Second PRINCE CASPIAN Trailer Hits Net

If it is grittier and darker with out a lame fight scene between a tween and a witch and all the christian bullshit is gone then I am all for it but if it resembles that of the first, well then I'll wait for it to come out on cable...I will have to wait for word of mouth before I even think of dishing out $10 to watch this...

Christian bullshit? Dude, the whole story is a Christian allegory. It would be difficult to do the books justice by completely eliminating that element. It would actually do them an injustice. And most times people on this site get upset when things are changed from the original source material. So just because it is religious in nature means it should be gotten rid of? I mean, even the Matrix and the Terminator have Christian allegories weaved into them and I'm pretty sure no one here would complain about those films since they kick ass.

Anyways, that is beside the point. The director even admitted to downplaying it a lot in the first film which he definitely did compared to the book. Did the little bit that was there really bother you that much? If it eases your mind Caspian doesn't really have a lot of allegory except for the fact that Aslan is still God. Maybe there is more but I don't really remember. I'll have to read it again before I see it.

Also, this book is about the 4 kids helping Caspian fight to get his kingdom back ... so I'm pretty darn sure we're going to see some tween fighting. It sounds like these films aren't up your alley bro. I for one enjoyed the first immensely and think this one looks even more fun to watch.

ddiaz, you are completely correct. I guess here the popular thing is to embrace anything anti-Christain and dismiss anything pro-Christian. Everyone here was upset when Golden Compass tamed down its anti-Christian theme but object when pro-Christian sentiments are not changed or better yet completely omitted. I mean it wasn't like they were hitting people over the head with any pro-Christianity message. I enjoyed the first and I'm looking forward to this one as well. I actually enjoyed it more the second time around because I finally stopped trying to compare it to LOTR.

Personally, I think its ridiculous to push an agenda on a movie, pro or anti. What is annoying is that when certain Christian groups deem something "anti-Christian" then they immediately call for people to boycott it and then they protest the movie theaters and dog the people who are going to watch the movie. You don`t see atheists calling for boycotts for movies that promote Christianity. I`m not trying to get into a debate but I`m merely stating what the situation tends to be with movies like this and you pointed to the Golden Compass which a bunch of Christian groups called upon people to boycott because they deem it anti-Christian. How about letting people go see a movie, read a book, or whatever and make up their own mind? As you can see I`m not big on organized religions. That being said, I liked the 1st movie. I didn`t know that it was a "pro-Christian" movie until after I saw it although I had noticed the allegory, but as you stated, those themes are all over film. The Matrix and even Star Wars. I have no problem with the stuff because they aren`t going to change my mind either way about religion.

Oh, and the trailer looks pretty cool.

Had to jump in on this one... I'm in full agreement with ddiaz and wiseguy. The books were most certainly allegories for the Christian faith and to remove that would remove the vision CS Lewis had for his stories. Regardless of where one stands concerning Christianity, the books remain amazing stories of fantasy and adventure which just happen to share one man's beliefs.

From what I remember, out of the seven books in the series only the first one (The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe) and final one (The Last Battle) are especially allegorical, with the middle five more or less just being adventures. But even then these are allegories, not moralising Christian propaganda. Meaning they are veiled retellings of certain aspects of the Christ story rather than an attempt to get anyone into church. The final movie, should they get that far, will make the parallel more obvious I suppose, but we'll all be much older by then and the kids who enjoyed TLTW&TW may even be parents of their own. .....As for the first movie, I enjoyed it. I loved the books as a kid and enjoyed finally seeing a big screen version. I knew about the subtext in the books and didn't care, so I felt the same way about the movie. Disney pushed that aspect of it because if they could get church groups on side they could sell more tickets and DVDs. Marketing, pure and simple. .....The trailer for Prince Caspian looks good, and I'm up for more. I'll be particularly looking forward to the third movie though, as The Voyage Of The Dawn Treader has plenty of opportunity for some fantastic visuals and storytelling. And that, at the end of the day, is what we all seem to love anyway isn't it? Just my 2c.

OH YEAH!!!! well I think your all right!
I think that churches that protest movies do more to harm "christianity" than to help it. I am a christian, but I do NOT believe in any form of organized religion. They are all too bureaucratic. I'm definitley against these groups trying to control peopl ethrough fear. That said, I really liked the first Narnia movie (never read the books), and I'm looking forward to this one. But I never saw the christian allegory until someone here at Mania pointed it out to me. I think thats perfect, If it's there but you don't really notice it. Kinda like the "god" bender meets in Futurama. It has one of my favorite quotes pertaining to god and religion .................................. "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."

people whine about christian allegory. Suck it up. It not like anyone twisted your arm and forced you to watch the movie. The allegory is sufficiently cloaked in the story that you could just ignore it. No one is forcing you to agree with the allegory if you understand it. No one is forcing you to convert and go to church.

Complaining about protests against the Golden Compass: So people can bitch and whine about christian allegory, but Christians can't complain about direct attacks?

Rather hypocritical.

Anyhow, these are good stories and movies even aside from the Christian allegory.

Well, I agree with everyone here except mlaforcer. I liked the first movie. Infact I enjoyed it more the second and third time I saw it. Oh and everytime I hear the word "allegorical" I always think of A Knight's Tale, when Paul's character says, "Well it was a bit allegorical," and the other dude says, "Well that's for every man to decide for himself." That cracks me up every time.
Why do some people that aren't christians get so upset about christian based movies? If they think the religion to be all fiction, then why would they care if it's themes are placed in a fantasy movie? It blows my mind.

TayDor, I think the issue is that Christian/Jewish/Muslim fundamentalist organize attacks against movies they see as a threat to the control they have on people, But atheist and agnostics (generally) don't protest against movies that promote Christianity/Islam/Judaism. At least thats my beef with the protesters