"Hi, I'm Tracy and I'm only going to free named characters from the nightmarish living death the Hunter has placed them in. I'm sure the other forty people strapped down on the gurneys next to them couldn't contribute to my escape attempt in any frakking way." Everything wrong with this show is encapsulated in that moment.  I took it as she grabbed the people she knew what there powers were.  Why grab forty people who are unknown quantities that could just as easily screw up an escape as help.  PLus a smaller crew would have an easier time escaping than a bigger unwieldy group.

Tracy freezes the entire parking garage… but not the Hunter Presumably because Hunter was smart enough or self-serving enough (probably both) to not walk into a garage flooding with water where a meta with cold powers is hiding.  So he ordered the soldiers into die and hopefully weaken her. I would think that here deep freezing herself was an unexpected bonus to him.

Hiro saves Ando and the baby… but not Mrs. Parkman  Hiro couldn't teleport so he had to wheelbarrow out Ando.  Who knew  where Janice was by the time he got his power over time turned back on.  She may have been locked in a car or van where he couldn't get her.

Peter mysteriously knows exactly where his mother is I honestly didn't even wonder about that, It was just nice to see Peter finally having a really cool 'Hero' moment.

and it never occurs to the Hunter that Tracy might not be dead after he shoots her why would it ?  She hasn't used her powers that much or on that scale so he wouldn't really have intel that would lead him to suspect that she could survive being shattered in an ice form (though we don't know if she will live after thawing out.

On a plus side for me, I like that they have limited Peter and Hiro'ss abilities.  Now they are not so all powerful anymore.

The show is a lot more enjoyable when you don't watch it looking to hate it.  Oh wait I forgot it's still cool to hate on Heroes.  You guys don't deserve to have Fuller back.

D review given doesn't seem to fit with the other reviews I've seen for this episode, where they say it's a good one and putting Heroes back on track.

Hanso - Did you happen to watch this episode, I'm interested in what you think.

EvilMonkey - Thanks for that post. I agree with you on all your explantations for Rob's dissent. I was among one of the many frustrated viewers, but I still watched it in hopes that it would turn around. Frankly, Fuller's episode did just that.

I enjoyed that he put Matt Parkman's actual family pack into the picture, because they were disturbingly absent and while Rob didn't seem to enjoy the Paris scene (yes, it was cheesy for them to do a Superman-esque scene), but it was a much, much better sendoff for someone who died than they normally have. I never particularly liked the speedster and I am happy they are correcting that storyline and they did it in a scene that had emotional weight for Matt.

It wasn't like when Peter's father died suddenly and they moved on to the next scene. Why build a character up for so long and have him die with a gunshot instead of a showdown with abilities?

I'm happy they brough Micah back as I suspected and again, I'm happy that out of all the Heroes, he has at least a Plan B and thinks some things through.

And speaking about Peter knowing miraculously where his mother was, I'm with you EvilMonkey, I was just happy it was Peter having a Hero moment. 

Regarding the Hunter, I would think it's clear by now he doesn't want to understand people with abilities, just capture them. So of course he believes shooting her frozen body and shattering it would do the trick. Tracy has never exhibited this facet of her ability before either, so why the hell would ANYONE think she was alive unless the writers added the coda with her winking at Noah Bennett?

 This was a Bryan Fuller written, episode. It was ok, but not great. Not a game changer by any means. Still somewhat enjoyable and yes there were a lot of flaws in this episode, but I don't think it necessarily warranted getting a D, but CINESCAPE ahem Mania, isn't the best source for review anyways, no offense, it's your critique. 

Wondering how this will all play out in the end for this volume. Hopefully we'll finally have an epic season finale, this time around.

Riom - I haven't seen the episode.  I stopped watching Heroes a couple of episodes back, still read what was going on with the series so I could keep up when I did decide to start watching again, which was gonna be the 4th season. 

Fueller said it would take awhile to turn Heroes,around so that's why I figured he can't do much to help save the 3rd season, so I'll wait for the 4th.

I got this episode on my DVR, so I'll probably check it out, outside of here, I've read good things on it.  I'll get back to ya when I do see it.

This ep wasn't great but not bad...average I'd say. Definitely not a D.

