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I Talked with a Zombie: Mark Kidwell on ‘68

By: Kurt Amacker
Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2007

Everyone loves zombies.  They scare the hell out of you.  They serve as a perfect metaphor for, well, “us.”  And, best of all, they eat people.  With those sterling qualities, I see very little not to like about our lumbering, undead friends.  Though mind-controlled, killer zombies first arrived in on film in 1932 with Bela Lugosi in White Zombie, George Romero introduced the shambling, undead, flesh-eating version we love so much in 1968’s Night of the Living Dead.  Recently, the Dawn of the Dead remake and the Resident Evil films – for better and worse – have renewed zombies as a staple of horror cinema.  In 2003, Robert Kirkman dragged zombies out of the grave and into the limelight with his ongoing series The Walking Dead from Image.  Now, writer Mark Kidwell; artists Jay Fotos and Nat Jones; and letterer Jason Hanley have gone back to the well with ’68, a one-shot from Image Comics and Cryptic Magazine.  ’68 takes place in the public domain universe of Romero’s Night of the Living Dead.  Except, instead of rural Pennsylvania, we see the zombie plague unleashed on the other side of the world and in the worst place possible – the jungles of Vietnam.  I talked with Mark about ’68, zombies, and the future of the project. 

Kurt Amacker: Tell me a little bit about the evolution of '68.  How did you and Jay Fotos get together on the book? 

Mark Kidwell: ‘68 was originally commissioned by Chazz Demoss of Dead Dog comics. When Dead Dog decided to focus on publishing Cryptic Magazine and cease publication of individual comic books, Jay was instrumental in getting the book green-lighted at Image. The creative team, including Nat Jones, Jay, and myself, was already in place and the book was already completed. I credit Chazz with getting Nat and Jay involved. 

KA: The book takes place during the Vietnam War, ostensibly during the outbreak depicted in Night of the Living Dead.  Lieutenant Blake is obviously seeing or married to Barbara, the woman from the film.  And yet, the story is relatively self-contained and short.  Did you ever consider making it into a miniseries or at least framing it with some reference to the outside world of the film? 

MK: Yeah, Lieutenant Tommy Blake is Barbara’s boyfriend. The book was originally planned as a “bridge” issue between story arcs on Dead Dog’s Night of the Living Dead comic series Barbara’s Zombie Chronicles. When the series was discontinued, everyone involved agreed that ‘68 was strong enough to stand on it’s own, thus the one-shot. As far as future plans for ‘68, Nat and I have already discussed tons of story ideas to flesh the series out into a four-issue run and then possibly a trade paperback collection. If reader response is extremely positive and there’s a demand, we’d love to continue it. If we do, you can bet there’ll be some flashes of what’s happening in the outside world, Saigon, and elsewhere. 

KA: You guys pulled no punches with the gore in '68.  But, unlike most comics – even horror comics – the violence feels more unnerving than cartoonish.  Given that gore is in plentiful supply in comics, how do you keep it scary and prevent it from becoming boring or silly? 

MK: The approach to violence and gore in ‘68 is an emotional one and the effect, hopefully, varies as the story proceeds. At first, the blood-letting, while profuse, is a bit on the jovial side on the part of the characters. When standard methods of dispatching an enemy fail, the violence zooms in and gets grimmer. Also, there’s a difference in mood when you’re dealing with empathetic characters in a historically accurate setting. Most of the gore and violence in ‘68 is rooted in historical fact (minus the zombie stuff, of course) and is designed to reflect the type of atrocities that actually took place during the conflict. As the situation becomes more intense, so does the character reaction to it, especially when it involves members of the squad. It hits home when it’s one of your own. 

KA: Zombie comics are incredibly popular right now.  Why do you think that is?  What do you feel you have to offer to the subgenre to separate it from all the other titles out there?

MK: Zombies have remained popular since their inception for several reasons. The first major one I can think of is the morbid fascination with the fact that these monstrous creatures that attack and eat human beings are us. I think the fear of contracting a virus that kills you, raises you from the dead and sends you on a cannibalistic murder spree, unable to control your own actions really hits home with readers and viewers of this genre. Secondly, the total collapse of governments, police forces and the military caused by the wildfire spread of the zombie plague gets people thinking of their own survival without society’s built-in protections. How long could you hold out locked in your cellar or attic? Would you eat a bullet when the stress got too great? Would you even be able to protect yourself by shooting a friend or loved one in the head before they gnaw your arm off? I think the whole zombie subgenre involves its fans more than other horror concepts, makes ‘em think about their own chances of survival. 

What separates ‘68 from other zombie titles is its firm anchoring into an actual historical period. By centering on the Vietnam conflict, the story grounds itself in the believable.  It focuses on the horrors of war, and then ups the ante by introducing the risen, hungry dead. It also offers the opportunity to drive home the impression that this plague extends past the comfortable, familiar borders of the United States, into the jungles of Vietnam, and beyond. 

