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Wiseguy 8/12/2012 9:13:55 AM

Well I never had to face action. I was called in for Desert Storm but that was over so fast that I never had to leave.

My experiences with speeches have been to keep us fully alert, to take the training as seriously as human possible, while on "air alert", the possibility of actual action and stuff like that. And of course one where all service members can relate when doing anything that involves the team, the speeches and encouragement from your fellow Marines to keep everyone going be it a platoon run or hump or whatever.

And as Marines most know we don't lack on sense of pride so we hear the name Chesty Puller quite a lot.

Anyway speaking from my limited experience I think speeches work and although I do recall a couple of them that were all over the place mostly they went over well and really motivated and encouraged everyone. The ones that didn't take to it would usually get infected by others' enthusiasm.

When facing or having the possibility of facing yours or your comrades death proper motivation goes a long way. Even some levity helps a lot.

We're all different but for me anything dealing with patriotism and keeping the man next to you alive always reached me.

Mythos 8/12/2012 10:37:09 AM

"We're all different but for me anything dealing with patriotism and keeping the man next to you alive always reached me."

Couldn't have said it better myself wise!

jedibanner 8/12/2012 11:35:58 AM

I think music works for many, many different walk of life to ''pump'' people up (sports, politics, personal achievement, military). Also in real life, I'm sure speeches have their own merit at some levels for everyone who take whatever they feel it touches them when they hear someone rally them.

In movies...a bit different then real life. I remember the ''speech'' of ID and felt it was so cheezy and fake...but when you think of Braveheart and Mel speaking for the first time to his army ready to do battle yet they never met him 2 minutes ago and are now willing to die for him...that for me is a good non-cheezy ''rally-the-troops'' speech.

So, to each it's a perfect world we wouldn't need marines or armies or speeches to defend ourselves against a common day maybe (but I doubt it).

Mythos 8/12/2012 12:57:20 PM

i doubt it too jedi but what we will need are our rallying cry like...... "WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!" sorry had to toss that in there! lol RANGERS LEAD THE WAY! cmon wise lets here your rallying cry! SEMPER FI DO OR DIE!!!! as my Dad would always say.

samson 8/12/2012 3:24:45 PM

Loved the original. Cautiously looking forward to the remake.

As far as not believing simple folk can hold off an advanced millitary, remember what happenned to Russia when they went into Afghanastan? Russia marched in and after a time, had to march right back out in dissapointment. And this was back when they were a real super power.

lazarus 8/12/2012 3:43:04 PM

Okay whoever said the first was not believable was an effing moron. The first one was COMPLETELY believable and that is what made it great. The Russians, Cubas and I believe the Chinese all attack the US in different angles. Russia supplies troops, Cuba nuked prime targets and Chinese hindered supplies.

It was completely believable for the time. AND THAT WAS WHAT SCARED EVERYONE. It could happen.

Today's world? No, I am sorry, not with global economics and all the various political stuff globally going on? Lets put this another way, the US is primarly in debt to the Chinese. The North Koreans are mainly BACKED by the Chinese. Why would the Chinese allow them to attack their main investment? Does that really make sense? I could Iraq, the Taliban, the Al-Quida, hell I could see Syria backing these organizations up, but the N. Koreans. No sorry, politically it makes no sense. Besides, why would they not attack S Korea first and take it back. ALright that is all.

Wiseguy 8/12/2012 3:46:33 PM


Yeah samson and a little help from the CIA also went a long way in helping the afghans.

Wiseguy 8/12/2012 4:43:59 PM

The first one as has been mentioned played a lot on the Cold War fears so even if the story itself is unbelievable there was a sense of plausibility.

This second one has a similar theme in that it can, don't know if it does, play on fears about China.

I think there's a rational line of thinking that allowas for China to use North Korea to bring the US down or to weaken it behind close doors of course. The upside to a weaker US trumps the economic investment China has in us. As long as they can hide their involvement they can still claim our debt and a weaker US military would only boosts China's already aggressive stance in many outstanding claims around the China Sea. Believe me there's a lot at stake in that area with China and all its neighbors where US interference may be the only thing preventing a war right now or in the near future

Kaziklu 8/12/2012 6:30:39 PM

 The first one had a semi legitmate premise, this one is insane... 

if it were North Korea that attacked... why would they attack the US first and not South Korea? 

The entire premise of this is beyond stupid at least with the Chinese the capability is somewhat believable. 

And they have made significant changes to the characters and removed the "common man" element by adding a young adult Marine. 

I loved the orginal as a kid. I want to find the exec the approved this and give them a bright orange helmet.

MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 8/12/2012 6:34:38 PM

I wasn't talking about the plausibilty of China attacking versus the N. Koreans I'm talking about us winning. And on that note the enviroment paid a HUGE contributing factor into why the Russians lost as well. Sorry - that's a fact.

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