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Game Of Thrones: Mhysa Review (Article) - 6/10/2013 10:46:56 AM

I was surprised the ending didn't end in a cliff hanger so to speak.  I think they had several to choose from, but I'm pretty sure the main one I'm thinking of is the same one ddiaz28 is thinking of.  I’m sure it will be shown in an early episode next season though.

The Arya scene was a favorite, I think it took place in a roadside inn in the books and really stood out to me, because she just broke down when she started stabbing the guy.  I recall reading it and thinking this could be the last shred of any innocence she has left being removed.  Also, it may have been the first man she killed in the show, but in the book she killed a guard to escape Harrenhal with Gendry. 

Regarding Jon getting shot with arrows, I’m already seeing internet jokes invoking  a popular Skyrim (video game) meem, that “Jon used to be an adventurer, but then he took an arrow to the knee.” 

Glad all TV viewers finally know for sure that Theon has been a prisoner of the Bolton’s.   Their sigil is a flayed man on an X, and Theon has been getting flayed here and there.

I liked Jojen Reed in the books, in the show he comes across a bit arrogant and kind of a know-it-all.   I agree again with ddiaz28 about the Rat Cook story and how they pointed out how taboo it is to harm guests.  

I think Davos will be a fan favorite if he is not already.   I think the actor playing him fits him really well.  He is a lot like Ned Stark, but he understands bending the rules a little better.

It was good seeing the little bit of bonding between Tyrion and Sansa, well at least before the news of the Red Wedding reached King’s Landing. 

Overall I’m happy with the finale, and understand why there was no big cliffhanger as the season does not cover the entirety of book three, though they certainly could have ended on a cliffhanger if they choose to.  It might have irritated people more having to wait than it enticed them for season four, so I understand why they held off.   I think next season has the possibility to start having parts of book four and five mixed in, curious to see if it will.  It also seems to me that catching up to GRRM is a real possibility and I hope we don’t come to a point where we have to wait two years between seasons. 

GAME OF THRONES: The Rains of Castamere Review (Article) - 6/7/2013 9:13:52 AM

 That is why I'm glad they showed the sharing of bread and salt custom, but wish they had explained somehow that it was a sign you were safe.  Because then viewers might have let their guard down and when the crap it the fan, it would have added to their shock.

GAME OF THRONES: The Rains of Castamere Review (Article) - 6/4/2013 8:37:49 AM

Wiseguy, I may be biased because I have formed my opinions from the books in which you get Jon's point of view and his thought process.  Plus the scene went down just a little  bit different in the books, it was at night for one thing.  I can see how it looks from a TV viewer's take though. 

GAME OF THRONES: The Rains of Castamere Review (Article) - 6/4/2013 8:14:40 AM

Wiseguy, Jon is a a man of the Nightswatch and he is going to warn Castle Black of the impending attack.      That is one thing the producers really messed up in season two when they cut out a scene between Jon and Quorin Halfhand where Quorin orders Jon to do what ever it took to integrate into the Wildlings.  Now that Jon is back on the south side of the Wall with knowledge of Mance's plans he feels it is time to return to the Watch.  (kind of not sure if the show discussed a Horn? that is intentionally vague to not give anything away if they cut that part and I don't remember)

GAME OF THRONES: The Rains of Castamere Review (Article) - 6/4/2013 8:07:33 AM

I remember reading the Red Wedding and knew from outside sources that something was coming. It is told from Catlyn’s point of view, and I wasn’t a big fan of hers but I definitely sympathized with her then. I felt bad for Rob and Grey Wind and really hated the Frey’s for it and I think I wanted to see Walder Frey staked down to his precious bridge and have normal horse traffic trample him.

One thing they showed in the show but didn’t really explain was the arrival when everybody takes bread and salt under the Frey’s roof. I don’t think the following is really a SPOILER but want to warn peeps just in case. This ritual is a sign that you have been welcomed as a guest and are safe while there. There apparently are some religious superstitions about breaking that tradition both for those that follow the Old Gods and those that follow the Seven. Not sure what the Red God R’holler’s take on it is, but as Roy Munson would say he is probably “against it”. I’m just glad they showed it even if they didn’t explain it.

I didn’t even like Talisa, but her getting stabbed was probably the most disturbing scene, especially with the sound effects that went along with it. Maybe it was because she wasn’t in the books and I didn’t know what her fate would be. I figured she would be killed there, but I also thought it slightly possible she could have been a Lannister agent as well.

Ddiaz I went out and found that OtakuAssemble’s review yesterday. He had been spoiled a while back for the Red Wedding and you’re right he has lost his enthusiasm for the show so it was kind of a let down.

