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My Thoughts on FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER

By: Kurt Amacker
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Greetings, Maniacs, and welcome to another Comicscape adventure at the movies! I rarely see movies in the theater these days. Between the incessant chatter, the rising ticket prices, the ridiculous levels of air conditioning, and the overpriced concessions, I prefer to wait for DVD. I hardly live and die by this rule, but I make little effort to actually go to the movies anymore. But, when comic book adaptations arrive at the theater, so do I. Hence, last Sunday, I crawled out of bed in my normal fashion – tired, hung-over, and dressed in black – to see the earliest matinee of Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer that I could find. Sometimes, AMC shows movies at 10:00 a.m. Sometimes, while everyone else attends church or lies in bed, I sit in a dark theater thinking, “What is this crap?” Before we begin, know that spoilers lurk below. And, for next week, write me with your thoughts on the film at comicscape@mania.com or kurtamacker@yahoo.com. I’ll run your letters with my witty retorts in the next Comicscape.
 
Reed Richards (Ioan Gruffud) and Sue Storm (Jessica Alba) want desperately to wed, but the business of saving the world has delayed their nuptials repeatedly. Shortly before their latest attempt, the military approaches Reed Richards about a flying object from space that causes massive electrical disturbances and anomalous weather. It leaves giant craters in its wake, creates snow in Egypt, and awakens Victor Von Doom. Against Sue’s wishes, Reed builds an apparatus for tracking and detecting it. As they stand at the altar, the flying object inadvertently crashes the wedding. Johnny Storm – Chris Evans, as the Human Torch – takes off after it. He discovers a silver man on a surfboard. Needless to say, Reed and Sue postpone the wedding again. Johnny Storm’s encounter with the alien allows him to absorb the powers of the other members of the team, to Ben Grimm’s (Michael Chiklis) great amusement. Ultimately, they learn that the Silver Surfer (Doug Jones, voiced by Laurence Fishburne) heralds Galactus, an alien force that eats worlds. Radd himself feels sympathy for the plight of Earth, but works for Galactus in exchange for the sparing of his own planet. All well and good, except that the military wants the resurrected Victor Von Doom (Julian McMahon) to help the Fantastic Four bring down the Surfer so they can interrogate him. Needless to say, Doom has a few ideas of his own for the Surfer and the board that gives him his power. 
 
Make no mistake, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer fails on so many levels that it achieves an almost perfect storm of mediocrity. And yet, it achieves a kind of peace with itself by playing as nothing more than a children’s film. The first film made a few half-hearted gestures towards a serious story, but ultimately failed for its bevy of stupid jokes, horrible special effects, and pandering subplots.  I will never forgive the extreme sports scene in the arena with Johnny Storm – not ever. But, the few aspects that worked made the film’s downfall that much more frustrating, because the potential showed through a couple of times. But, Rise of the Silver Surfer wholeheartedly embraces its role as a mediocre family film, like something you’d see on the Disney Channel. The relationships and conflicts between the characters rarely rise above those found in your average episode of Full House
 
The business of costumed adventuring keeps delaying Reed and Sue’s wedding. That seems reasonable enough, but the two only settle for a small, private ceremony at the film’s conclusion. The entire film maintains a made-for-television spirit throughout with wooden performances, obvious jokes, and ridiculous misunderstandings worthy of The Golden Girls. Creating a prolonged conflict over the delayed wedding feels as contrived as the inevitable misunderstanding that happens at the end of so many romantic comedies. Your hot ex gave you one last good-bye kiss, which your current squeeze witnessed, causing her to buy a plane ticket to take that job in Bangladesh. How ever will you and your obnoxious, but lovable friend delay the flight? If a screenwriter and director can’t rule out common sense answers to the conflicts within a film, they need to rethink their story. 
 
To the film’s credit, it briefly examines the very real question of how one maintains relationships and family in a dangerous, time-consuming occupation. The divorce rate in the United States military is high for a reason. But, it relegates that promising angle to Johnny Storm overhearing Reed and Sue’s conversation about dissolving the team. Storm tells Ben Grimm, they get mad, they confront Reed and Sue, and the team stays together. The film never once achieves the delicate balance of allowing the audience to wonder if, in fact, the team might really break up at the film’s end. 
 
