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Cacaoatl 5/6/2009 4:37:19 PM

1. Star Trek will never die because it is a contemporary myth. Where our ancestors had the Knights of the Round Table we have the crew of the Starship Enterprise.  Myths are retold in every generation to make them relevant to that generation.  If the original movies made Star Trek relevant to the 1980s then JJ Abrams' film is Star Trek for the 21st century.

2. When Nicholas Meyer was hired to direct Star Trek II, like Abrams he was not a Trek fan. He went on to create what many fans consider the definitive Star Trek film. He was objective and brought fresh ideas to the material instead of some preconceived notion of what Trek is or should be.

3.The person who was perhaps least faithful to Star Trek canon was Gene Roddenberry himself. He once ftatly stated that in a conflict between NextGen and TOS, NextGen is canon not TOS.

4. There are many continuity errors in Star Trek both deliberate and accidental oversites. One of my favorites include Khan stating that he remembered Chekov when the character wasn't added to the series until after Space Seed aired. Starlight Guard is Spock a Vulcan or Vulcanian? Is Rene Auberjonois's character canon? Is Star Trek V canon? Is Robert April the first captain of the Enterprise or isn't he?

5. Starlight Guard, you're anger at JJ Abrams is over-the-top, have you considered therapy?

gauleyboy420 5/6/2009 4:44:10 PM

YEAH !!! YEAH!!!! YEAH!!!

Cacaoatl, HIT EM' WITH THA TRUTH BRUTHA!!!!!

 

Thats right, Preach it!!!!!

 

Knowledge is POWER!!!!

StarlightGuard 5/6/2009 6:02:57 PM

very true Nick Meyer wasn't a fan, but he also understood the literary background upon which Kirk was built

and no I haven't considered therapy....I wouldn't mind consider brainwashing to eliminate Abram's vision from my mind though

your mentioning of Khan meeting Chekov....will that's Meyer's fault cause he did the 12 day rewrite....he should've seen the original, but he didn't...

and is Spock also Vulcanis? that was tossed around as well

and what about the lady from Trek 6, is she a changeling like Odo, or a completely different type?

we can play rhetorical questions and do this dance all night long......people have and will make mistakes, the question is do we make them intentionally, willingly, with absolute no consideration of all that came before, or do we actually make the attempt to get things right?

people will always make mistakes...but Abrams coming in, saying he's not a fan, and not even understanding the basis of it really says "I don't care about this, but let me play with it, make it my own, and screw you if it's not right, I don't care anyways....."

Nick Meyer knew he'd never make a Horatio Hornblower movie, but this was that in space, and he certainly understood that matter....Meyer is an intelligent, well read individual, Abrams just comes across as a guy who's making it for himself, someone who doesn't understand the material

it's like 'Trek For Dummies,' and half the facts are wrong and some of the pages are missing

DaForce1 5/6/2009 7:30:37 PM

I'm still not paying to see it.

I'll pay to see something else this weekend, and then walk into a showing of this. Two fer one weekend.

klaatu1701 5/6/2009 11:04:42 PM

Just seen it.....it was damn wonderful. Gene would have applauded. The cast and crew were excellent and the Enterprise never looked so wonderful, or so fast.

Welcome back Star Trek, we've missed you

 

gauleyboy420 5/7/2009 2:11:45 AM

Don't sweat it daforce,

I'm plannin on payin to see it twice, maybe three times, So I'll pay ur way.

Mhalakai 5/7/2009 5:07:28 AM

Saw it yesterday at a press-screening... WOW! I was blown away! What a fun movie, without leaving anything "Star Trek" behind. I loved the complete break with the past continuity. Now the truly fanatical fans can’t really say a thing! hehehehe

joeybaloney 5/7/2009 5:39:55 AM

I can't wait to see Shia LeBeouf as Han Solo in Rob Zombie's Star Wars reboot.

gt86 5/7/2009 6:58:23 AM

I have loved every Tv series that has came out except for DS9, I even Like Voyager and Enterprise and every movie excpet for Insurrection, Nemeis and the lame death scene for Kirk in Generations. I am more of a trek fan not a trekkie I have watch Star Trek since i was a kid in the 70's when my father use to watch TOS which is th eonly series he liked and watch at all. With that said I have had a bad feeling about this movie ever since the first screenshots of the bridge first came out. Because it was to Star Wars and 90210 looking. I liked to first 3 SW films but the last 3 were pure junk imho. My 14 yr old son hates the first 3 Sw films and will sit there and watch the last 3 over and over on Spike constantly. Which brings me another thing that has me worried about the new ST film my some wants to see it and says it looks awesome for the first trailer and he can't stand any of the series that are on Tv or any of the movies and my 12 yr daughter wants to go see it because it looks like Star Wars.

I don't mind new people playing the characters i grew up with, I actually watch and enjoy very much the internet St series Star Trek New Voyages ( Phase 2 ). As for J.J. Abrams I have never really liked anything he has done. Lost lost me in the first season and Dollhouse is the only series of his I have watched for an entire seasonand I won't miss it if it doesn't get renewed. The 10 things to be worried about the new Trek film article hit all my worries perfectly. I have this huge worry I will have to forget all the 30 yrs of Trek mythology I know to see this film and that really has me wondering if I want to see this film or not. With that said as with every Trek film I will probably go see it Saturday anyway and this will be my first Imax film but I'm sure I will come out not very happy.

hanso 5/7/2009 7:17:39 AM

oh my it's a baloney sighting.  wat u doing wondering around these parts B?

GT86 - Dollhouse isn't JJ Abrams, it's a Joss Whedon show.

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