Well I can't say I'm a huge fan of the Saw franchise, I do own 1-3 on DVD. Did not pay full price, however. I always managed to find them dirt cheap. Saw movies are good for one thing: throwing in the DVD player for guests of the female persuasion who have not seen them before, in hopes that every breaking limb, torn flesh, and wrenching scream will lead them to cower against you in disgust. You'll be the hero when you say "yeah, come here baby, this is disgusting", giving you a free pass to get your arm around her all the while keeping one bulging eyeball fixed on the TV. lol Saw IV will not join the others in the my collection because IT IS A CONVOLUTED PIECE OF CRAP. Simple as that.

I would say it was a solid B. At least the series has moved forward and is still worth watching. I liked the idea of everybody needing to save themselves. Using Saw movies to get laid, never thought of that. Probably, becuase it is the STUPIDEST thing I have heard.

ugh. somebody needs to lighten up. it was a joke. not real sure why you thought you needed to turn it into a personal attack though. what a douchebag

"But I have to wonder if they are just hastily building a story around the traps instead of the other way around." Well, pushing aside any sarcassm, yes, I think it's safe to say they are.

Ugh. Backstory? It's devolved into this? Rob Zombie couldn't have devised a less compelling backstory.