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VermithraxPejorative 11/30/2012 7:15:36 PM

Ole WiseOne! I'm glad I finally spoke up about my name change! It was eating at me that those I know on here didn't know it was me, EagleManiac, but in a new and improved form! Vermithrax is one incredible Dragon, agreed! I have always said that there has NEVER been a Dragon on film, or really, even in print, that compares to Vermithrax! The look is SPOT ON to what a Dragon is supposed to look like, and the whole persona is as close to the myth and legends of Dragons as anything has ever been done.

I also agree that Dragonslayer is one sadly over-looked "gem", as you called it, and doesn't get the praise it so rightly deserves. It has always been held in high regard for me and is tops in my book of Fantasy Films, even compared to the Fantasy Masterpieces, The Lord of the Rings.

Speaking of LoTR, the Nazgul's Fell Beasts are pretty close with their look and ferocity, but even they pale in comparison to Vermithrax! Are those Fell Beasts actually Dragons or just evil beasts??

And to think, Dragonslayer was a DISNEY Production! Who'd have ever thought DISNEY could have come up with a Dragon and a Dragon movie that are both the best of their genre???

Dragonheart was good, but not great. The Dragon itself, masterfully voiced my Bond, James Bond himself, had a look that was totally wrong. The head was too large, mostly to allow for the voice acting and to give it more expressions. And the flight and wing structure was also wrong, again, to allow more "character like" actions.

Vermithrax was all business, and ALL DRAGON! And THE definitive Dragon of all-time! Anyone dare to challenge that statement? ;-)

karas1 12/1/2012 3:49:56 AM

I always pictured the Nazgul's Fell Beasts as pterodactyls.  The LoTR's universe had dragons in it like Smaug and the Fell Beasts weren't referred to as dragons.  Therefore I always thought of them as something else.

lazarus 12/1/2012 9:20:12 AM

Umm I know this might be pissing off someone. But just a thought, DRAGONS ARE NOT F*CKING REAL!!!

Saying someone's interpretation of what they should look like is like saying vampires shouldn't sparkle. IMHO they shouldn't but to say someone's concept of what a FICTIONAL creation should be or look like...that is just stupid. It is a fictional creature, why is one way better or worse than another?

And how exactly did we go from discussing the merits of the new Star Trek and how it has really upset some avid fans of the OS/OU to this?

It is a simple thing really, if you don't like the new film...DON'T SEE IT. Do like Darth is doing with Fox and boycott the damn thing. Personally I like both, I can accept both. And yeah there were flaws in the new film, but it was close enough to the original that I can deal with it. Were there holes, yes. But they really really tried to be faithful to the original in some ways. It is not like they made Chekov from Germany or and Sulu from N. Korea.

It is supposed to be entertainment, if you are not entertained, don't watch. Personally I am hoping for a 3 way scene between Spock, Kirk, and Uhura.

Kaziklu 12/1/2012 9:56:15 AM

Dragons are real... they just died out in the flood. there fire breathing just made them look like fossils, to test peoples faith. 


Wiseguy 12/1/2012 11:34:16 AM

Come on laz you're just being silly now. If that's the case no one can argue anything based on fantasy. It's subjective just like most arguments here. And on your second point, that's a lazy argument "don't see it" because you and most of us can apply that ourselves and end any future disagreements. But how would we know if we may like it?

Vermithrax you're spot on. TOP dragon all time. There's been others I liked but the combination of terrific film and terrific dragon are unsurpassed.

We'l see how PJ makes me rethink this once we see Smaug

SarcasticCaveman 12/1/2012 12:37:41 PM

 Actually, the fell beasts in the LOTR movies looked more like Wyverns to me, having only the 2 legs.  They would have been full on Wyverns if they had scorpion tails (at least that was how the Dragonlance books described them).

lazarus 12/2/2012 1:59:27 PM

I know what a drag queen looks like, is that similar to a dragon? Seriously, dragons are not real and there have been LIMITLESS interpretations about them. And they are fictional. Like vampires, werewolves and other fantasy creatures. The only difference in Vampires were actually based on real historical recorded people with a health condition. I am pretty sure there have never been any fire breathing creatures in existence, well except my ex-wife/bitch.

And the point of not seeing the film was that if people are SO upset with the new interpretation of the ST realm then don't go watch it. I hate Twilight, so guess what? I DON'T GO WATCH THE MOVIES. That is close to the definition of masochism I believe. You know what you are getting with the new ST, if you don't like it the best way to voice your displeasure is not to patronage the film and thus lower its revenue. It will then send a message eventually.

Now why are men like a sports car and woman like an SUV?

Because men have a stick shift and women have lots of storage spaces. :)


LadyBrowncoat 12/2/2012 3:29:45 PM

Sweet.  Hope to see the preview! 

karas1 12/2/2012 5:35:33 PM

Lazarus, I have no interest in Teilight, therefore I do not go to see it and I don't care what it it like.

I DO care about Star Trek and when I see it being comprehensively frelled up it makes me angry.  It makes something that I SHOULD be able to enjoy into something that makes me unhappy instead.

I'm sure there is some franchise which you really enjoy and would object if not only was it made stupid but everybody else seemed to like it that way.

lazarus 12/2/2012 11:00:55 PM

Karas, that is called my childhood. Every freaking show I loved as a kid is being raped for the sake of Hollywood and the moron generation. I get your pain, but be glad that it is keeping the title relevant. I can honestly say I think without Abrahams version being developed Star Trek would have faded off and been forgotten. Enterprise, as much as I loved it, killed the franchise. Not because it was a bad show, because of lousy marketing etc, etc. Also the constant formula that they have been using for the latest Trek titles is getting predictable. There is at least one hyper attractive female member of the crew (7of9, T'Poal, Dax. Trio.

I would love to see another Trek series done and this time go another route. A more military, peace keeping theme for fringe territories on the edge of Federation space. Maybe do a show about the SF Corp of Engineers who go around solving issues and doing thing like terraforming planets, working on weather control systems. That might be interesting.  But to be realistic, we have sought out new life and their ain't much left to explore.

Just not sure this generation can find interest in intellectual themed shows again, remember this the same group that spawned a show about beard growing. Sad.

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