PM

What about next year we do the top 100 images instead? Or nominate 10 images a month who will advance to an end of the year award.

dperceful · 11-01-2003, 02:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bill Turner:
What about next year we do the top 100 images instead? Or nominate 10 images a month who will advance to an end of the year award.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i remember that email. it's a good idea. let's see what the people say.

Amy Karas · 11-01-2003, 02:46 PM

I remember someone mentioning that artists submit their own like top 3 pics to be considered, like the Oscars. I think that sounded like a good idea. I also like Bill's idea too. One problem I had this year was going through the galleries. Way too many pics and most of them pretty crappy. I didn't get beyond gallery 75.

Bill Turner · 11-01-2003, 02:56 PM

Don't get me wrong. I'm impressed you put this together and pulled it off. I just remember there was some concern by some about this becoming a competition rather than a recognition for good work done. Maybe the 100 Greatest C2F Images of 2004 would solve that. I'm not saying number one would be the best and 100 would be the worst. Just a top 100 club. There would be some that had a bunch in the top 100 and some with one or none. Picking one out of each category was hard. As soon as I sent mine in I wanted to change it. How do you pick just one out of so many? Maybe a top 20 gallery each month. At the endo of the year you can type "sort by top 20" and get the 12 pages totaling 240 images to widdle down to 100.

Kevin Newburn · 11-01-2003, 03:04 PM

You know, color me crazy but I don't see any reason why you couldn't do both the top 100 images and the awards.

My favorite part of the awards were the very specific categories. most improved, best animated picture, best artist I think those kinds of things would be lost in a top 100 pictures list.

Zac · 11-01-2003, 03:11 PM

I would have handled them no differenty, Dan. I think you did a wonderful job where so many others have tried and failed. I don't know or care if I won any awards this go round, but I would really like to thank you for dedicating your time and patience to this.
Five cheers for dperceful!

Hip hip!
HOORAY!

Bill Turner · 11-01-2003, 03:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kevin Newburn:
You know, color me crazy but I don't see any reason why you couldn't do both the top 100 images and the awards.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay. But do the awards out of the top 100. We shouldn't have winners that didn't make the top 100. I'm glad he did it and I liked how it was done. I'm just trying to figure out how to not have to go thru so many images and also for people to get recognized who don't win. Are we listing the runner-ups for each category? Having a top 100 takes care of that. In most awards type things you have nominations and then an award from the nominees. The nominees who don't win can at least be grateful they were chosen from among the greatest of the year. In this format you win or you don't and if you don't you don't even know if you were in the top five.

[This message has been edited by Bill Turner (edited 11-01-2003).]

dperceful · 11-01-2003, 05:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bill Turner:
Are we listing the runner-ups for each category? Having a top 100 takes care of that. In most awards type things you have nominations and then an award from the nominees. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i had planned on giving honorable mentions to some of the artists that came in second in their respective categories.

with most awards you have a panel of judges and such. i have no problem with that....except that you have to get everyone on the same page and setup a process so that the voting gets done in a timely fashion.

i think the key to the awards here is time. you want it done short and sweet. rather it be some artists picked as judges to pick what they think are some of the best images of the month and then at the one year mark hold a best of.....or whatever process is used.

dperceful

dperceful · 11-01-2003, 05:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Zac:
I would have handled them no differenty, Dan......Five cheers for dperceful!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks Zac, i needed that today.

my real intention to this forum was to get some ideas on how to improve on the process that was setup. i think what we have works well....this being the first year the turnout, well it was pretty dismal...so counting the votes will take no time. i hope that the next year that we will have a bigger turnout. i will say that the turnout that we did have this year was pretty diverse. thanks for the kind words.

dperceful

11-01-2003, 02:37 PM	#3
dperceful Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,760	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill Turner: What about next year we do the top 100 images instead? Or nominate 10 images a month who will advance to an end of the year award.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> i remember that email. it's a good idea. let's see what the people say.

