I have to agree with you on that. This show has the potential for being a great show, if it doesnt get to freaky. I just hope that it doesnt go the x-files route. Just one thing about this show that I hate, is those damn signs that show where they are. It is just annoying.

I definitely agree that this is a show that evolves because as I thought the pilot was okay, this episode was a whole lot better. Dialogue in the first episode seemed a little erratic and forced but this episode was very fluid. I am interested to know what is going on with Peter Bishop and the secret his father knows about him that he hinted to Dunham about at the end. Does anyone else think that the woman who plays the head of Massive Dynamics could play Shirley Manson`s role in TSCC better than she can? Those signs are pretty cool. They don`t take away from the show at all. They got that from Fincher in Panic Room. Maybe I am crazy but did the show end with flash image of an half of an apple?

The only thing I liked was the end in which the son sings his father to sleep. Surprisingly sweet. <br /> Otherwise, it's typical Abrams nonsense. Lots of flash and conspiracy without any dramatic realism. I seriously doubt it will match the X-Files' dramatic realism of CSM's complicated but very human role; whatever fans say, the conspiracy made quite a bit of dramatic sense. Abrams' shows are full of ridiculously evil characters who either quickly change or go on being evil. "The Pattern" will just be more childish convoluted nonsense.<br /> Also, the suspense is poorly done. Everything's so overt, I have to turn away to avoid getting grossed out. It's not well done. The censors have just let up a ton. Millennium handled a lot of scary stuff with subtlety and intelligence. The serial killers were human and sympathetic and realistic. This is just nonsense.

There wasn't one disturbing scene in that whole episode. Dunham description of what the serial killer did to his victims hit me way more than anything I saw in those 45 minutes. You sound a little bias and I can only assume that yo are not a fan of what Abrams does.

My husband isn't sure he likes it. The whole science aspect turns him off. He can suspend belief for supernatural plot elements, but it just gets under his skin when they do they do scientific things that simply aren't possible, like using optic nerves to view a person's last moments in life. Weird, because he likes sci fi in general. He doesn't like the creepy Doctor Bishop either. I like it. I have no problem with the fantasized science and I love the creepy doctor. I wonder if Peter was born slightly DD and his daddy, Doc Bishop, used genetic engineering to fix him up.

This episode was way too X-files-ish for me. Wasn't it Tooms that stole pituitaries? On top of that their use of science fiction technology to solve the case was a bit too easy and a "we'll just reconfigure the phasers/shields" lame way out. It's like the "numbers" show in that they have the scientist to help solve everything - and considering the guy was in a mental hospital/jail for the last umpteen years it's amazing that he's caught on to all the updates in technology for those years but yet is amazed by seat warmers...

Ponyboy anybody can play the Shirley Manson role in Sarah Connor better than Shirley can! I tuned out half way through the episode finished watching it the next day. I don't know, something about the episode just didn't do it for me. LittleNell, I can see where your husband is coming from cause when they said they were gonna use the last image imprinted on the eyeball is when I stopped watching. Not fan of the Dr too much either. Oohh a seat warmer. Yea, that amazes him but the guy used Windows Vista on the 1st episode no problem. I like the black dude from Lost, they should have him around more but not to interrupt his Lost obligations.

LOL, IRA that's just what I thought.

This was much improved over the pilot, which wasn't bad at all, but not as impressive. This was creepy and freaky. I hope they're not just going for gross out stuff, though.

Ponyboy76<br /> "Maybe I am crazy but did the show end with flash image of an half of an apple?"<br /> <br /> Yes it did. If you watch at the commercial breaks they also have little graphics. What is really cool is looking deeper at them to discover that the apple seeds at the core are 2 fetuses, the frog has some kind of logo on it's back and the butterfly's wings. Still not sure if it will somehow tie in or is just JJ misdirection. But still I think it's a cool addition to a very promising show.<br /> <br /> Also looking forward to learning whether or not Jackson is a clone too or he engineered his intellect for the pattern.