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Muenster 12/3/2012 10:06:14 PM

On your marks... Get ready... Suck!

SarcasticCaveman 12/3/2012 11:34:57 PM

 Thanks for that second comment, Muenster...not sure I understood you the first time.

SarcasticCaveman 12/3/2012 11:37:31 PM

 TALIS - I wouldn't mind if it were Khan, but I hope it's not...Khan has been done very well once, and perfectly the second time in Wrath of Khan.  If Abrams has the balls to start his own alternate Star Trek universe that has appealed to and pissed off so many fans and average movie goers, I would hope he has the balls to keep going where Star Trek has never gone before.  Just sayin.

SarcasticCaveman 12/3/2012 11:46:49 PM

 By the way, for everybody else, I stumbled upon a very well made fan film on youtube this evening on youtube.  It's called Star Trek: Phoenix, it takes place in the regular universe, 40 years after the destruction of Romulus.  I'm assuming that in this "original" timeline, Spock was still too late to save Romulus, but didn't get sucked into the black hole and ending up back in time.

I was also watching The Motion Picture tonight.  One of the biggest nitpicks I've heard about Abrams' movie was the black hole sending ships through time instead of utterly destroying them.  Why is this stupid when a black hole was responsible for somehow transporting V'ger to the machine planet?

wrrlykam 12/4/2012 12:59:44 AM

The theories and science of 'black holes' has changed since ST:TMP. The whole 'hole' idea has gone and replaced by super dense stellar remnant. Perhaps Orci and Kurtzman haven't been keeping up-to-date.

My JJ black hole nitpik was how it magically disappeared at the end of the movie and did'nt pull everthing in with it. After all if a tiny drop destroyed Vulcan and whole four foot ball of the stuff should have been  like a supermassive black hole.

SarcasticCaveman 12/4/2012 1:17:41 AM

 Gonna try this again...

I can see that, wrrlykam.  I think this whole nitpick could have been avoided had they called the creations of the red matter something besides black holes.  Seriously, clever writers were able to BS their way through 28 seasons of television and 10 movies by inventing scientific plot devices...where were they on this one?

I personally didn't think of a super powered black hole as you described because I assumed the red matter was fuel for the artificial black holes, and the "black hole" only exists as long as the fuel is there to consume.  In that case, the power of the black holes would have been constant, just the longevity of them would change depending on the amount of fuel consumed.  But even then the one at the end didn't last as long as it should have.

Wiseguy 12/4/2012 5:49:44 AM

I guess we'll just have to wait for Avatar 2 for a really smart sci/fi film ;)

jacobjoseph 12/4/2012 7:39:53 AM

 It's Gary Mitchell. 

redhairs99 12/4/2012 8:06:46 AM

 Hopefully, Wise, Cameron can bring us more creative names like his "unobtainium" in the Avatar sequels.  That Cameron is one smart dude for such imaginative writing!

wish 12/4/2012 8:17:09 AM

They never called them "black holes" as to what the red matter created, they referred to it as a "singularity"  which is a point of infinite density in space, presumably when mass reaches that critical point in space, it punches a hole right through the fabric of space/time, creating a gateway to another universe/time?  Stellar black holes are the super dense remaining matter after the collapse of a star, if the star had enough mass to go critical it could punch a hole and create a singularity.  I think the red matter was an artificial way to create that critical density that is required to rip through space/time and create that pathway to another dimension or whatever.........when the real question should be: why didn't the plasma from the supernova get sucked in with both ships and get transported back in time too?  That's what the red matter was supposed to do anyway right?  Yet both ships emerged fully intact with no trace of the killer energy that destroyed Romulus.

It's all theorectical physics, we really are just guessing as to what is actually happening out there in the universe.

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