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VTGamehendge 2/3/2014 8:33:41 PM

And a little background on myself:  I've undergone two surgeries for severe ulcerative cilitis (look it up) to remove my entire large intestine and do reconstruction, three fistulotomies (look it up), chronic kidney stones, a bulging L4-L5 disc, and SI joint dysfunction (again, look that one up).  I'm not begging for sympathy or feeling sorry for myself, but I just wanted to point out that sometimes addiction isn't necessarily a choice.  At least not completely.  Like I said, mine was a combination of taking a lot of pain meds for legitimate medical reasons and then also partying with friends.  Though I never even knew how great those drugs could make me feel before I was prescribed them.  When I hear an addiction story I always seek answers to the pertinent questions.  How did it start?  Like I said, not always black and white.  Seems like Hoffman was probably just a recovering junkie who fell off the wagon, but it's not always that simple.

VTGamehendge 2/3/2014 8:34:24 PM

Sorry, that was supposed to be COLITIS.

karas1 2/4/2014 5:40:05 AM

Don't you miss the edit button?

Hoffman deserves compassion.  What he did was stupid and self destructive.  But he didn't go into a mall and shoot strangers or something like that.  Some of the people here seem kind of judgemental.  It's a tragedy, not just deserts.

Wiseguy 2/4/2014 9:31:05 AM

I don't want to seem kind of judgmental on this specific situation, take the seem out because I am being judgmental. He was a grown man with more going for himself than probably 90% of the world. Everything he did was with eyes wide open. I read that he even checked into rehab last year for heroin. I view this as a complete failure on his part.

Hey I'm not dancing on his grave or saying he deserves it, it's just that I'm as ambivalent about his death as I am for the bum that overdosed beneath that overpass, you know the one, the one no one cares about or if you ran into in the street you wouldn't give him the time of day and would try to avoid, the one with real problems and little hope

VTGamehendge 2/4/2014 10:32:22 AM

I got ya.  And I wasn't trying to call you out or anything or tell you you're wrong.  I was just trying to point out that not everyone's addiction starts out like that.  Sometimes it's the result of situations that really are out of your control, such as health/medical issues.  And I'm not gonna lie and try and sugar coat it.  While my addiction had its roots in my medical problems, it grew into the monster that it became because I liked getting high.  I wasn't trying to cover anything up in my life or "numb the pain" or fix my depression (in fact, the drugs led to depression and anxiety problems).  I actually had a job, working 40-60 hrs/week as the head bartender at a country club making $55k a year.  I liked the way the drugs made me feel and I thought that I could stop whenever I wanted, but then I woke up one day and all of a sudden I had been getting high for four years.  Now mine never got nearly as bad as Hoffman's or other people I've known, but it was still a struggle to get straight.  And like I said, I've slipped up a few times, but it's pretty much always been a one time or two time deal and then it clicked in my brain that I didn't wanna start digging that hole again.  So that's where any inkling of sympathy I may have once had for PSH ends.

lazarus 2/4/2014 1:40:45 PM

I am not trying to sound like a dick with my opinion. It is sad he died. Addiction is a really serious demon to deal with but IMHO is it like having an allergy. You would no sooner get up and eat something you are allergic to? Would you.

It is called choice. You get up everyday and make a choice. Do I pick up the needle, bottle, straw, pill, whatever? It is a choice. You choose to make that choice and live with the decision. I decided because both my parents are addicts to never start down that road. I saw where it ends and I don't want that on my soul.

No I am not perfect nor am I an angel. My only message is what I tell everyone. It is all starts with a choice. One day, one choice at a time. When your feet hit the ground you make that same choice everyday. You just have to value your committment to that choice more than the feelings you would get from violating it.

Some people can do these things in moderation. I think the real wisdom is knowing which person you are. If you can't then don't start. It is real simple. JUST. NEVER. START.

wormlander 2/4/2014 1:51:23 PM

One of my favorite actors of all time. Boogie Nights is an absolute masterpiece. He'll surely be missed. I see lots of sore feelings and harsh comments here. Be careful throwing those stones around folks. You or someone close to you may be next.

keithdaniel 2/9/2014 2:29:34 PM

Sorry I came to this thread so late.  Anyway, I respect the right of those of you here to express no sympathy to Philip Seymour Hoffman and understand where many of you are coming from with that mentality.  He made a very selfish and foolish decision to abuse drugs yet again, and given his history with it should've known better.  One can only imagine what his family and friends are going through and my condolences go out to them.  It's easy to see that PSH had a lot going for him.  He was still relatively young, has a family, was a very talented and successful actor, was financially well off, and has fame and respect as an artist in his craft.   

However,  I think he should still get sympathy regardless of whether or not anyone thinks he deserves it!  He was still a human being and obviously still needed help to overcome what is a lifetime battle for those who fall into the trappings of drug abuse.  I strongly agree with Kara, that many of you here are being too judgmental, especially given that most here including myself have never had that sort of addiction and therefore don't know what it's like to try to overcome something like that!!  We also don't know what it's like to be in the shoes of PSH and I doubt that his life was just about fame and fortune.  He may have had issues that we've never and may never hear about.  When people choose to abuse things like drugs, including those who relapse, it's not always about them just lacking self-control, being selfish and not thinking about their families and friends.  It's more to it than that.  They often delude themselves into believing that they can "control" the drug that they're abusing when in reality that drug is controlling them and yes drugs do change the brain chemistry and therefore changes how they think and in a way changes who they are.

Yes, PSH made his own decision and deserves criticism for his relapse but not condemnation...and I believe anyone who has been, is and who will be in the future would want compassion!!  Something I know I'd want and bet those of you, including those who are harsh critics would want for yourselves or for your family if it happened to any of them!!  It's very easy to judge when you're sitting on the other side of the fence isn't it?  The grass isn't always as green as it looks on the other side.  Among many other things, life has taught me that things aren't always black and white!          

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