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And The New T-800 TERMINATOR Is...?

This could be the new T-800 model.

By Jarrod Sarafin     July 17, 2008
Source: Clinton-News Record

Former bodybuilder Roland Kickinger is the new T-800 in TERMINATOR SALVATION?
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After years of debating whether Arnold would come back into the shoes of his T-800 model, the debate may be finished. The Clinton-News Record is reporting that Roland Kickinger, a former bodybuilder, will now be considered the earlier model of the Skynet line in Terminator Salvation. From the quote of Roland, it looks his youthful age will be contributed to the fact that it's 20 years before Arnold rolled off the production line.

This month, however, Kickinger begins filming what is likely the role of his life to date, as his portion of Terminator Salvation begins to take shape.

"There's a very strong scene in the film where John Connor for the first time meets the Terminator, and he doesn't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy," said Kickinger.

"It's Arnold's character in the first Terminator. That's basically my role, but 20 years before, so it establishes how the Terminator [came] about."

If this bit of news is true, Roland will join Christian Bale, Sam Worthington, Anton Yelchin, Bryce Dallas Howard, Moon Bloodgood, Common, Jadagrace and Helena Bonham Carter. Director McG is leading production, based on a screenplay by John Brancato and Michael Ferris.

Plot Summary: In the highly anticipated new installment of "The Terminator" film franchise, set in post-apocalyptic 2018, Christian Bale stars as John Connor, the man fated to lead the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators. But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington), a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynet's operations, where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind.

Terminator Salvation will hit theaters May 22, 2009.


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Roads 7/17/2008 4:48:15 PM
Maniacs: In the second terminator Arnold says to John that he is a cyberdyne system model 101; however he is a T-800. Now we have Roland and he is also a T-800 but from 20 years earlier. So what we have is T-800's and each individual have it's serial number i.e. Arnold is the T-800 number 101 and before Arnold there are 100 different terminators? (I'm not trying to be wise or funny, I'm really asking you guys).
videocide 7/17/2008 4:58:57 PM
Its possible they could be system model 101, 102 ect. I think most people forget about the system model number om terminators and only remember the series number.This whole T-800 from 20 years earlier doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Is Kyle Reese like 5 years old in this? in the first film he was talking about the 600 series and how the 8oos were new. A lot of the information in the article could be wrong or not presented correctly as it looks like its from a local news paper. Could be total misinformation from the producers.
Wiseguy 7/17/2008 4:59:33 PM
He looks like the perfect Arnold replacement. I know he's technically not his replacement. I thought he was pretty funny in Son of the Beach and even back then I thought he had a resemblance to Arnie. Who knows maybe this'll get his career on the fast track. Roads, I THINK that's the case.
Takhoma 7/17/2008 5:02:49 PM
In Terminator Reese explains to Sarah that in earlier models the skin looked like rubber. That might explain the reason for different model numbers.
gauleyboy420 7/17/2008 5:27:56 PM
Don't forget that in the flashback sequence from Terminator, the Terminator that burst into the hideout of the humans did not look like Arnold (different actor) therefore it is reasonable that all Terminator models (even the same model #) do not look a like
gauleyboy420 7/17/2008 5:30:11 PM
Don't forget that in the flashback sequence from Terminator, the Terminator that burst into the hideout of the humans did not look like Arnold (different actor) therefore it is reasonable that all Terminator models (even the same model #) do not look a like
Pendragon0 7/17/2008 5:45:43 PM
As to the series number, the TV show (and how cannonical that is is debatable) and T3 (which shouldn't be cannon AT ALL in my opinion! lol) they've pretty much established that there ARE deferent models within a series, but unless I'm mistaken, it was different model numbers like T-888, and so forth. Concerning the 'new' terminator, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but is it possible that he's a human that Skynet uses as a basic template for the Terminator flesh-suits? That could account for the 20 year discrepancy. I mean how old was Arnold in the first movie? Mid to late 30's, I think.
dawntreader 7/17/2008 6:29:20 PM
I think that they are going to have a lot of changes that they can blame on the timeline changes from all three of the first movies. Before the first movie Sarah probably met a nice man. He wasn’t from the future, but they had a kid and he became the leader of the resistance. skynet developed a time travel device and sent back a terminator to get rid of the kid. The resistance was a little too late to stop the terminator being sent back. At the end of the first movie there was a wreckage of the first t-800 that had come back. That changed how and when skynet was made. in T2 instead of being a total fluke of hardware and software, skynet became its own child, and if it hadn’t caused more changes in the timeline by sending back another more advanced terminator and prompting Sarah to destroy skynet before it was "born", things might have turned out the same as the second time through after the first movie. So things changed again. Even though I think the third movie was crap, I think it had a really good explanation of what was going on. Each intervention in the time line creates a new timeline and future history. Before the third intervention, in the third movie, I think that skynet was created differently again, and that the only evidence of the other timelines were the interventions that the previous "skynets" had made. This prompted the third skynet to cause changes that would ensure skynet would be "born". To do so it sent the TX to infect and propagate a new version of skynet over the internet and world wide networks. The thing is this caused yet another timeline. I am hoping after what I saw in the teaser trailer yesterday that the next 3 movies are going to be excellent movies. They got Christian Bale, check one for good choices. They have made what I think is an excellent teaser trailer, check one for awesome creativity. After T3 I was wishing that they hadn’t bothered, but that teaser looks really cool. I think it is a T-800 serial 101 just like the first poster suggested. I have got my hopes up for this movie.
almostunbiased 7/17/2008 6:49:31 PM
So it's supposed to be the same model? Must be important for the story, since they had more than one appearance for the same robot.
videocide 7/17/2008 7:00:21 PM
I always figured an alternate version of the future from T-3 would revolve around the arm the second T-800 left behind. I think its safe to say the sytem model # is the look of the human casing over the endo-skeleton. I never assumed all terminators looked the same as Arnold would kind of defeat their purpose.
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