11-01-2003, 03:14 PM	#8
Bill Turner Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 182	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kevin Newburn: <B>You know, color me crazy but I don't see any reason why you couldn't do both the top 100 images and the awards. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Okay. But do the awards out of the top 100. We shouldn't have winners that didn't make the top 100. I'm glad he did it and I liked how it was done. I'm just trying to figure out how to not have to go thru so many images and also for people to get recognized who don't win. Are we listing the runner-ups for each category? Having a top 100 takes care of that. In most awards type things you have nominations and then an award from the nominees. The nominees who don't win can at least be grateful they were chosen from among the greatest of the year. In this format you win or you don't and if you don't you don't even know if you were in the top five. [This message has been edited by Bill Turner (edited 11-01-2003).]

11-01-2003, 05:05 PM	#9
dperceful Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,760	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill Turner: Are we listing the runner-ups for each category? Having a top 100 takes care of that. In most awards type things you have nominations and then an award from the nominees. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> i had planned on giving honorable mentions to some of the artists that came in second in their respective categories. with most awards you have a panel of judges and such. i have no problem with that....except that you have to get everyone on the same page and setup a process so that the voting gets done in a timely fashion. i think the key to the awards here is time. you want it done short and sweet. rather it be some artists picked as judges to pick what they think are some of the best images of the month and then at the one year mark hold a best of.....or whatever process is used. dperceful

11-01-2003, 05:11 PM	#10
dperceful Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,760	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac: <B>I would have handled them no differenty, Dan......Five cheers for dperceful! </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> thanks Zac, i needed that today. my real intention to this forum was to get some ideas on how to improve on the process that was setup. i think what we have works well....this being the first year the turnout, well it was pretty dismal...so counting the votes will take no time. i hope that the next year that we will have a bigger turnout. i will say that the turnout that we did have this year was pretty diverse. thanks for the kind words. dperceful

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11-01-2003, 02:18 PM	#1
dperceful Have a sip of my "special" cocktail. Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,760	well this years DCG Awards is done and over with. now is the time to speak your mind....what did you think of the process? what would you have changed? how would you handle it? this is your chance to influence the DCG Awards that you are a part of. let me kow how you would do things different, or what you liked. dperceful

11-01-2003, 02:33 PM	#2
Bill Turner Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 182	What about next year we do the top 100 images instead? Or nominate 10 images a month who will advance to an end of the year award.

11-01-2003, 02:46 PM	#4
Amy Karas Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 109	I remember someone mentioning that artists submit their own like top 3 pics to be considered, like the Oscars. I think that sounded like a good idea. I also like Bill's idea too. One problem I had this year was going through the galleries. Way too many pics and most of them pretty crappy. I didn't get beyond gallery 75.

11-01-2003, 02:56 PM	#5
Bill Turner Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 182	Don't get me wrong. I'm impressed you put this together and pulled it off. I just remember there was some concern by some about this becoming a competition rather than a recognition for good work done. Maybe the 100 Greatest C2F Images of 2004 would solve that. I'm not saying number one would be the best and 100 would be the worst. Just a top 100 club. There would be some that had a bunch in the top 100 and some with one or none. Picking one out of each category was hard. As soon as I sent mine in I wanted to change it. How do you pick just one out of so many? Maybe a top 20 gallery each month. At the endo of the year you can type "sort by top 20" and get the 12 pages totaling 240 images to widdle down to 100.

11-01-2003, 03:04 PM	#6
Kevin Newburn Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 196	You know, color me crazy but I don't see any reason why you couldn't do both the top 100 images and the awards. My favorite part of the awards were the very specific categories. most improved, best animated picture, best artist I think those kinds of things would be lost in a top 100 pictures list.

11-01-2003, 03:11 PM	#7
Zac In love with my remote control. Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,112	I would have handled them no differenty, Dan. I think you did a wonderful job where so many others have tried and failed. I don't know or care if I won any awards this go round, but I would really like to thank you for dedicating your time and patience to this. Five cheers for dperceful! Hip hip! HOORAY!