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SarcasticCaveman 11/28/2012 5:52:25 PM

 Or not being affected by the Borg time travel because they were "caught in the temporal wake"?...M'kay, I'm game.

lazarus 11/28/2012 5:55:15 PM

Or even better, how a group of religious fanatics who are essential galatic retards with rock guns could take over a vessel of trained military personnel. Yeah that is not a plot hole at all.

What is that saying, suspend disbelief. It is a movie, there is going to be some stretching of the truth.

Who knows. I never watch a Star Trek, or any other movie, looking to poke holes in it. If you do then you lose the ability to enjoy the escape. I get the  attitude about Trek, I do. I am protective of it myself. But it is not so bad that is completely f*cked. I am more pissed by them taking things from my childhood and remaking them into complete jokes. (21 Jump Street, Dark Shadows) to name some recent examples.

karas1 11/28/2012 8:28:47 PM

Wish, what do you mean "It's just science fiction"?  Do you mean that science fiction movies have a lower standard than other types of movies?

I have something that I call The Law and Order Test.  If it isn't believable on a contemporary series like Law and Order then it shouldn't be believable in a scifi or fantasy series/movie.  Would you believe it if on an episode of NCIS a Naval Academy cadet was made captain of an aircraft carrier?  Even if he had done something particurlarly brave and clever to save the day?

If you wouldn't, why should it be believable on Star Trek?

Just because something is science fiction doesn't mean it doesn't have to make sense.  On the contrary, it should be more rigorous to maintain suspension of disbelief.

SarcasticCaveman 11/28/2012 8:40:48 PM

 Well, I just read an article about becoming a captain in the United States Army.  The 6th episode down starts with the sentence, "It is rare to become an army captain right off the bat."  Rare.  That does not mean unheard of, and we're talking about James T. Freakin' Kirk here.  It happens in the real world, thus it can happen on Star Trek.

The article is at wiseGEEK, and is titled, "How Do I Become An Army Captain", listed under Education.

*dong dong* (the Law & Order sound)

SarcasticCaveman 11/28/2012 8:41:26 PM

 LOL *6th paragraph down

Jeez, Trek on the brain.

SarcasticCaveman 11/28/2012 8:47:46 PM

 And then there's MIchael Parkinson, called into the military at age 19, being made Britain's youngest ever army captain.

SarcasticCaveman 11/28/2012 8:50:25 PM

 David H. Hackworth went from private to captain via a battlefield commission in Korea, becoming the army's youngest captain.

wish 11/28/2012 9:20:07 PM

haha no that's not what I meant at all Kara, it's just a little reminder that we can calm down a little, no one in particular, just all of us we sometimes get too passionate or offended by opinions, and some people write as if JJ's version of Trek is life-ending awful when it isn't at all, especially when compared to a large percentage of the existing ST anthology.  As has been pointed out, plenty of past missions have been laughable and terrible and all the things that JJ's film has been called, yet when we have a film that is largely considered a blockbuster hit and recieves heaps of praise from both fans and critics alike, we still get lots of die-hards that scream bloody murder.  It's all for fun right?  I don't mean to offend anyone, I'm just defending my opinion of what I consider to be one of the best ST movies ever made!

wish 11/28/2012 9:29:02 PM

And yeah, precedents have long been set for field-promotions during extreme millitary situations, most of those promotions stand after the crisis has ended.  That's usually because if you progress that far in one day and still survive, you've earned your keep.  Fair.  Kirk is one of the most extraordinary leaders to ever come from Earth according to most of the ST mythology, he's to ST captains what Connery is to Bond!  His story IS fantasic and crazy and hard to believe!  Thats why out of all the historical documents we get from the future, most feature heavily on him!

trollman 11/28/2012 10:05:05 PM

Abrams Star Trek: Into the Dumbness.  I usually like JJ but he needs to just get away from Trek because he doesn't understand what it truely is about, It isn't flashy special effects or big explosions. JJTrek is like finding a big present under the tree on xmas morn, Shiney paper and pretty ribbons lots of excitement!!! then you open it and the box is empty...

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