Mania Box Office Report: The Kaiju and Jaegar Fall Comments -


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hfc7036 7/15/2013 3:28:10 PM

 If Del Toro does Godzilla, it'll be AMAZING, but will it actually draw people's attention?  Who can tell these days.

VinJoy 7/15/2013 4:32:19 PM

It may have something to do with showings. At my favorite theatre it is showin 5 times a day while Man of Steele is 7 times a day.

@redhairs99 Nobody seems to have an answer for you on why they bashed MOS for having great action. I personally enjoyed it and I feel this grittier Superman is from the Justice League where the stories are more complex and serious.

redhairs99 7/15/2013 5:25:07 PM

 VinJoy, same here.  I just don't get the complaints.  I thought everyone on here has picked up a comic book at some point.  It's all right there in tri-color print.

TheSeeeker 7/15/2013 6:24:03 PM

Pacific Rim was AWESOME ....a visual masterpiece ....Despicable Me 2 is the family film the wife is going to force the father to take the wife and kids too weekend that family man is going to ditch the wife at home and take the kids to see Pacific Rim. Word of mouth will spread ..this movie is the one kids will want to see ...and the movie their fathers ALSO want to see.

blankczech 7/15/2013 11:14:11 PM crack me up

CyanideRush 7/16/2013 4:40:45 AM

VinJoy and RedHairs, I've gotten to the point where I'm rolling my eyes each time Rehairs brings it up. It's not helping your point at all. I moderately liked MOS but your constant bringing up the destruction is pushing me into dislike territory. Don't take "isn't replying" to mean "I won the argument". I'm simply so sick of having to state this.

Last time, and in context of Pacific Rim: You're making a poor analogy, comparing these two films. Superman's purpose is to be the paragon of goodness. In the thousands of books we've seen him span, he's gone out of his way to take punishing blow after punishing blow to AVERT WHOLE SALE CIVILIAN casualties. In those comics you're refering to, even if he cannot save everyone, his internal monologue is telling us that his mind is racing in the attmept to. MOS does not at all show or tell us this. In fact, for all that we see, he isn't even really thinking about or considering it. Joel's pointed toward Superman Unchained in a number of replies to you regarding this issue. Have you read it? You should because in two issues it demonstrates exactly why the MOS potrayal is broken.

If you have to ask why whole sale city destruction is ok in a Kaiju film, I have to ask if you've ever seen one. The reason no one is complaining about it PR is because it's expected. No one in PR is an invincible god being, who's been written for nearly a century as a protector of human life at all cost to himself. Giant Monsters fist fight Giant Robots in major metropolitan areas. This is exactly every kiaju film ever. It's part of the spectacle. It's not part of Superman to let that many people die. 

I'm so sick of this argument. You enjoyed MOS, and that's great (really, no sarcasm). It isn't precicely the level of desctruction that put every one else off- it's superman's lack of turmoil over it and his lack of action to save people. Seriously, stop bringing it up in every context you can; you're losing supporters, not gaining them, in your earnest furvor. It doesn't even work in the context of PR because audiences EXPECT cities to be stomped on. Seriously, please read Superman Unchained #1 and #2.  

redhairs99 7/16/2013 7:11:50 AM

Really getting tired of Mania not posting my replies.

Chuck, sorry if you feel I'm trying to win any arguments. That's not my purpose at all. I'm merely asking questions and engaging with my fellow Maniacs. I'm not trying to bring it up every possible chance I get. Merely bringing it up where applicable. To me, I see no difference between giant monsters and robots versus superheroes. And, I believe you did bring it up in one of your Kaiju articles last week. I only responded then because you mentioned it.

redhairs99 7/16/2013 7:12:36 AM

 I haven't read those Superman Unchained comics, so I might need to pick them up. I just don't think it was totally necessary for MoS to go into any internal monologues or such. It would be nice in the sequel though to have him save a few individuals here and there from falling debris, yes. I chalk it up to being his first day on the job and he's only now discovering who he is and why he's on Earth.
I have seen a lot of Kaiju films, and I liked them. Sure, I'm not as in love with them as some of my fellow Maniacs, but I do like them. I liked Pacific Rim as well.

I think we all get sick of the same old arguments back and forth on here whether it's Marvel versus DC or the folks on here who think Nolan's Batman movies are terrible. This is just another one.

CyanideRush 7/16/2013 7:14:54 AM

 Redhairs, I mentioned as a throw away, half line joke in one of the kaiju lists (perhaps six words out of twelve hundred). 

If you really don't see a thematic difference between the chaos in PR and MOS, then I'm afraid that we don't have enough common ground to hold a continued discussion. I get that you're passionate about the point, but you may be ignoring most of what I just said to  defend that point, so a dialogue isn't possible on it.

CyanideRush 7/16/2013 7:16:03 AM

 (Was replying to your first reply post, second one appeared while I was typing)

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