Speaking of Ben Grimm, the film sidelines him, along with his blind girlfriend, Alicia Masters. While Chiklis has a few cute moments, he remains mostly inconsequential to the story. Chiklis stood out among the cast of the last film, and he’s largely wasted here. His relationship with Masters could provide fertile ground for exploring a truly unconventional romance, but it never breaches that territory beyond a joke about how they manage to have sex (we never find out, if you were wondering). What little heart this film has belongs to the Silver Surfer. Fishburne’s voice works perfectly for the character, and he steals every scene he’s on camera. After a great turn as Abe Sapien in Hellboy, Doug Jones provides an expressively alien physical presence as the man in the surfer suit. Julian McMahon plays Dr. Doom as a whiny twit without a shred of menace. It’s even worse when the Surfer’s energy heals him and he takes off the mask. His brief stint helping the Fantastic Four practically reduces him to the Annoying Neighbor part in this sitcom-writ-large. Alba does what she does best as Sue Storm – look hot in a Barbie doll kind of way. Other than the mediocre script they have to recite, Gruffud and Evans play the Reed Richards and Johnny Storm well enough, respectively. Galactust is, in fact, a giant space cloud. It’s stupid, but it’s not worth losing anymore sleep over at this point. At one point, we see the shadow of the original character’s head move across the face of Saturn, but that’s about it. Otherwise, “It’s a twister! It’s a twister!”
 
The real problem remains the film’s overall tone, which extinguishes any hope for the performances. While a Fantastic Four movie should play lighter and more comedic than something like Batman Begins, neither of the two films has achieved the kitschy, pop art sensibility of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby’s run on the title. And, I wonder if a “straight” adaptation of the material could ever hope to achieve that tone. It almost seems that an adaptation akin to Sky Captain, Sin City, or even Tim Burton’s Batman – one fully aware of its exaggerated comic book world – would serve the material better. But, a straight comedic-action approach still doesn’t work when the film rarely elicits more than a chuckle. 
 
Kids might find this funny and entertaining, but the film offers little in the way of lasting value. The best children’s films continue to resonate with us as we age. I appreciated Star Wars on one level at five years old. I appreciate it on a very different one at 26 years old. I like The Incredibles, as well – a film that outperforms both Fantastic Four movies on its own terms. I doubt anyone will look back on seeing this film with the sort of nostalgia we reserve for Superman or Raiders of the Lost Ark. But, admittedly, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer aspires to nothing beyond light family entertainment. In that regard, it stunningly and exactly hits all the right notes for a mediocre summer time-waster. If that’s all the director and the studio want, they can have at it. But, there are greater treasures awaiting discovery, and I see no reason to waste time on the cinematic equivalent of cotton candy – at best a guilty pleasure beloved by children and of no substance whatsoever.
 
Now, what do you think?
 
Before I go – I and three of my friends will be spinning Goth, death rock, and ethereal music this Friday night at the Dragon’s Den in New Orleans, upstairs at 435 Esplanade Avenue. Our roguish crew of DJs will be putting on an event called A Midsummer Night’s Dream, in honor of William Shakespeare’s play of the same name. The event begins at 11:00 p.m. and there’s no cover. Faerie costumes are encouraged, but not required, with giveaways provided by More Fun Comics and Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab. The admittance policy is 18 years and older. If anyone has a perverse desire to meet me in person, now’s your chance.
 
The Spinner Rack
By Ben Johnson and Kurt Amacker
 
DARK HORSE COMICS
 
Aliens Omnibus Vol 1 TP $24.95
Kurt: I really like this move towards phonebook-sized omnibus collections. It saves a hell of a lot of time for everyone.
 
Banya Explosive Delivery Man Vol 4 TP $12.95
Kurt: “Here’s your pizza, and—NOT AGAIN!” BLAM!
 
Classic Peanuts Character #6 Peppermint Patty Statue $39.95
Ben: In case your collection wasn’t ambiguously gay enough.
 
Conan #41 (MR) $2.99
 
Grendel Archive Edition HC $14.95
Ben: I used to really look forward to these books. Maybe I’ll pick this up for old time’s sake.
 
Maxwell Strangewell GN $19.95
Ben: If the GN stands for Gets Naked I know Kurt will be all over it.
Kurt: I’m just looking for an excuse to take my pants off.
 