Book talk and possible spoilers below:

So I guess the scene where Rob and Cat discuss Rob considering legitimizing Jon as his heir and the possibility that he did go through with it may not be as important now? Not that I thought it was super important but was always curious about that group he sent out.

Wonder if they will show the desecrated corpses of Rob and Grey Wind?

No Cold Hands yet, but I don’t think they will show him. I know there are a lot of theories that Cold Hands is Benjen, and showing him could prove the theories correct or false. Unless they had Cold Hands face covered or something.

I think this is the point in the books where Dany’s story started to irritate me some except for the random conversations with Barriston about Rheagar and the past. It seems like she is a favorite of a lot of show watchers and I wonder if they too will start to cool on Dany.

There have probably been several more comments in the time I took to write this.

Game Of Thrones: Mhysa Preview (Article) - 6/3/2013 12:59:55 PM

I figured this preview post would have more responses than normal, as people don't want to wait for the review topic. 

When I was reading the Red Wedding, I was already just thinking in my mind that no one is safe, so it didn't affect me as much as it did others.   Though I did hate the Frays after that, especially Walder and Black Walder.   I've said it several times that Rob is more fleshed out in the show than he was in the books, so it actually bothered me more in the show even though I knew it was coming.   I figured Talisa was going to get killed to, since she was not in the book, but it was pretty brutal to see a pregnant woman get repeatedly stabbed in the stomach like that.

I got more, but I'll save it for the review thread.  If anybody ever saw the YouTube video a fan made during season one, something along the lines of "They killed my "urban slang", Ned, I really wonder what that dudes reaction to the Red Wedding would be, though he may have started reading the books.

GAME OF THRONES: SECOND SONS Review (Article) - 5/24/2013 2:03:22 PM

 Another reason for Catelyn to want to kill Joffery, remember it turned out to be Joffery who sent the assassin to kill Bran with the fancy Valyrian dagger while he was convelessing from his fall way back in season one.  

GAME OF THRONES: SECOND SONS Review (Article) - 5/21/2013 8:31:29 AM

 liked this episode.  I don't care for Daario in the books, and the actor they got to play him is not what I imagined.   I must have not paid attention to his description, but I always pictured him  as darker of skin and hair.  Not too into a lot of Dany's current storyline currently.

Diaz , I had a similar feeling about Melisandre and the leeches.  They left it kind of ambiguous.   I think Davos may have played a part.   I did not like the seduction scene, despite the pretty naked lady.  That just felt off.  i wonder what they'll do with Gendry now?  Will they do something similar to what they did with Edric Storm, the character whose plot Gendry is taking over somewhat?  That would be my guess, although they probably go in a slightly different direction.  Also, I think you will have to wait till the following Sunday for the next episode due to this weekend being Memorial Day.   These next two eps should be crazy, but I'm thinkng some stuff could get put off till next season, tough to tell since the build up points to a lot going down soon.

Is it just me or does it seem like they are catching up to the books really fast?  I guess it could be the way books three and four's timelines worked that has me thinking they are close to book five material.

Fall TV Schedule 2013 (Article) - 5/17/2013 2:52:24 PM

All a reviewer needs is Netflix or maybe Amazon Prime to catch up on all the eps of OUAT before the new season starts.  That's how I found it.  I subscribed to Netflix streaming last year thinking the new eps of Arrested Develepment were already on there and ended up keeping it, and by the end of the month I'll see all those eps too.

GAME OF THRONES: THE CLIMB Review (Article) - 5/9/2013 11:02:28 AM

Little late to the comments on this episode, was on vacation.

Favorite part was seeing Melisandre and Thoros speaking.   Like it was mentioned by other commenters, that is new to us book readers.  In fact I'm not sure if we have ever seen two of the Red Priests meet.  I'm sure Martin signed off on that change.  Melisandre meeting Arya and telling her of the darkness in her was interesting.  It kind of changes up some things in book 5, this meeting.  Originally I think it was some random lady that told Arya she had darkness in her, I don't recall the scene in the books very well, but that line stood out as important to me when it happened. 


Now to comment to some of the SPOILERS comments.

Count me as a firm believer of the R plus L equal J theory.  It seemed obvious way back in book 1 and only has had more evidence given to support it.

As far as Aegon, I still think he might be a fake or the "mummer's dragon".  Not sure yet.

We assume (thoughI believe he did) that Rob legitimized Jon, but we don't know for sure yet.  Need to see that document.

So how is Melisandre going to be fooled by a fake Arya's face on the show now?   In book 5 she thinks she sees Arya in her flames, but due to the change the show made, having her meet Arya kind of forces that to be changed or scrapped later on.   It seemed a pretty important part of Jon's decisions if I recall.


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