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ElBaz13 4/11/2014 12:30:32 PM

I also don't think MOS was bad. I liked elements of it and prefered it over any of the Nolan Batman movies.

But, it still needed work.

A good article over at fool dot com. "Why a Wisecracking Raccoon Will Lead 'Guardians of the Galaxy' to Box Office Glory"

Seriously. A f.ucking talking raccoon and still no Flash, Wonder Woman or Aquaman movie.

 

Woodye 4/11/2014 12:33:23 PM

I don't know why people are so worried about the "glut" of superhero films.  i say why not?  I mean you don'y see someone saying "ANOTHER COMEDY?" and then proclaim that Comedies have run their course.

In recent years with the advent of "found footage" films, I thought that THAT particular genre would have come and gone quickly, yet it still exists.  And what of the comedy sub-genre...the Spoof film?  I mean I thought they hit absolute rock bottom with EPIC MOVIE and I think there was a disaster spoof movie as well...and a sports spoof movie too...and yet they still cranked out Scary Movie sequels...and "A Haunted House" (which has a sequel coming if I am not mistaken).

So what I am saying is...Superhero movies...now that CGI is so readily available....are here to stay.

And as for DC fumbling the ball, well cut them some slack.  I can understand why they don't want to copy Marvel's game plan...but all the same...they too have a cohesive universe so it makes nothing but good sense to expand their universe in the movie theaters.  I can also unerstand how they would be gun shy after Superman Returns was less than stellar and Green Lantern suffered from Galactus Syndrome (ie : The villain was a sentient fart cloud...just yellow this time)...but the Batman movies were pretty damn solid.  I think they owe it to the fans to give them what they want.....which is a cohesive universe which is filled with the same little cameos and name checks that Marvel cross polinated their movies with. 

keithdaniel 4/11/2014 12:41:56 PM

Eldogg, there's no one in MOS that I would deem as acting terrible.  What I said was that I didn't think most of the actors were well cast because they didn't bring enough personality, were one dimensional, and didn't have a good enought script to work with.  So it seems we agree on at least the latter reason.  They weren't nearly as good as the cast in Donner's Superman because they failed for the reasons listed to bring any personality to those roles.  I also don't think Zack Snyder should've directed this despite his talent and past success.  His vision for MOS was too dark for my liking.   

DarthBob 4/11/2014 1:20:44 PM

What Joker should have said in TDK is, "Does DC/WB look like a studio that has a plan?"

What fans get from WB/DC is a villain that sounds like he's speaking through a headset at a fast food drive thru window and a chiropractor Superman that kills people by cervical dislocation while trashing an entire city in the process.  Also, the whole Pa Kent tornado death scene was down right laughable.  Just keep it grounded and all dark and gritty DC/WB.

KungPow 4/11/2014 1:26:59 PM

 A game of chicken DC will lose, because Marvel can afford to.  If DC keeps their date, which they won't, then I will go and see CA3 about 5 times that weekend.  Not that I don't want to see Batfleck vs Supes, but WB needs to move it because they are stupid.  Actually I don't want to see Batfleck at all, because Affleck sucks IMO.

lazarus 4/11/2014 1:29:36 PM

You know the funny thing. If you took some of the tone and best elements from Donners first Superman and combine it with this MOS. It would have been EPIC for DC. Superman needed a little less paranoia and more boyscoutness. Many think that is outdated and cheesy but as Cap proved, being a little of that can go a long way. Agreed on the Pa Kent death scene. It was stupid and forced. Superman doesn't have enough imagination to RESCUE  his father in that situation....well he is a less than Superman.

fft5305 4/11/2014 1:48:43 PM

I think it's a moot point. It's two years away. The way movies go, one of them will change between now & then with absolutely no connection to the fact that these two movies are up against each other. Movies move their release dates all the time over the course of production. Too many variables to hit an exact date two years away.

That being said, if they do stick with the dates, it would really depend on how the trailers looked. Despite the fact that I'm primarily a Marvel-ite, I would probably go see MoS2 first. I've seen two Cap movies already. I've waited probably 35 years to see Superman and Bats on the same screen together.

nemesis1_57 4/11/2014 4:46:51 PM

 If DC cares about making Justice League they need to move BM vs.SM. They people to see and experience what the DCU well look like and the tone it will have.  Marvel has well established themselves DC really hasn't. 

blankczech 4/11/2014 5:29:32 PM

 To an outside observer who has no stake in this, the Marvel / DC arguments seem very similar to Ford vs. GM debates. I know this stuff seems important to you guys but to the rest of us Marvel & DC seem like essentially the same thing... good guys in funny costumes each with unique powers battling bad guys in funny outfits with different powers. The movies provide stress free fun, because we all know in advance that the good guys always win...they have to come back in 2 or 3 years to fight new bad guys.

My guess is that everyone commenting here will see both movies. Does it really matter which one you watch first?

As for the question of Super Hero movies reaching their saturation point. I don't think that many commenting here will ever tire of them (it's your passion). These movies will always have an audience. The problem lies in the fact that they require a huge audience (well beyond just a bunch of devoted fanboys) to offset the incredible costs required to produce them (which explains why most of them are very kid / family friendly). The movie going public is a fickle mistress. If said public stops turning out en masse to see these movies then Disney and Warner Bros. will have to scale down those exhorbitant costs one way or the other. Hence Super Hero movie fans should be patient / understanding if these movies don't follow the old comics you grew up with, verbatim. Anything that grows the audience for these films (like ethnic diversity) helps keep them around. The final hurdle to jump is societal change...will people keep going to the movies with all these new streaming devices, 3D/HD TV's, surround sound systems etc. coming out monthly and will they keep buying DVD's when movie downloads can be bought and stored in the cloud.

Miner49er 4/11/2014 8:36:26 PM

 Cap 3 first for me!

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