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The Geek Life: Star Wars Superman Connection

From Zod to Major Derlin

By Robert T. Trate     May 30, 2012
Source: Mania.com


Kneel before ZOD! Ha ha I said it first!
© Warner Brothers
The Geek Life is a weekly look at what is going on in the Geek Culture. Movies, Comics, Books, Video Games, and TV Shows encompass more than just release dates and reviews. This week the Geek Life connects Star Wars to Superman. 
 
Last week on the 35th Anniversary of the original Star Wars I went to the historic Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood. What film did I see? Well Superman, of course. Much to my surprise (well, not really) writer, director, and creator George Lucas did not have a 35th Anniversary screening of his film in Hollywood (or anywhere that I know of). I guess old George thought a Blu-ray release of the entire saga was enough. Perhaps a Star Wars (1977) 3D release would have been a better idea, hmmm. Well, despite George’s ill planning, I went to Grauman’s Chinese Theatre dressed in my Star Wars shirt and took a picture. It was the place that I always saw in documentaries about Star Wars where the line was around the block. I took a picture of the hands in the cement and even got a fist bump from a Stormtrooper outside. I then proceeded to the Egyptian for the night’s activities. 
 
The Egyptian Theatre was screening both of Richard Donner’s cuts of Superman (35 mm) and Superman 2 (projected in Blu-ray, which was amazing). What shocked me was not only the turn out but the amount of people that had Star Wars t-shirts on in relation to Superman t-shirts. If you have one, you probably have the other as today they are both easily accessible at Target. As I stood in line I started chatting with the other Geeks in line. I learned two facts that I did not know. The first was that it was the anniversary, to the day, of the premiere of Return of the Jedi. I was also at the exact theatre where it premiered. The Geek who relayed this to me (much older than I) then asked if I knew the Star Wars actors that were in Superman. I knew of Dack and Cliff Clavin but he floored me with the fact that Uncle Owen is in Superman as well. 
 
With poor internet reception I decided to wait and research this at home. Here is who I discovered were in both franchises.  
 
John Ratzenberger

It’s not a little known fact that to one generation he’ll always be known as Cliff Clavin from Cheers. To another he’ll be the Pig from the Toy Story Trilogy. John does have the distinction of being in two Superman Movies and The Empire Strikes Back. You’ll see John as the 1st Controller in Superman when the nuclear missiles launch. He then pops up on Hoth as Major Bren Derlin. Then, finally, in Superman 2 he appears as Controller 1 (yeah, big switch from the first film) at NASA monitoring the Astronauts. 

 

Terrane Stamp

 

 

This one took awhile but our favorite Kryptonian General and all around badass, General Zod, eventually appeared in a Star Wars movie. Stamp would make a brief and tragic appearance as Chancellor Valorum in Star Wars Episode 1. Night and day characters but, like Ratzenberger, he appears in three films from both franchises. 

 

John Williams

 

He never makes an appearance in either of the two franchises, but his presence is felt nonetheless. I challenge you to find a better composer of soundtracks with a more recognizable body of work. To this day his music either lifts us up (Superman Theme) or brings a sense of dread to our hearts (the Imperial March). Williams would do all six Star Wars scores (as if anyone else could) but only the first Superman Movie. His Superman Theme was used nonetheless with subsequent sequels and relaunches. Warner Brothers has to use it again for Man of Steel. Because, no matter what, it’s Williams’ theme that makes us believe a man can fly. 

 

John Morton

 

There are thousands of actors out there with blink-and-you’ll-miss-them performances. John Morton appears in both franchises and twice suffers a tragic death. As Dack Ratler, you would think he would have had the force on his side as Luke Skywalker’s rear gunner. Nope. Dack buys the moisture farm pretty quick. In Superman 2, where we actually see his full face, he gets crushed on the moon before he can ever scream out, “Superman, help me”. 

