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SarcasticCaveman 3/21/2013 4:34:24 PM

 Laz - just curious, how old were you back in 1986?  I remember PLENTY of people rolling their eyes and calling Star Trek IV, "Star Trek: Save the Whales"...I remember a lot of Trekkies not really caring for it, not just because of the social message, but because of the "over the top" comedy and one-liners...they stopped that talk pretty quickly once Star Trek V came out though.  I always liked Star Trek IV though.  I don't share your opinion that it's the best of the originals (IMO, it's definitely Wrath of Khan), but I definitely enjoyed it and still enjoy it, comedy and all.  And come on, some comedy and levity were needed - first they kill Spock, then they kill Kirk's son, then they kill the ENTERPRISE...heavy shit, man.  All that said, I think the RIGHT social message will still work in a Star Trek movie perfectly fine.  Look at movies like District 9 and (hate to say it) Avatar.  I think for a social message to work in a movie, it has to obviously and directly affect humans more than hunting whales to extinction.  Why?  Because, yes....I do believe that human beings in general are just that self-centered.

SarcasticCaveman 3/21/2013 4:41:16 PM

 Anyway, onto the preview at hand - with Admiral Marcus saying that the villain is one of their best agents, I'm also convinced it's not Khan...somebody highly trained at the least though...maybe somebody from...Section 31?...that would be awesome.  I have always wanted that bit of the Federation explored further...pretty much a Star Trek spy movie...and the director of Mission Impossible 3 is a great choice to pull it off, IMO.

SarcasticCaveman 3/21/2013 4:53:14 PM

 *Laz - by the way, upon re-reading what my first post says there, just wanted to say, I TOTALLY wasn't trying to sound as condescending as I did when I asked how old you were in 1986.  For the record, I was in 3rd grade...just saying, I remember people back then being displeased with the social message of the movie.

domino2008 3/21/2013 11:45:08 PM

Gezz , I hate to see the Enterprise get trashed already in the second film , if it was the ship We see crashing . And  saw that they Releasing STTMP on blueray at end of march.

wrrlykam 3/22/2013 2:49:35 AM

Which version of TMP is being released. The original cinema release is already out in the UK and I'm waiting for a BD of Rob Wise's Director's Cut.

Kaziklu 3/22/2013 5:45:58 AM

 Khan is a genetically engineered Indian guy from the past (1990s (rulled Asia by 1992)) He was not a Federation Agent. 

VermithraxPejorative 3/26/2013 8:07:45 AM

I LUVS me some Star Trek:TMP!!! My favorite of ALL the Star Trek movies! It SO felt like Star Trek, more-so than any other film of the franchise! The music is fantastic, the Enterprise Fly-By Sequence STILL brings goose-bumps, and I love to gell out and enjoy the V'Ger Cloud Exploration.

ST:TMP gets a LOT of flack from "Star Trek" fans, but IMHO, it is more closely representative of the Star Trek Philosophy than WoK, SfS, or any of the films that came along after it. I liked the Uniforms better. The Wrist Communicators. Just the whole look and feel of it. I don't have BluRay, but I DO have The Directors Cut Extended 2 DVD Edition.

VermithraxPejorative 3/26/2013 11:47:19 AM

Personally, I can't stand either Star Trek IV or V. Both are horrible movies. IV is comedy, and V is just plain stupid. The comedy in IV is so ridiculous, it stopped being funny after the first few jokes. Only a few "one liners" are even memorable (Colorful Metaphores, is one). I was one who "rolled my eyes" at the idea of saving the whales shtick, and THAT A:LONE turned me off and has kept me from liking IV.

Star Trek V is beyond bad. Absolutely one of the worst movies, let alone the worst Star Trek, ever made. Bad acting. Bad story. BAD directing. So-So Visual FX (Why The Shat decided NOT to use ILM is beyond me). Forgettable Characters (even the Klingon Leader was bad). And the whole, "Let's Find God" bit was stupid beyond stupid! When do Religion and Star Trek EVER mix?? NEVER!!!  And the worst line and most poignent one as to how bad this movie was, "Why does God need a Starship?" HOW LAME!!!!! Probably the ONLY thing half-way decent about V is Jerry Goldsmith's music, and that's not even very memorable either.

karas1 3/26/2013 9:30:28 PM

Caveman, you were in 3rd grade in 1986?  I was in college.  And I loved ST IV, my favorite of the movies.  Yeah, it was comedic.  But TOS did comedy occasionally.  Remember Trouble With Tribbles or A Piece of the Action?  I have no problems with a little comedy in ST.

Abrams' movie tried for comedy as well in places.  And I thought it was clumsy and unfunny.

DarkXid 3/27/2013 7:48:14 PM

 No social message?  Anyone see Star Trek IV (I know you mentioned IV)  but what about VI?  They hammer you over the head with the message.   Hell, in VI Kirk stands on the podium and pretty much preaches at the audience.  

I love VI, and I liked IV.  V was sad and pathetic -III was fun.  II was fantastic, but I liked VI better, even with the huge neon sign message.  And Motion Picture?  There isn't enough acid for me to take to make we want to watch it more than once a decade (just to remind me how bad it is).

TMP suffers a lot from the same thing the new star wars movie suffered from.  Too many effects, not enough story.  And the conflict -Admiral Kirk is a complete and total ass in the movie, his treatment of Decker is insane -Captain Decker should have relieved him of command and told him that he was taking over as the officially designated/sanctioned Captain of the Enterprise.  And the Admiral can lodge a complaint with Starfleet.

 

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