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joelr 4/25/2012 12:48:19 PM

I think the delicate issue with revisiting Watchmen is it was a product of it's time. It had something to say about the current and future world we lived in. The paranoias and anxieties we currently have are not the same as they were in '86-'87. Watchmen's impact and ideas still work today, but what worries me most is whether or not today's creators (as insanely talented as this bunch is) can work within that mold, and capture that "it" Watchmen has. Zack Snyder surely didn't in the film in my opinion, and I wonder if the time for this type of story is out of the grasp of the modern day. Will we be left with just imitation?

I am trying to be as open as possible to these books when it comes time for the big Comicscape article. I'm excited to read them, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I have my reservations.

joe4306 4/25/2012 4:45:12 PM

i didn't like watchmen then and i still don't like it. didn't see the movie don't want to see it.but i am still a dc fan- wish they would go back the way they used to be- i miss the old dc

jedibanner 4/25/2012 6:20:09 PM

Great point joelr...should've though of that.

littlemikey979 4/25/2012 6:44:41 PM

I wish I could say that I read Watchmen when they were first published. Sadly, I can't. Althought I hope I still have the chance to have my thoughts heard and argued. I came onboard when talk of the movie began. I went out, bought the graphic novel and read it twice back-to-back. I thought Alan Moore was being selfish and immature when I read his reaction to the movie being made. After seeing the movie I totally agree with him.

Because....

 joelr is right, the book captured the mood of what was going on during that time period. There is no way that can be recreated today. In movie or comic. I think what is going to happen is the stories are going to turn out to be prequels for the movie versions of the Watchmen, although not intended. Snyder even said that the changes he made to the story were to make it easier for todays audiences to relate to. He knew a more direct translation wouldn't sell. Ironman's war was updated for modern times. Rami's Spiderman was bitten by not a radioactive spider but a gene-combined blue and red superspider. It's not that I think the prequels shouldn't be done, it's that I think they can't be done. Correctly. Moore knows this and most of us know this too. 

The best reason that I can think of is this. I have a ton of Ironman comics from the 70's. The African-American/black/people of color, whatever is PC these days, were written to speak jive. That worked for the comics back then because that was how some people spoke. There is no way a comic written today set back then would go over well written in jive. We, as readers, really wouldn't be able to connect because no one talks like that anymore. The same goes for Watchmen. There was a different fear and mood of society then there is today. And people read that in the comics and it was shown through the characters. You can't print that today and expect it to be read. Unless DC is writting the new comics for the fans and out of pure love of the original and not to make money, yeah right.

DaForce1 4/25/2012 10:56:45 PM

 Considering that Chris Roberson (writer of I, Zombie) lost his last DC job over a tweet denouncing DC for doing this obvious cash-grab (something that was omitted from this article, since it was discussed at length by both Dildo (not a typo) and Lee at this very same event), I think it's going to become a bigger issue as we near the release date of this thing. 

I look at it as a once in a lifetime story about a certain period of time, that unless you didn't live through it, you're never going to understand it the way those of us who did live in that time period understand it. It was a definitive turning point in comics that was ushered in by a few others during that same time period. Moore's characters were borrowed from comic book history to tell this story. This one story. Not a series. Moore wrote as one big book with a beginning, middle, and an end because he came from a literary background. He wasn't looking to do sequels. DC decided to split it up into 12 issues and release it over a year's time. 

I think to expand upon this story, is like trying to expand upon "Oliver Twist" or "Moby Dick". Sure, you can have other writers come in a do a prequel about Fagan or Queequeg, but you end up taking away what was special about the book in the first place. Look at the Star Wars prequels as an example. Vader was a badass in the OT. In the prequels, he's diminished into a simpering frankenpussy, which diminshes him as a character in the OT. Same thing with "Gone With the Wind". There was a sequel written years after the original writer had long passed on. Guess how bad that one turned out? 

I, for one, am not going to buy it when it comes out, because I don't want the original story diminished (for me) by inferior work. And yes, it's going to be inferior work, because again, this book took place at a specfic point in history that just won't work today as a 'superhero' comic. No matter how pretty you try to make it look. 

DC will make their money on the first and possibly even second issues of these books (much like they did on the new 52), but sales will sink like a stone thrown into a black hole after that (much like they did on the new 52 titles after issue #2). 

CaptAmerica04 4/26/2012 7:23:39 AM

I hate Dan Didio.  That is all.

shac2846 4/26/2012 1:27:54 PM

 DaForce you need to check your stats. As of March 2012 DC has 7 of the top 10 selling books. The three spots that DC didn't grab for March were Avengers vs. X-men tie ins so that was a given. Before the Avengers vs. X-men things started DC was dominating the sales charts with the new 52 holding all ten spots. Marvel is dominating in market share because they charge more for there books but DC is winning in number of books sold.

Everyone sounded there doom with the new 52 and predicted it wouldn't last longer than a few months but the new direction is still holding strong. Also if you look at the sales charts listed on comic book resource you can see that the only marvel books in the top 100 for March are either Avengers, X-men, or Spider-Man with a cap book, an FF book and some ultimate stuff here and there but just about every new 52 book is holding on in the top 100 in fact quite a few of there obscure titles (swamp thing, red hood and the outlaws, batgirl, catwoman) are in the top 50. They only canceled like 6 books from the first wave. Most critics were predicting the entire line. I don't think those sales figures equal "sink like a stone". 

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