 

Richard LeParmentier

Here is an actor that anyone with a keen eye or a good ear picked up. LeParmentier is the first guy Darth Vader uses the force to choke. Unlike many of those poor Imperial slobs that followed, Conan Antonio Motti (aka Admiral Motti) actually gets to live. Only to die when the Death Star gets blown up by Vader’s kid. So where is he in Superman 2? LeParmentier is first on the scene in Texas reporting on General Zod’s arrival. He announces to the world that these beings have powers similar to Superman. 

 

Phil Brown

 

This was the one that started it all (for the article). Brown does give that great look that perhaps there is more to the story of Luke’s father before he gets turned into Dewback bacon. This brief performance does add a lot of weight to Luke Skywalker’s angst against the Empire. In Superman he actually appears in the same scene with Ratzenberger’s 1st Controller as a State Senator. Look for the old man in the Coke Bottle Glasses and you just found Uncle Owen. 

 

John Hollis

 

I always had a special place in my heart for Lobot. As my second Empire Strikes Back figure (behind Boba Fett) ever, I always took notice of that face when it appeared on screen. Much later I spotted him in Superman 2 and thought that guy looked familiar. Yep, that Kryptonian Elder is Lobot. Yet, his Superman appearances are not limited to The Movie and Superman 2. Hollis also appears as a Russian General in Superman 4: the Quest for Peace


I looked into why these actors were in these classic films. There was no similar head casting agent nor were they all friends with John Williams. Fate simply aligned for many of these actors. I always felt a connection to these films through Williams’ music. Now I’ll see these actors, as well. 


Robert Trate writes three weekly columns for Mania: the DVD Shopping Bag, the Toy Maniac, and The Geek Life. Follow Robert on Twitter for his for Geek ramblings, Cosplay photos and film criticisms.

 

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wrrlykam 5/30/2012 1:10:46 AM

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Enough of the George bashing. Ill planning or fleecing us for more money the guy can't win.

Go to any scifi based convention including ones linked to other shows and you'll see a large proportion of attendees wearing SW t-shirts. I guess we can't help ourselves. But you are right it would be a surprise not to see more blue t-shirts with the Suppie logo on it.

DarkXid 5/30/2012 3:55:22 AM

 I ain't wearing my Superman shirt until I get a pair of red underwear to wear on the outside of my pants.

CyanideRush 5/30/2012 5:05:35 AM

@wrrlykam: Sorry man, but until George Lucas gets the message and stops being a jerk face, well I say game on witht he bashing.

jedibanner 5/30/2012 5:12:59 AM

How is George Lucas being a jerk?

Guy puts things out and people by them and it's HIS fault???

Come on...

ObiWannaJones 5/30/2012 5:36:04 AM

Screw the George bashing.  Awesome article. 

Long Long, and Prosper George (OOPS; sorry).  May the Force Be With You, George.

ElBaz13 5/30/2012 6:07:16 AM

Now articles like these is what I love to read on Mania and forward to my friends to read as well!

Awesome stuff Rob!

TheStormrider 5/30/2012 6:37:35 AM

I think that a screening of the movie and not being money hungry doesnt have to be mutually exclusive.

Screen it,  for free.

Also,  about george,  I do not know if any of you have read this but the locals in his home town where Skywalker Ranch is have been vetoing him building a movie lot for years.  Their ammunition is that the land is residential,  not commercial.  So a few weeks ago george announced that he would be building low income housing on the land instead.  More than 300 units that will allow the lower income working class to live in the area.  The community is outraged!!!  GO GEORGE!

 

I found the article on movies dot come.

monkeyfoot 5/30/2012 6:51:22 AM

This is indeed one of those articles its a joy to read on Mania. Great job, Robert.

Dewback Bacon? I would have gone for the double "B" and said Bantha Bacon :-)

Absolutely no George bashing from me. My love for the demi-god of Lucas knows no bounds.

Wiseguy 5/30/2012 7:30:40 AM

I love George.

I hate more the fanboys who feel entitled as if George owes them something.

DarthoftheDead 5/30/2012 8:42:32 AM

@wiseguy - I could'nt agree more!!!! I never will understand that type of mentality

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