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jackwagon 11/2/2012 9:48:31 AM

Lazarus,

There's a significant flaw wiyh your logic.  That flaw is that it's entirely possible to write a trilogy of films that are continuous with the previous films without focusing on the old characters.  Are you saying that the prequels sucked because they didn't have a young Han Solo or Lando Calrissian in them too?  The prequels sucked because they lacked any truly interesting characters and were filled with robotic, blank expressions on everyone's faces.  They were proof that otherwise talented actors like Ewan MacGregor, Samuel L. Jackson, and Natalie Portman can all be in a single film and yet still have the film turn out crappy.

TNG was a successful show because it took all the good elements from TOS, but it had its own identity.  Picard, Data, and Worf were all compelling characters who carried on the tradition of Star Trek the way Kirk, Spock, and McCoy did.  DS9 had virtually no connections to the two previous Trek series, and it wound up being a fantastic series with its own identity.  

Episodes 7, 8, and 9 can certainly establish their own identities while respecting the canon that has come before them as well, and they don't necessarily need to involve Han or Leia in any major capacity.  They can be their own movies telling a single story without having to constantly refer back to what has happened before.

Honestly, what could Han possibly do this time around, except for maybe sitting around with Luke and reminiscing over that time they stuffed themselves into the cargo compartments in the Millenium Falcon when the ship was captured by the Death Star?  Or - as a joke - he can't remember whether he shot Greedo first, or if Greedo shot first and he returned fire, or if they shot each other at the same time?  How is any of that interesting?

jackwagon 11/2/2012 10:34:25 AM

 I never said I didn't think that Luke wouldn't be in the new trilogy at all.  I said all along I'd like to see him be the head of the Jedi council now.  He'd be a supporting character to the rest of the Jedi who would be the stars of the show going forward.  I only said I don't see how or why Leia or Han need to come back.  Their stories have been told, and they wouldn't be necessary now.  Having the films centered around their children or their children's children could work, but I see no reason why they'd have to return.

axia777 11/2/2012 10:50:37 AM

@jackwagon - Luke is the Master Jedi of the whole universe now. He is now the new Yoda. Period. Also, Leia bec\ame a master Jedi too. And Han is the father of the Solo twins, who are IMHO are the best source for a great story line.

Also, if you think that the movies are not going to have something to do with the Skywalkers I can assure you that is not going to happen. Star Wars movies = Skywalkers. That is a fact. If you want alternative story-lines that have nothing to do with the Skywalkers watch for the live action Star Wars TV show that is coming. They have 50 scripts written all ready. Supposedly it centers around the inter galactic bounty hunters, smugglers, scum, and Hutt gangsters. So let's all have high hopes for the show coming now that Disney is involved. I wonder what channel it will be on though. I am hoping for HBO or Showtime as they have no commercials and will have a limit for a much higher budget.

 

lazarus 11/2/2012 10:54:10 AM

The expanded book universe has an established canon which should be the source for another triology. That universe has predominent stories based on the continued story from Episodes 4/5/6. Why NOT continue that? The stories are time appropriate now and frankly, very very good.

And FYI, Han doesn't just sit around eating prunes. That is so stupid it is not funny.

axia777 11/2/2012 11:48:53 AM

I am with you lazarus as I really really want the Thrawn trilogy to be the basis for the next movies.  But they have said it is official that the books are out and are now looking at being de-cannonized.  Which sucks becaue that  destroys TONS of super awesome Star Wars history that is firmly accepted by the world of Star Wars fans as being cannon.  Fucking lame IMHO, but that is that.

DarthoftheDead 11/2/2012 2:16:24 PM

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lazarus 11/2/2012 3:17:44 PM

Yeah that is soo STUPID! Why count out the books? That is so lame.

Geez. SW Episode 7, Revenge of the Gungans. Stupid. Maybe they will have them fight the vampires from Twilight. God I hate this new generation. You can all kiss my ass and suck my johnson. Glittering vampires and stupid aliens. I wanna see Jedi and Vong duking it out.

axia777 11/2/2012 5:11:48 PM

Yeah, me too Laz, me too.  :(  That is why I say that center the story on Luke being the new Yoda Jedi Master setting his new Jedi Temple on Yavin 4.  Then have Han and the now Jedi Master Leia as parents of the Solo twins.  The twins are set to become Jedi and the movie can go on from there.  It is a good middle ground bwtween new stories and the books.  At least that is what I think would be cool.  You can read more on my ideas in this thread and the other threads on the whole Star Wars deal.

SarcasticCaveman 11/4/2012 1:47:12 AM

 Eh, I for one would rather have them throw out the expanded universe continnuity, but use elements of them in the new series.  I really like the idea of Luke being in charge of the new Jedi order, and I really like the idea of the Solo kids, but I really don't want to have to listen to nitpickers discecting the new movies and complaining about what the movies did different.  Once more, that is use elements of the books, but make the new movies the new cannon.

axia777 11/4/2012 12:16:15 PM

@SarcasticCaveman - The Vong as an enemy in the movie would be pretty awesome. Both visually and plot wise too. Then they could move onto when Jacen become the new Sith Lord.

 

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