Oh My Goddess Vol 5 TP $10.95
 
Rex Mundi DH Ed #6 $2.99
 
Star Wars 30th Anniv Coll HC Vol 5 Light & Dark $24.95
 
DC COMICS
 
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Army @ Love #4 (MR) $2.99
 
Batman Spawn Statue $225.00
Ben: If you know anyone who buys this post his name here so that we can publicly humiliate him. If you buy it, give yourself a swirly for being the biggest loser ever.
Kurt: If you buy this, I decree that you hereby reinstate your virginity and I sentence you to experience high school all over again – this time with extra bullies.
 
Brave And The Bold #4 $2.99
 
Catwoman #68 $2.99
 
Checkmate #15 $2.99
 
Countdown #45 $2.99
Ben: I am really enjoying this. DC made a good move sticking with a single lead writer on this series.
Kurt: It’s all right, but it hasn’t really felt like a “must-read” like 52 did during its first half.
 
Ex Machina #29 (MR) $2.99
Ben: As much as I’ve enjoyed this book overall the last year has been status quo. The current arc is going a long way to shaking that up.
 
Flash The Fastest Man Alive #13 $2.99
Ben: After the travesty that was the first few issues this has become one of my must reads.
 
Hellblazer #233 (MR) $2.99
 
Highwaymen #1 (Of 5) $2.99
Kurt: Featuring Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson! Country’s biggest outlaws come together to—wait, wrong Highwaymen. Damn.
 
JSA Presents Stars And Stripes Vol 1 TP $17.99
 
Justice League Of America #10 $2.99
 
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Ben: It’s another GN for you Kurt! Everything’s coming up roses!
Kurt: Look, man, it doesn’t take much for me to get stark, raving nude.
 
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Ben: I wasn’t sure if this book would be any good, but I can’t wait to see the end of the “Take Off Your Pants and Jacket” arc. Story of the year!
 
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Kurt: Well, that’s not very specific.
 
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Ben: I hope Manga Punisher will make an appearance in this one! 
Kurt: That Witchblade/Punisher crossover was way better than it had any right to be.
 
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Ben: Better than Civil War, better than Infinite Crisis, better than 52, the best cross over event in years finally has a sequel.
 
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Kurt: It’s nice that we didn’t have to wait three months again. I still love you, Ed Brubaker.
 
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Ben: I don’t want to go all Comic Book Guy, but there is no way that most of these heroes taking on the Hulk could last one round. 
Kurt: I don’t think Ghost Rider can really be killed, though, can he? Oh man, that’s such a nerd question.
 
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Ben: I’m not really into sword and sorcery stuff, but the Dabel Bros. titles continue to impress.
 
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Ben: Like this. There is no way HFH could stand up to the Hulk.
Kurt: Especially if he’s got tentacles on his side!
 
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Iron Man #19 WWH $2.99
Ben: What I want to see more than anything else is Stark and his cronies admit their extreme guilt for blowing up a planet, killing everyone including Hulk’s unborn child. If you can’t tell, WWH is probably my most anticipated mega event ever.
Kurt: Good, then you can write a guest column about it.
 
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Marvel Adventures Flip Magazine #26 $4.99
 
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Marvel Heroes Flip Magazine #26 $4.99
 
Marvel Spotlight Captain America Remembered $2.99
Ben: I hate Spotlight. It cheapens everything.
Kurt: Yeah, these are kind of like a little slice of Wizard, in all its crap-tacular glory.
 
Mighty Avengers Most Wanted Files $3.99
 
Moon Knight #11 CWI $2.99
Ben: Get ready Knight #12, a lot of butt is coming your way next. I’m going to keep using this one until you get it.
Kurt: Look, I’m not mooning a knight of any number. I’m just not into big guys in armor.
 
Mythos Spider-Man $3.99
 
Orson Scott Cards Wyrms #5 (Of 6) $2.99
Ben: I think my dog got these.
 
Sensational Spider-Man #38 $2.99
Ben: Return of Eddie Brock.
 
