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fft5305 11/2/2009 2:29:48 PM

I don't think this episode particularly sucked.  I did like the interplay between Lois & Clark, cluminating in The Kiss.  That was probably the highlight of the show for me.  I do agree with you, though, about having Ollie have a reason for being at the fight club.  Have some sort of connection for picking this one person out of the crowd.  Especially with it being a female.

My biggest beef with the show on an ongoing basis is how much of a wuss Ollie seems to be.  He's the Green Frickin' Arrow!  He should be opening a can of whoop-ass on just about anyone he comes up against.  The way they've set him up, he's just short of Batman when it comes to non-super-powered, hand-to-hand combat.  Yet he consistently gets beat up and knocked out.  How did he survive so long on the streets of Metropolis and elsewhere as Green Arrow, if it's so easy to get the drop on him and beat him up?

TheDurkinKnight 11/2/2009 2:36:45 PM

JoArist...Dude...you're right (not about condescending, I'm actually taking French II and try to throw that stuff in whenever I can to get used to it) but about my comment more or less being unfair. I'm sorry, I don't wanna be "that guy" and certainly didn't wanna make that my first impression on here. That said, I get frustrated because I always think the show isn't given a fair shot by people. Plus I did think it was ironic that I wrote this article

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/franchisefix/news/?a=11518

just before I read yours and felt like I had to immediately fight the cause. I've never read a review of yours before, let alone one about Smallville. So anyway mi amigo hope we're cool and that this can commence a series of kick-ass debates!

JoeArtistWriter 11/2/2009 2:37:16 PM

fft5305, the Fight Club scene is exactly what's wrong with this show. Give us even a semi-logical reason for Ollie being there in the first place, and secondly for trusting and choosing Mia. Am I to believe Mia was the only soul worth saving in that place?  It's sloppy, lazy, writing and it makes trying to enjoy anything else too much of a chore at times.

How did Ollie get out of the trunk? I don't know, and maybe they don't need to spell that out, but when they leave so much important stuff out, letting Ollie escape from the trunk only to be rescued by The Blur means nothing from a plot line point of view, or a character development point of view.

I'm serious, they should really start hiring teenagers to write this show, because the 11 year olds are just mailing it in.

JoeArtistWriter 11/2/2009 2:39:34 PM

TheDurkinKnight, we're cool... I'll check out your article when I get a chance. Welcome to Mania.

TKay42one 11/2/2009 3:52:19 PM

I hope I'm not being grouped into the haters...hell, I defeneded the show for 8 seasons...I just honestly don't care anymore.  If you read my first post, I only had comments about what the reviewer wrote, not the show or episode itself.  But really, every time the show acts like it's balls are about to drop, we get another hour long Stride commercial...seriously, after trying to defend it for 8 seasons, I feel I've earned the right to hate a little bit, despite having quit watching the 9th season.

JoeArtistWriter 11/2/2009 4:13:01 PM

TKay, hate away. This show invites it. Now and then they suck you in, only to cheap shot you with lazy writing like this. They deserve to get punched back for putting out product like this.

For the record, I will go in to next week with an open mind, but I promise I'm not holding anything back if I get bombarded with stupidity again. I'm now invested, and it seems like I got in too late and I'm losing my ass.

And hey, Smallville bigwigs. Hire me to write an episode. I promise not to write meaningful dialogue, script any believable situations and I swear I'll lead viewers into blind alleys that lead nowhere. I have a six year old nephew who can help me with the harder things like introducing characters for no reason at all, plus this kid loves fart jokes, and he swears farts are always funny - so there's the comedic angle. Clark could give Lois a Super Dutch Oven or something. I'd imagine Lois could get some powers after that chemical exchange. Now my 6 year old nephew and I just brought in a new character for the Superman mythos. "Gaseous Girl."

Ok various 12 year old execs at CW, I've done my job, now give my notes to a thousand different monkeys at a thousand different typewriters and pick out the worst one. Oh, and send me my check.

 

PAGE 11/2/2009 4:13:47 PM

tkay42one, you are a fan in my book since youve watched the show for 8 seasons. i just mean others whove never watched it and has only bashed it when it suited them. but i have to admit, there hasnt been an epsiode worst since that stride commercial that aired featuring drug pushing pete. i take that back. there hasnt been an worst epsiode than that stride commerical that aired featuring drug pushing pete since doomsday aired. not even this episode was that bad. 

ponyboy76 11/2/2009 4:52:13 PM

Yeah, like I said, I have no problem with the people that actually watch the show or have just left but its the ones that come on here and just bash away. They talk all this crap about it but are like"man I stopped watching it like 5 seasons ago" Wow, you are cool. You stopped watching it 5 seasons ago but still feel the need to talk about it. It just reminds me of Al Bundy talking about how he great he was playing ball in high school.
Anyway, I agree with Joe about the writing and not for nothing TheDurkinKnight, the fact that they don't have much of a budget is no excuse for the writing. Supernatural is one of the most consistently awesome shows and their budget is way lower than Smallville's. They just have way better writers. What makes it worse for Smallville is that they have so much source material that they can use to make the writing better and yet they come up with some really poor stuff.
I will conitue watchiing because like you said, DC can't put together a consistently decent franchise unless its named Batman.

TheDurkinKnight 11/2/2009 6:09:49 PM

Joartistwriter...thanks man, look forward to your input

JoeArtistWriter 11/2/2009 8:49:58 PM

PAGE, yes, TheDurkinKnight is a fan. I read his artcile. he's the real deal.

ponyboy, agreed, lots of great shows have been written on shoestring budgets. There's no doubt in my mind Smallville could hire nothing but talented low-paid (guild minimum) writers so the problem with this show goes deeper than the writers. It's who the hell is running this ship (who, ipso facto, is in charge of hiring these writers.)

TheDurkinKnight, I checked out your article. You are obviously a fan. I agree with many of your sentiments, but by and large, I just feel the writing (again, it's all I harp on, but it's a giant component) is tooo inconsistent.

I get this show was meant to attract established Superman fans (not you) as well as non Superman fans who may be intrigued by a re-imagining of the Clark Kent history (you) 

You're probably right when you guess the show was never expected to last this long, but it did, and the creative powers that be never correctly adjusted.

I admire your passion, and always hope the best for thiis show, but I don't share your optimism.

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