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SelectiveRealism 2/7/2010 10:03:54 PM

Im not even a DC cat but I was geeking out the entire episode.  "Superfriends" and "Trouble Alerts" both had me laughing out loud. 

The best part of this episode was the potential foundation it laid down.  The mention of bringing together the remaining members of JSA and their proteges, the mention that a ton of supercriminals were let out of prison, Apokolips, and the whole Suicide Squad part was great.   Using a B-lister like Icicle wound up making perfect sense.  Waller knew he couldn't take out the entire JSA and Clark & Co.   She used Icicle to bring them back out and together with the deaths of Star-Spangled Kid and Sandman being acceptable losses. 

I disagree with the notion that Pam Grier didn't make a good Waller.  I thought she was great.  When she said "Welcome to the Suicide Squad" and blew Icicle away with a wry smile on her face it was a "Woo!!!" moment for me. 

samson 2/7/2010 11:18:39 PM

CCH Pounder would have been the best choice for Waller. The lady has the depth to pull that character off.

Samson

swisshammer 2/8/2010 12:56:15 AM

As this is all we're going to get from DC for a while, I'm ok with it. The show was good, but I feel it could've been better. I was looking forward to seeing Sandman a little more. That was a bummer.

However, Dr. Fate was the SHYTE!!!!!

monelonmonday 2/8/2010 9:26:01 AM

 not a bad episode,afterall it is smallville & i think they are afraid to make it all it can be

liked hawkman but he reminded me of that bird guy in the flash gordon serials

i would like to see them introduce monel would be really easy & could be wrapped up in an episode 

or have they changed his origin from the '60's as well have a great day guys

redhairs99 2/8/2010 2:54:02 PM

moz72, Mchael Shanks' version of Hawkman has been out of the crime fighting game for some 10 years at this point.  I doubt he'd be in tip-top shape given the lay-off, so I thought he looks just right.  And I know Dr. Fate getting taken down like that seemed cheap, but as he has said "My own fate is hidden from me."  Therefore, he had no clue how he was going to die and thus we got his death seemingly out of the blue.

SgtTechCom, I agree the episode was very cool and loved all the little "in-jokes" and one liners.  And I did mention the e-mails between Ollie and Canary in an earlier post.  Definitely looking forward to more from Checkmate. Also, Blue is certainly channeling the great Terrance Stamp in his performance as Zod.

Gauleyboy, I think it was talked about in last week's review cmments, but GA's sunglasses have some built-in tech features like night-vision and targeting, etc.  We saw them when he was introduced a couple years back on the show, so I guess they figure everyone still watching remember's that.  And his scrambled/distorted voice is something that been around since he started the role.  Just anther part of the disguise.  And I'll raise you one on your Heroes comment...This episode was better than the last three seasons of Heroes put together!

Did anyone else notice the JLA logo at the beginning of the scene where MM, GA, and Chloe go to dinner?  I think it's on the back of a laptop or something.  It's written in blue going from the top of the screen to the bottom.  It's right after Clark says his group is "A work in progress" to Stargirl and Hawkman.

redhairs99 2/8/2010 4:18:40 PM

Joe, I know you had some techincal problems with your first posting on this review, but I'm a bit disappointed in not hearing from you in this discussion.

gauleyboy420 2/8/2010 5:36:17 PM

Thanks redhairs, and your right, this ep was better than the last 3 seasons of Heroes...

I also agree I'm awaiting Joe's Comment's, perhaps he partied Heartily yesterday and is recovering

JoeArtistWriter 2/8/2010 8:04:04 PM

Hey guys, nice to know my running commentary was missed. By at least some of you, and gauleyboy was partially right, I did have a bit of post Super Bowl rum-soaked lethargy today, but I was also working on a new animated short. (I’ll make sure I post the link at the bottom of my next Smallville if it’s done by then.)

Anyway, I can’t say I’m surprised that some of you felt it deserved a higher grade… I think some of you are grading on a much more generous Smallville curve than I am and you don’t even know it. ;)

Again, I was put off by Shanks’ Batmanny growl. Carter Hall already had enough threat to his voice… the Batmanning it up was ridiculous, and unnecessary.

I know I mentioned it in the article, but the more I think about it, and the more I read with those who agree with me, the more convinced I am that Icicle II was a lame choice. They either need to go with a more menacing JSA threat, Solomon Grundy springs immediately to mind. He’s powerful enough to kill Sandman and Pemberton on his own, and I would have accepted Dr. Fates death a little easier if Grundy ran him through with something while he was distracted. Icicle II doing in Fate was completely unbelievable for me, and I’m well aware we’re talking about fiction here.

Grundy is also the type of villain who could be controlled by a woman like Amanda Waller. They couldn’t have let Waller kill him like they did to Icey, but they could have come up with something worse than death to show Grundy who now owns him – which could have lead to an episode down the road where Clark beats Waller by turning Grundy against her team.

I’m also still aggravated at Lois Lane even being in the episode. There was NO reason to write her in 0 unless it was some contractual thing, and I still don’t accept that as a reason. Without her stealing 7 minutes we could have really been treated to some extra action scenes. (Which of course would have been completely tits if Grundy was the combatant.)

And I’m not exactly sure on how Fate’s helmet works, but I was under the understanding that Nabu picks the wearer. From a writing standpoint Icicle has to kill Fate to get the helmet to become powerful enough to defeat (or at least give a solid effort) the good guys. We could have done all that with a stronger villain. A villain who could have killed Sandman without pause, and in the end Waller could have still laid the same speech on Grundy about knowing he wasn’t enough to defeat them all. (Although one on one he could easily kill GA or even Hawkman, but no chance against J’on or Clark)

So I didn’t like Icicle getting Fate’s powers, and also found it too contrived that Fate sacrifices himself for J’on. I like the idea, but not against that stupid Icicle.

BTW, I’m glad I gave up on Heroes at episode 3 Season 1. I understand it improved for a while, but got way worse and now sucks. Sounds like many of you would confirm that bit of hearsay.

 

samson 2/9/2010 1:39:12 AM

@Joe

I got the impression that Fate was tired. He had lost his family, life,  etc... . i thought that he let it himself get killed. The way the character was written lends itself to that interprestation.

Samson

xpaladinx45 2/9/2010 6:33:46 AM

I enjoyed it, but to me it was no "movie" it was just a 2 hour smallville ep. packed with a few extra heroes

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