Spider-Man Fantastic Four #3 (Of 4) $2.99
 
Thunderbolts Guardian Protocols TP $10.99
 
Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 3 HC $29.99
 
Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 8 Devils TP $12.99
 
Ultimate Spider-Man #110 $2.99
Ben: Second to last Bagley issue.
 
X-Men Endangered Species One-Shot $3.99
 
X-Men First Class HC $24.99
Kurt: I heard this was pretty good, but I haven’t read it. I only just started getting Uncanny X-Men because the mighty Brubaker writes it. But, if anyone wants to let me know how it is, speak up. I’m out of here!
 
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SinisterPryde • Jun 20, 2007, 02:28am •
Flash The Fastest Man Alive #13 $2.99

Ben: After the travesty that was the first few issues this has become one of my must reads.


And now its canceled. Way to go, Ben.

Merin • Jun 20, 2007, 09:45am •
Well, opinions clearly vary. FF2 is probably close to my favorite movie this year - thinking - hmmm, 300 or FF2 - hmmm, ok, 300 was better because I love the seriousness and amazing focus that story kept. But FF2 was far more fun and entertaining (time wise, if nothing else - yay for a movie under 2 hours) than Spidey or Pirates.

I think it is an important step in considering the reviews of critics to understand where they are coming from. On Mania I often will put forth any biases or prejudices that may influence my opinion first before reviewing.

Kurt, your tearing FF2 to shreds for being "light family entertainment" is a window. Your liking Punisher so much is another glimpse. But when you posted at the end about how you are DJing goth and death rock music at the Dragon's Den - ok, it should be pretty clear where your preferred taste of entertainment lies.
And that's fine. It really is. Also, I hope you have a great turn-out - I'm not mocking your choice of music or anything. Have a blast! :)
All I mean is that your attraction to the darker, more tragic side of art clearly influences you. Again, that is fine. Its ok if your favorite Star Wars movies are Empire and Revenge.

Anyway, as I said at the start - I really liked FF2. Of course I enjoyed FF as well, but this one had the Silver Surfer. Surfer was portrayed very well, and I'm more than happy as a result.

X-Men First Class was a great read, one of the better "retellings" of the first days of the original X-Men (yeah, I said that - Deadly Genesis was a horrible retcon on the magnitude of a planet full of crap) and I highly recommend it to anyone who's a fan of the original team, or simpler days for the X-Men.
If you don't want to read about teen super-heroes in school and guest spots of other Marvel characters from Thor to the Lizard, then skip it.

Ben - I'm almost there with you. Annihilation was SO much better than Civil War. Better than 52 or IC? Eh - I'll give it equal, but I can completely understand why you'd rank Annihilation higher. The first issue, then the four minis, then the conclusion - it was VERY well done.
Almost as well done as when it happened the first time - you know, the Negation Wars over in Crossgen. Yeah, Annihilation was on many levels that story. At least Marvel didn't go belly up before finishing the arc. I miss Crossgen.

Anyone else get a kick out of Nova telling off Stark?
Stark "Richard, you MUST register. Its the law!"
Rider "Uh, Tony? I'm an intergalactic officer with the full weigh of the Nova Corps. behind me. I police the universe. I'm a bit above your law at this point."
Stark "We just fought a Civil War down here over a fascist, I mean NECESSARY, law. We need you on the right side."
Rider *blink* "Uhm, I just fought off a dimensional invasion and witnessed the death of billions, whole worlds - your little power play here means nothing to me."

And then he flies off earth, leaving because the whole place has (in his estimation) gone crazy. He leaves JUST IN TIME to NOT help with the Hulk.

Yeah, I loved Tony getting his can smashed by Hulk. And beating the crap out of Black Bolt. I feel a twinge of pity for Dr. Strange - but Reed deserves to be tied into knots even a former boy scout sailor couldn't undo. I liked it so much that I bought that issue, and plan on buying most of the rest of WWHulk.

larkcall • Jun 20, 2007, 10:40am •
Sinister, Flash is not being canceled, only renumbered.

