Yes, m friends and coworkers are having a tough time with Heroes. I keep hearing the words "I'll give it a couple more episodes." For me, get rid of Parkman and the painter. IMO screw the "Saving the future world" concept and just be about Heroes and Villians. As people spring up with powers show us why and how they decide to be either, and them dealing with the other.

I was upset they killed the Magneto guy. I wanted to see more of him in future episodes. Speaking of the Magneto guy, if his power is to control metals, why didn't he just rip the safe door open instead of trying to pick the lock? Is it the same reason Peter didn't walk through the vault door last season?<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />I'm glad you caught that Micah at age 10 or whatever, appears to live by himself. What kinda parenting is his grandma doing? With Knox on the run from the bank scene, I'm betting he finds his way to Micah's town and probably ends up being Micah's uncle.<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />NBC didn't completely lie with last season's marketing ads it seems. Nikki is dead and now it seems that Dr.Zimmerman cloned the Nikki model and gave them powers? He did say he created them.<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />The African guy said he Matt has been his subject his whole life. Why then are the only pictures the African has of Matt's run during Heroes? How about Matt at the prom, or Matt when he got married paintings? Did the African give Matt some of his power at the end or do you just need to get really high and listen to some <A class=iAs style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal! important; FONT-SIZE: 100%! important; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px! important; COLOR: darkgreen! important; BORDER-BOTTOM: darkgreen 0.07em solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent! important; TEXT-DECORATION: underline! important" href="#" target=_blank itxtdid="5204255">music</A> so you can see the future also?<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />I also would like to know why Claire's real mother doesn't need oxygen. As far as I know all she can do is create fire but apparently she doesn't breathe. Why was Claire the only one being affected by the lack of oxygen? Claire's mom wasnt even breaking a sweat while all this was going on.<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />Peter keeps getting more & more powerful. Now he has all the powers from the villains in the bank plus Sylar's powers plus Future Peter's power. I honestly don't think even the writers can keep track of all the powers Peter has. By the way, who was this new lead artist that rescued LOST? As far as I know it's always been Lindelof/Cuse running the show and breaking the story with the writers.

"That gets to the heart of the problem – the characters have just lost all of their depth and are all just not that interesting." I completely agree, Stephen! Hiro now has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. After the potentially emotionally maturing events of an apolocylptical future and being forced to bury his nemesis alive last year, he has somehow become a giddy adoloscent. Nikki 2.0 is a drag. I thought we were rid of her. Totally agree about the teeth. I can't stop looking at them. A show about Peter as an incredibly powerful super-hero Loser (with a capital L) would actually be interesting. "I have ultimate power, but I don't have the ultimate IQ." (Oh, God, I just got a shiver of what the next 4 years could be like if either one of the potential VP's has to take over.) Definitely not a great episode. I'd give it a D for no effort and no preparation.

Well, as usual I disagree with the rating and review of this episode. Someone already said this in another post but all I really read with these comments and reviews is a series of nit-picking about shit that has nothing to do with the story or show. You are really just looking for shit because its not living up to your expectations. Complaining about Ali Larter`s teeth is probably the most ridiculous comment I`ve read on here. I didn't know this was Top Model. As far as Micah living alone. How do you figure that? Hmm, I don`t know. How about he was just home alone while the rest of the family was out? I was home alone plenty as a kid. We all don`t live the white picket fence life of the Waltons you know. Anyway, the fact that Nikki was cloned is either really going open things up or just make a mess of her origin. If they do it right, then it explains how she had a totally different personality living inside her. I don`t think Hiro is so much being a child as he is still trying figure out what he`s supposed to do with his life. If it was me, I`d go on vacation. He`s pretty much saved the world twice. Anymore we might have to start calling him Jack Bauer. He also seems to like this Speedster chick which as any guy knows can turn the most matured guy into a kid. I will agree that Peter is kind of a dumbass, but he always has been. Nothing has changed since season 1. He just has more powers. Sylar and Bennett working together was great. I really loved the part when he went all "cop" on that officer and ordered coffee. I can definitely see Quinto as a cop or FBI agent. I`m also not too sure about the African dude and Parkman. It is a little too confusing. I`m also not sure how he gave Parkman his powers. I wish I could do that by putting on my Ipod. Claire`s mother can manipulate fire, to the point where she probably becomes part of it. Fire eats oxygen, so I`m assuming there was enough oxygen to maintain the fire but not enough to actually breathe for Claire. If you don`t buy that then grab a comic book. You don`t see Bobby Drake freezing to death when he freezes something around him do we? Same concept. Like I said nit-picking.

