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mike10 5/17/2010 1:33:56 PM

 How is this Superman crap even legal??? The guys that did the actual work have passed away, WTF???  A judge should just set a price and let DC/WB pay them once and for all.

Isn't Superman in the public domain by now anyway, if not it soon will be. It's funny that the character of Mon-El has been featured in one of the monthly Superman titles, could the WB be preparing for Superman's possible departure?

 

scytheofluna 5/17/2010 2:16:53 PM

Superman is a DC comics character.  PERIOD. Sure, the heirs to the creators should be entitled to some portion of the legacy, but as someone else said, at this point the character is a national icon, and his association with DC comics is tantamount to his association with truth and justice.  If they seriously think they're going to get anywhere with the character without DC comics they're out of their friggin' minds.  Aside from the decades of stories that are NOT owned by Seigel or Schuster, the vast majority of Superman's supporting cast of characters and villains are also NOT the property of the plaintiffs in this case.  Are Lex Luthor, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Lana Lang, Metallo, Braniac, etc. all included as part of this suit?   Are these idiots thinking they can just rebrand, remarket and repackage the character without any of his supporting cast or history?  Do they really think the fans will support a Superman who doesn't hold a seat on the Justice League?  What fan would honestly want to read a Superman book that DOESN'T take place in the larger DC continuity. 

 

The bottom line is that if these greedy little bastards win this suit, and DC loses the rights to the character, you can forget about me or any other true fan of the character sticking with it at that point.

F#CK YOU Seigel/Schuster heirs!  You don't give a sh!t about Superman or his fans, you're just looking for a quick payday.  Superman is a DC comics character but he belongs to the world, not to you or your families. 

Scratch and scramble for royalties if you really don't have any accomplishments of your own to live on, but trying to take the rights away from DC is just criminal.  You're grandparents may have created the character, but he's come a long way, and he's been shaped by a lot of artists and writers since then and your greedy f@cking lawsuit is a slap in the face to everyone who ever cared about the character.

I will boycott any Superman literature published by DC comics.

scytheofluna 5/17/2010 2:20:03 PM

NOT published by DC comics.  Got so pissed off at the thought I couldn't type straight.

wessmith1966 5/17/2010 2:44:34 PM

It won't be kryptonite that fells the Man of Steel it will be mountains of legal documents. If the creators were paid properly when Superman was created that should be the end of it, regarless of how much the property's value increased over time. DC's put a lot of money into increasing Superman's value over the years, so if S&S get the rights then DC should sue them for all of the money they spent on making Superman a global identity. If not for DC/WB Superman could have been one of hundreds of failed super hero creations.

axia777 5/17/2010 3:39:15 PM

What lancedenier said. F*ck the greedy ass families. The original men who created Superman are DEAD. This is just some people trying to ROB DC of it's intellectual property.

IamChuck2026 5/17/2010 5:34:08 PM

Am I the only one who saw a poster for DANCE NINJA starring David Hasselhoff in the CONAN link?!?! 

SarcasticCaveman 5/17/2010 6:06:12 PM

I don't agree with the lawsuit, but I can understand why families do this crap...sure, it's about a quick payday, but why is it about that?  Because before the laws we have now, the actual creators of comic book characters REALLY never got the recognition they deserved.  They would get screwed and their intellectual properties used to help establish companies that are now giants of publishing.  So, sorry your grandpa got screwed, but YOU didn't help create Superman, so back off.  If one of your ancsestors had died at Little Big Horn, would you try suing somebody that you weren't able to be killed by angry natives too?

evilron 5/17/2010 7:21:47 PM

Not only did S&S sell the rights back in the '30's, but weren't they payed an assload of money again in the '70's, so DC could make the movie? Now their families want yet more money for something they didn't create, nor did anything to promote. People are amazing in their greed.

animefanjared 5/17/2010 7:39:50 PM

I'm sorry, Shusters & Siegels, but Superman is a DC property at this point.  You cannot seperate the two.  Even if you win the rights to the character, almost everything else associated with him (rogues gallery, supporting characters, etc.) is going to remain DC property.  Nobody is going to be interested in a Superman who can't team up with Batman and Wonder Woman and isn't fighting beings like Darkseid and Metallo.  And then you aren't going to make any money off of him (and if ANYONE tries to argue that this about anything other than a paycheck, they are a big fat liar).

If they win the rights to the character, they are probably planning to try and license him back to DC for a hefty sum (because I guarantee you the Shusters don't have the resources or even an idea of the cost of printing up a monthly comic).  But they have clearly pissed off DC so much that I don't know if DC will go for it.

And furthermore (and I've said this before), I don't think the Shusters and Siegels actually have any right to the character in the first place.  Yes, their dads (granddads?) created him.  But that doesn't involve them in any way, and I don't see how you can legitimately argue that they deserve to be making money off something their dead relatives did half a century ago.  The most I would buy is that the families feel they are owed royalties that DC failed to pay their fathers up to the point when the two creators died.  They are not entitled to any money made off the character (whose rights DC legally owned) after the deaths of the creators.

Kraken89 5/17/2010 7:59:40 PM

This all really stems from the basic conflict of who is legally responsible for the creation of a ficticous character: the creators or the company that employed the creators. In my opinion, if Schuster and Siegel wanted all rights to the Superman character and subsequent characters, they should of published under the control of their own company.

It's like if Jerry Bruckheimer (creator of CSI) died, then Fox made CSI Chicago and his inheritants wanted total rights to it. I mean, how greedy can you get to sue a company that helped make that creator a legend.  Siegel & Schuster's names will be permanantly attached to Superman (all movies, games, TV and comics involving Superman have: Superman created by Siegel and Schuster).

There is only one legitimant complaint that I have concerning character rights and that's that Bill Finger had as much to do with creating Batman as Bob Kane did. The family of Bill Finger really is the only family that has a right to gripe with DC Comics, that Bill Finger's name be after Kane's name on the created by signature.

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