KA: How do you feel that working with Jay enhances the book?  What does he bring that another artist couldn't? 

MK: Jay’s work is perfectly suited for horror and dark fantasy. His use of a muted palette, heavy darks and gauzy light expands on the grim, paranoiac atmosphere established by Nat Jones’s line art and my scripting in ‘68. It especially enhances that feeling of isolation and claustrophobia suggested by a dense, surrounding jungle that could at any moment explode with gunfire, shrapnel or (in the case of our story) the hungry dead. Jay’s colors and use of sparse lighting really set the mood. In addition, his paint work on the covers pull you right to the book on the shelves with their depth and mood. His stuff is top of the line when dealing with dark fantasy. 

KA: '68 is relatively self-contained.  Besides its length, we spend most of the comic with one fire team who encounters the zombies without any explanation outside of what they can speculate based on personal experience – one soldier from the south talks about voodoo zombies, for instance.  We never even see the zombies overrunning Saigon or anything.  How do you think that sense of immediacy and claustrophobia enhances the story?  

MK: It pulls the reader into the story with our five troopers. As a witness to what goes on in ‘68, you are slogging along right behind those guys. You see only what they see. Under restrictive radio silence, you can’t even get in touch with the home firebase to request intel. Limiting the characters’ worldview forces them and the reader to keep moving forward, into the unknown, to see what fate has in store for them. The reader is right there with them until the bitter end. It’s only in the final two pages that you get to zoom out a bit and see, via the helicopter crew’s perspective, the final ramifications of the zombie outbreak and the air strike. Think of it in terms of heading up that first big hill on a roller coaster. The tension mounts until you get to the top, then you hit the top, see what awaits you and there’s nothing you can do to stop. Now think of looking off that hill and seeing a brick wall across the track at the bottom. There’s still no getting out of it. 

KA: '68 also pulls no punches in the depictions of the war.  The American soldiers frequently use racial epithets when referring to the Viet Cong, and not all of the characters are even likeable.  Did you consciously emphasize the bunt brutality of the wartime experience, or did it just come out that way because you were writing a horror story? 

MK: Y’know, I considered toning the dialog down a bit when I wrote the script, mostly due to today’s warm, fuzzy approach to political correctness. I finally decided to portray the characters realistically, using documented slang and the real, harsh language of the situation. The dialog is also designed to give you a deeper insight into the personalities of the characters. For instance, the initial dialog from Privates Mann and Bronto is harsher than that of Blake and the others. Those two are more hardened and more adapted to the barbaric wartime environment. As the story unravels and all the members of the squad are faced with their enemy’s brutal acts visited on fellow soldiers, we see their dialog change, getting more insulting and vengeful.  

KA: What do you hope readers will take away from '68?  Do you see any lessons to be learned, or do you just hope it scares the hell out of them? 

MK: Sure, we wanna scare ‘em! That’s the whole point. However, we’re all aware of the fact that you can’t really scare the hell out of someone within the restrictions of the silent, static medium of comics. As a result, you go for mood. I hope we’ve established an atmosphere of impending danger, spiced with the confusion and paranoia of facing the gruesome supernatural head-on. Also, by setting the story in the historical time period of the Vietnam War, I hope we can juxtapose the horrors of the undead sub-genre with the all-too-real horrors of war and provide a one of a kind comic book experience. I’ve never seen a film or comic deal with zombies in Vietnam and I hope we’ve done our jobs well and have filled in that gap. 

KA: Do you have any future plans for '68, like another one-shot or miniseries, or is this it? 

MK: Well, as I stated above, if the readers want it, we will provide it. There are potentially endless stories you can tell using ‘68 as a jump-off point and Nat, Jay and I already have some firm ideas. We all feel really close to this project, have put our best work into it, and would love to expand it into a miniseries, trade paperback, and, eventually, a film. 

KA: Anything else you'd like to add?  Go nuts. 

MK: Thanks, yeah. First off, let me thank everyone involved in bringing ‘68 to life. Nat Jones, Jay Fotos, Chazz DeMoss and Erik Larsen at Image Comics for making it possible to bring my script to life and get it into readers’ hands and secondly, thanks to everyone who picks the book up and gives our horror one-shot a chance.  