I don't have a huge problem with Tracy not rescuing everyone...but I probably would have.

Who the F cares about that cheating Bitch Mrs. Ex-Parkman? Hiro isn't strong enough to rescue all 3 (Baby, Ando , and Mrs. Cheater) so he chose his best friend. Good choice...Bro's before Ho's.

I don't think it's beyond beief that Peter may have been keeping an eye out for his Momma. Laying low, and keeping an eye out for his loved ones.

I was totally ready to join the ranks of yu haters when Parkman started flying, but then the show TOTALLY redeemed itself, with the explanation. It was a nice homage to Superman, and it was a cool twist.

As for the parking garage scene, Thats the only problem I had w/ the show. Hunter and HRG showed up a little too soon to be out of range of Tracy's cold snap.

BUT I don't think Hunter should've expecter Tracy to survive shooting her...I didn't expect her to survive it, and I know more about Tracy than Hunter does.

Over all the show went nowjhere again, but it is still fun to watch.

I give it a C plus

*sigh*

Once again, Rob isn't paying any attention to what he's watching...

1. The baby can only activate things he touches. Hence the name 'Baby Touch and Go' that Hiro keeps calling him. 2. Tracy didn't rescue everyone because she doesn't know everyone. Would you go about releasing people with abilities if you weren't sure they were going to screw you over? 3. Tracy wasn't winking at HRG, she was blinking a tear out of the only intact eye she had left. The tear rolled down her damaged cheek. 4. Isn't Peter working with Rebel/Micah? So why wouldn't Rebel know where Mama Petrelli was being cornered by the Feds and tell Peter? It's not like it has to be shown on screen. 5. The Hunter didn't freeze because he was just as far away from the ice as Rebel/Micah was. That one doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice it. 6. Hiro didn't have teleportation powers, so he took the one person (the person with powers) with him that he knew for certain would be locked up if he left him behind. AND he took Ando 12 miles away in a wheelbarrow while carrying a baby on his chest.

Seriously, if you actually just watch the show, a lot of these things are easy to see. If you're surfing the internet while the show is on in the background, you get this review.

WHOA!!! I didn't read all of Rob's review (can you blame me) until I saw your comments DaForce...

ROB SERIOUSLY???... You thought Tracy was WINKING at HRG? SERIOUSLY????

I'm at a loss for words... thats asinine

The show was ok this week.  Definitally had a better feel.  At least the dialog was better.

It takes some time to make serious changes to a show.  We will see what happens.

As for the grade,  when you give shows a flat grade liek this,  its difficult.

A's are few and far,  and eitehr given fanboyish,  or scarce.

Be is considered a pretty good grade.

C is average (at least most the places in the world consider 'c' average.

D is just below average.

E is on the edge of failure

F fails

Personally if i were going to grade shows, movies etc, id have a grade in categories.

Dialog, plot, suspense, enjoyment sort of the way they do video games.  Graphics, game play, replay value, sound, control.

Actually why dont we get to vote on the grade? 

After years you would think mania would at least have that:)
 

I agree with many of the comments that Rob is being too critical. I felt Tracy didn't rescue everyone because she was scared and trying to get out before she got caught again. So she grabbed the only people she saw right in front of her and whom she had met before, rather than wasting time going after unknown quantities. Also, as Micah found out, she doesn't really care about people she doesn't know. Hiro didn't go back for Mrs. Parkman because the Feds were only after people with powers. The only reason they had her along was so she could bring in her baby. Why would Hunter think Tracy was still alive? Being shattered into a million pieces should be enough to kill anyone, even someone with ice powers (which is not like having Claire's power of healing supposedly mortal wounds). As demonstrated when Micah ran out of the room, the ice had a definitive edge, which HRG and Hunter were obviously outside of before they came into frame. I thought the Superman homage was nice. I was fine with them killing Daphne, since I never really cared for her. Not to mention, it gave Parkman a decent scene that actually meant something to his character. It didn't occur to me how Peter knew where Angela was (though daforce's explanation makes sense), but I didn't really care. It was just cool seeing him rescue her.

Overall, I think Heroes is already doing much better than it has been, and I look forward to seeing Fuller's influence hit when the shows he has worked on begin airing.