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ripum853 1/1/2010 7:27:08 PM

I would personally have:

 

1.LOTR

2.Children of Men

3.The Dark Knight

hmmm.....then I don't know as far as genre films go lol.  But films altogether I'd have the same three in that order, then The Lives of Others, and The Hurt Locker 5th.  Pan's Labrynth a close 6th.  I can't honestly rank 7-10, although District 9 is getting better after each viewing.

 

ripum853 1/1/2010 7:36:33 PM

btw, to put in my own two cents to those that criticize ROTK's long ending's'.  Well, Fellowship of the Ring took forty minutes to start, so it's only fitting that ROTK took forty minutes to end.  The prolonged beginning and ending help make it a complete epic story, I feel it's necessary.  Plus, the entire epic (in Special Edition format) is 12 hours long.  You can't go 11 hours and end the entire epic in ten/twenty minutes.   It needs proper endings to close several characters chapters and arcs.

Chris Beveridge 1/1/2010 9:55:04 PM

Karas, here's where you miss part of the picture in regards to what's going to stick in your craw.

You view ST11 as the film that is going to think that this is what Trek is supposed to be. Instead, what you should be is happy that THIS Trek WILL expose people who don't know anything about Trek to explore the original. Case in point; my daughter - at age nine - adored the new Trek film. She didn't know a thing about Trek going into and only went because i invited her along. She completely got into it and Spock quickly became her favorite character. Hell, she dressed up as a vulcan science office for halloween.

So when she walked into my media room this summer and saw me watching Classic Trek on Blu-ray and she saw Spock, and realized that it was not only the same character but the same actor that played the Elder Spock, she sat down and watched. And watched. And watched. She's no absorbed all of the Classic series, fell in love with Tribbles (and owns one - and a friend who has never seen Trek at all has a tribble because she liked my daughters) and she is now watching The Next Generation series and has taken in a couple of those movies.

All BECAUSE she saw this new Trek that, as you say, will make people believe that this is what Trek is supposed to be.

There is no single Trek vision. There hasn't been since the original. There are TNG'ers who hate Classic. Classic fans who hate everything eles. Haters who hate haters. I personally despise Enterprise and I can't believe Voyager lasted a whole season, never mind seven. And there are people who only like one particular show out of all of them. So on and so forth.

But as you said, you rail against ST11 in every article that it shows up which is certainly your perogative. But you miss the big picture. Something Paramount did not miss by making sure that the Classic series and ALL TEN movies made it out in new releases during the same year as ST11. And people became plenty exposed to what you consider "Real Trek".

Not that any two fans will ever agree on what's Real Trek.

Madmardegan 1/1/2010 10:13:19 PM

my list is more like a most viewed list (havent seen avatar yet, or alot of other drama filled bizz) my number 1 is always the same, the others change

1)American Psycho

2)Batman Begins  (not TDK because that movie is not about batman does nothing to further his character)

3)Anchorman

4)Almost Famous

5)Matrix Reloaded (b4 Revolutions jacked it up)

6) The Life Aquatic

7)Gladiator

8)Talledega Nights

9)300/SIn City/ The Spirit (my Miller collection)

10)Inglorious Bastards

 

Honorable mentions==Rules of Attraction, Finding Neverland, Hot Fuzz, Pirates 2, V for Vendetta, Rodger Dodger, Star Trek, LoTR Fellowship, Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind, TDK etc...

 

keithdaniel 1/1/2010 10:24:31 PM

Two big-time honourable mentions I forgot to name although they were named before by others. Sin City at #11 and Children of Men at #12. 

Bryzarro 1/1/2010 11:51:41 PM

jppintar326 It was 3 years after he joined that he became captain.  and it's not reality.  Hence a naval cadet didn't become a captain.  A Fictional character in the span of 3 years became a captian due to his actions in an extra ordinary circumstance.  Again in a FICTIONAL movie.  How you would draw a comparison on anything in reality is completly asinine.  Why would you even watch genere films with that kind of logic.

kwsupes 1/2/2010 4:10:39 AM

Chris I had the same experience with my fourteen year old brother. He has always been into Stargate and was not interested in Star Trek. Now however he can't get enough. The new Star Trek movie is brining in new folks to the fold and will more than likely peak people's interest in all the Star Trek that has gone before. I don't get where some people get off acting like all of the Star Trek that has gone before was perfect. I am thirty years old now and I can assure that not every piece of Star Trek I ever saw was perfect. For every great episode of all of the series there are usually two so so and terrible episode. It's cool though because when it is good it is really good, but it is far from perfect and we all need to cut the people making the new movies some slack because the new film was good and it was faithful to the old series and it saved Star Trek for future generations. Ok I am tired of arguing about this because we all have our opinions and we aren't going to change anyone else's mind so can we just agree to move on?

karas1 1/2/2010 4:42:08 AM

Chris Beveridge,  I'm happy that your daughter has found Star Trek.  I hope that the ideals it embodies about self actualization and the equality of all peoples has as good an effect on her as it had on me.  And I hope she continues on through TNG and DS9.  And, well, after that she can stop.  Voyager bored me (I stopped watching somewhere in season 5 I think) and I never watched Enterprise.  The same people who bored me with Voyager were making it and not even Scott Bacula could tempt me to watch it.

Byzarro, there has to be a comparison between fiction and reality.  Otherwise the fiction is worthless as a mirror on life.  If the actions of the characters are stupid or illogical or not something that anybody would actually do, then how can the emotional growth or lessons learned by the character have any value?

If a government or military institution like Starfleet would put a recient graduate in charge of a starship (not even a graduate, he was on probation for cheating on a test) then how can anything they do ever be taken seriously?  It's like fanfic written by a 13 year old.  The whole movie felt like fanfic written by a 13 year old, the wish fulfillment of children who want to be adults.

No wonder Chris Beveridge's 9 year old daughter liked it.  It was written for her demographic with kids saving the world when the grownups can't.  Me, I don't want to watch a Disney film in Star Trek clothing.  I want real Star Trek for adults.

I hate on this movie, not because I want to put people down or ruin their enjoyment if they liked the film.  I have no axe to grind against Abrams (or I didn't before this film came out).  I just think it was a very substandard and disappointing film and I'm completely amazed that so many people loved it (not liked, loved).  The same people who watched GI Joe and Transformers 2 and said "good FX but a shame about the script" thought ST was the best thing since sliced bread and I think the script was of the same quality as those other films.  I'm puzzled and confused.  My only conclusion is that these people weren't expecting anything better of a ST film in the first place and thus the good points of the film (the high quality of the FX and the acting) fooled them into thinking it was a good movie because it was a better film than they had expected to see.

I can see why many people liked the movie.  But even if it rejuvinates the franchise I still don't think it's one of the 10 best or most signifigant genre films of the decade.  And that's what the original article we were discussing was about.

Kara S

 

ThemanG01 1/2/2010 5:28:20 AM

Does everyone feel better after masturbating ad infinitum over their love/hate of STXI?

karas1 1/2/2010 7:09:14 AM

Yes.

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