Coming up, you’ll be seeing another horror one-shot from Jay and me. It’s a monster and gore-filled romp entitled Creature From the Depths that uses Universal’s original Creature From the Black Lagoon as inspiration and spirals into the dark via Lovecraft. Another book originally commissioned by Chazz over at Dead Dog, the book will now be published by Image Comics in the next few months. Also, do not miss Nat and Jay’s Death Dealer mini-series, also from Image. From what I’ve seen so far, these guys are doing the work of their careers and it’s gonna be a comics milestone in the dark sword and sorcery genre. Later in the year, be sure to check out BUMP, a four-issue mini-series from the all new Fangoria Comics line. I’m providing the script and the interior and cover art.  It’s by far the darkest, most vicious thing I’ve ever written. It’s slated to become a feature film and will start shooting this summer with Robert Kurtzman (Wishmaster, Buried Alive, From Dusk ‘Til Dawn) providing director’s duties and SFX. From there, I’ll be illustrating further Fango projects from horror fiction giants like Ray Garton and veterans of the horror filmmaking world. It’s gonna be a busy year… 

Thanks Kurt, for giving me the opportunity to get the word out on ‘68 and these other projects. 

KA: No problem.  I support the living dead in all their forms. 

The Spinner Rack 
By Al Brown and Kurt Amacker
 

Al: This week: Recurring guest star Dr. Dastardly analyzes the latest trends in code names as Superman fights aliens, some guy explodes, Warren Ellis takes over Thunderbolts and...sigh...Wolverine has a kid. 

Kurt: I’ve already got the cigars! 

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Al: Another story that, like every Superman vs. Batman story ever, will spend four issues trying desperately to make us think the guy with no superpowers has a prayer. The problem with stories like these is that in order to convince us that the human guy can win, the authors usually end up portraying the super-powered guy as a complete numbskull.
 

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michaelxaviermaelstrom • Jan 10, 2007, 06:28am •
1. "War Zombie's" were done in a segment in Heavy Metal Magazine's animated movie with a stunningly similar name.

(..to the magazine, not 68, in case you were confused)

World War II bomber and swamp Zombies in the HM segment "B-17" - I always loved the atmosphere in that.

Almost as much as the gratuitous boobie shots.

'68 sounds good.

2. re: "For anyone who's ever sat around and said "Hey, if Superman, Batman, the Predator and some Aliens ever fought, I wonder who would win:" Oh my God you are such a nerd.

Sandy Collora actually did it in a live action kick-axe 30000 dollar fan-film called "Batman Dead End"; it's in your website's video section, you know down the page.

P.S "Nerd" is so 80's we're "Geeks" now. GET IT RIGHT.

:D

Laterness.

albrown • Jan 10, 2007, 07:39am •
Actually, Michael, "nerd" is back in. "Geek" is so last year.

noblenonsense • Jan 10, 2007, 08:23am •
I never thought about Superman Batman v. Predator Alien.....but dear god it sounds amazing.

Reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy at my comic book store.
Comic Book Guy: Are you interested in some Indie books?
Me: Depends what do you recommend?
Comic Book Guy: Jesus versus vampires. The title leaves nothing to the imagination.
Me: That...is the best idea ever.

I didn't buy it. It literally left nothing to the imagination.

Thunderbolts was good with Fabian. A real Marvel team book that I liked. It was reminiscent of X-Men of yester year. Hopefully Ellis can keep me interested.

Oh and where's the love for the JSA?!?! Johns is mastering an amazing team book that is being overshadowed by a lackluster JLA. DC somehow got me to buy one book...amazing.

michaelxaviermaelstrom • Jan 10, 2007, 04:02pm •
(- Noblenonsense -) JESUS CHRIST VAMPIRE HUNTER now there's a title!

(and a movie - Ed)

How can you withstand the awesome power of the title!

(and the movie - Ed)

Alright Ed, we'll talk about the movie.

(about time - Ed)

Strange and Fun in an excruciating don't-see-it-too-often (or even once- Ed) kind of way.

Particularly when it stars the likes of:

Jesus Christ! (Vampire Hunter - Ed)

He wants us to drink his blood, he's immortal..you knew someone would put the pieces together eventually.

(Only took 2000 years - Ed)

and they got it backwards.

Also starring:

Mary Magnum! (that is so wrong - Ed)

El Santos! - The Mexican superhero wrestler!

Gloria Oddbottom! - El Santos' ass-istant

and Dr. Praetorious.

(*shiver and cover butt* - Ed)

Which reminds me of another descriptive title and apparently neglected comic book and movie: FROM BEYOND!

..which was indeed where they were from.

*pause*

..which people should see.

*pause*

..stars many of the same cast from Re-Animator!

*pause*

..it's quite good.

*pause*

Based on H.P Lovecraft's uh..name!

*pause*

See it.

*pause*

*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM*

(*ow* what was that for?! - Ed)

Exit strategy.

Seemed appropriate at the time.

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Jakester • Jan 10, 2007, 09:37pm •
Dead End kicks unholy arse!
Sandy also did a "trailer" for "World's Finest," which may be even better than "Dead End."

So...Little Red Riding Hood turns to the Big Bad Wolf and says, "No. You're going to eat me like it says in the book!"

bmickelson • Jan 10, 2007, 10:36pm •
Apparently, only Al has figured out to eliminate the spaces between the book title and his humorous comments. Get with the program, Kurt! Make our reading even easier!

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