I'm not sold on your explanation but I'll take it.<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />And it's not nit picking. It's attention to detail. Attention to detail by the writers is what is needed to push this show to greatness.<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />We critize cause we want to see it do well. If you got holes in yo game that's where you gonna hit from. What did Jordan do when criticed about his D and told a scorer couldn't be a great defender? He went out and won Defensive Player of the Year. <BR itxtvisited="1" />What did Vince Carter do when critics went at him? Nothing and he sucks :) <BR itxtvisited="1" />Don't want that to happen to Heroes now do we?<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />The Hiro thing is true though. Take Lost for instance. The consequences of getting the people off the Island completely changed Jack. <BR itxtvisited="1" />Even on 24 Jack Bauer gets all messed up from constantly saving the US.<BR itxtvisited="1" />Hiro on the other hand, is like nothing has happened. He's still a fool.

okay, better yet. When Bobby turns himself into solid ice. How does he breathe? So, it`s kind of the same thing with Claire`s mom.I just think if we were reading a comic book none of these things would even be a thought. Heroes is supposed to be taken like a live action comic book. <BR />Attention to detail is them screwing up what powers Peter has, not worrying about Ali Larter`s teeth.<BR />

LOL. Ok, I'm with you on the Claire thing. Thanks for clarifying that for me. I have no idea on the teeth though but I didn't complain about that. My complain this episode was the Magnet guy not busting the vault door open and the oxygen thing.

For me, the Ali Larter thing is about another big beautiful blonde who can't act but gets tons of screen time anyway. I call it the "Battle Boobs" phenomena after Star Trek Voyager. So, since she can't act, and I'm not attracted to her, I find myself staring at her teeth, or perhaps it's the perpetual sort of open mouth smile she always has on her face like she just walked into a buffet. And maybe I am just being hyper-critical. There's a lot of new shows to try out this fall and watching so much TV is making me cranky. Maybe if Heroes was my only show, I'd be happy. But I don't think so. The writers have lost almost all continuity. The characters who are developing aren't getting much screen time. Mohinder's and Hiro's friend's greed for superpower makes sense. The toughening up of Clare's non-superhero family makes sense. The strange religious transformation of Peter's brother makes sense psychologically. Even Peter makes sense, because he hasn't absorbed anyone's IQ powers, but the future-hero Peter hanging out with present Peter is, I don't know, like Dumb and Dumber with capes. But they're spending a lot of time on people like Hiro, and the weird Syler/Petrelli thing, and it all just seemed like a fan-fiction episode instead of a well-thought out show.

I thought the Bennett/Sylar team-up was great, especially with Bennett's final comment to the Haitian. Brought me back to the feeling of Season 1, when I turned to my wife all wide-eyed and said, "Oooooh..." Great ending. I'm not sure about the cloning of Nikki. Wasn't Jessica a twin who died young and Nikki absorbed her personality, or something like that? Maybe they were triplets. Or maybe Nikki has a Jamie Madrox-like duplicating power that creates duplicates with different powers & personalities. Has Nikki displayed any other powers? I think we've always assumed her power was Jessica, but maybe Jessica (and Tracy) had their own powers, and their creation was Nikki's power. As far as the oxygen thing, I had 2 thoughts. 1) Claire's mom has obviously had more practice with her powers, and might therefore have trained herself to get by with less oxygen, knowing her power burns it up. 2) She deliberately placed her flaming hand in front of Claire's face, so it may be a more localized phenomenon, sucking up the oxygen directly around her hands and therefore drawing it away from Claire. Both fairly reasonable explanations. To downgrade the episode on something so minor would be nitpicking indeed. I like Greg Grunberg, but they haven't been able to make Parkman really interesting this season. I don't like this whole African jaunt. I'm interested to see where it goes, though. This season is definitely getting off to a better start than last season, but still not quite as good as the 1st. But still, it's better than 90% of what's out there.

I read somewhere that the next volume of Heroes is titled "Fugitives" or just "Fugitive" don't remember. Anyone else hear about that? <BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />To be fair FFt, I didn't downgrade the episode cause of that. I just wanted to know wtf was going on with the oxygen.<BR itxtvisited="1" /><BR itxtvisited="1" />Right now I enjoy Heroes, I think this ep was better than the last. I just don't love Heroes. I loved season 1. I want to love Heroes again, I need 2. Some of my fave shows are coming to an end, BSG, The Shield, Lost only has 2 seasons left. So Heroes has to keep their place. I don't want Heroes to turn into Smallville. Something I used to like and now I just hate.