gauleyboy420 • Jun 20, 2007, 11:54am •
Dude you are the worst kind of critic. You obviously are going to only
like the genre of movies that fit your very narrow taste. "my normal
fashion/dressed in black" is telling of you taste in life. As well as
the last line when you should be reviewing a film, you are plugging
your gig spinning death metal goth. If you can't be un biased when
reviewing a movie GET A NEW JOB!
Have you ever read a FF comic book? Obviously not. The fantastic four
is not a team of Superheroes, it is a FAMILY of superheroes. You
should understand that from the 30+ years of the comics, and the first
movie. It is not supposed to be grim (no pun intended) Although I have
read some serious FF comic story lines. They really shine when they
are acting as an typical American family (i.e. dysfunctional). The
obnoxious and loudmouthed little brother (Torch), The mom and dad (Sue
and Reed), and the the loving but overbearing uncle, (The Thing).
You mentioned it was like an episode of Full House (whats a goth
master like you doing watching Full House?) Well that's because they
are a full house of superheroes. It was supposed to be fun, an
adventure, just like the comics. Admittedly there were things about
the movie that could've been better, but overall it was a great ride
(better than Spiderman 3). Learn to criticize constructively without
letting your narrow Gothic view of the world turn everything black, or
stick to reviewing Marylin Manson records.
I tried to be objective in this review of your review, but your stance
is just so asinine, I gotta say it GET A NEW JOB!

agentkooper • Jun 20, 2007, 12:00pm •
"Flash The Fastest Man Alive #13 $2.99

Ben: After the travesty that was the first few issues this has become one of my must reads.

And now its canceled. Way to go, Ben."

Larkcall is right, it is not cancelled, but if it was how would that be my fault?

Merin - Loved the Nova and Stark interaction.

Better yet was when he started reading the Thunderbolts their rights.

sasquatchb • Jun 20, 2007, 01:01pm •
gauleyboy420:
I find it sad that you don't see the contradictions in your rant.
At the end, you write "Learn to criticize constructively without letting your narrow Gothic view of the world turn everything black..."

It's advice you should follow. You even concede to your inability to practice what you preach in your next sentence:
"I tried to be objective in this review of your review, but..."
But nothing.
You based your entire argument on the types of clothes Kurt wears and the type of music he prefers. You put him in a box, claiming that these are the reasons he could never like a movie like FF. Even though he cites The Incredibles as an example of the formula done right. (And I wholeheartedly agree. When I saw The Incredibles in the theater I knew FF had it's work cut out for it. And ultimately, FF failed to deliver.)
Statements like "whats a goth master like you doing watching Full House?" serve to exemplify how narrow your worldview is.

Things can only fit in one box or another for you. Everything is compartmentalized. It's unfathomable to think that maybe someone who appreciates something you don't can have anything in common with you.

And your rant, filled with undercurrents of hostility, is supposedly about being unbiased.

Take a step back, see what you've written, and tell me who is being asinine.


smegforbrain • Jun 20, 2007, 01:18pm •
I'm curious: does Kurt get paid to write for this site?

Because when I read the review of somebody who's paid to write said review, then I expect a different level and method of critiquing than I would expect of someone like gauley, who isn't getting paid to give his opinion.

And, yeah, I agree that Kurt's review is pretty biased against the film. I felt like I was rereading that review from the guy at the New York Post who thinks all comics are '5th grade level'.

gauleyboy420 • Jun 20, 2007, 01:49pm •
sasquatchb
Ah truly humor is dead in this pc world.
It's called tongue in cheek, and a little bit of sarcasm. (both need some level of intelligence to understand)
I was intending my post to illustrate his biased review by being biased myself.
And by the way his multiple mentioning of his lifestyle (clearly goth) have no relevance in a review of a film. I am not bashing those who like the goth genre, It just shouldn't be a factor in reviewing movies. If dark grisly things are his bag, great. Just keep in mind the FF is a family oriented superhero group.
My argument is based on his inability to review this film without letting his own preferences influencing it.

Well said smegforbrain, if you are reviewing a movie keep in mind the type of movie you are reviewing, and if he is indeed being paid for his service, his bosses should have a little sit down with him on this matter.
As for my posting, hey it's the Internet and I can rant about what I see fit (I'm definitely not receiving compensation for my views, just a sick sort of narcissistic release.

lister • Jun 20, 2007, 02:25pm •
"My Thoughts on FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER"

I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that Kurt didn't like it. Now let me go read this week's column and find out.

lister • Jun 20, 2007, 02:25pm •
DING! DING! DING! I guessed the soup!

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