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silverspear67 1/2/2010 7:55:10 AM

Karas1, maybe you can look at it from this perspective.  Chesley Sullenberger is being hailed a national hero for saving the lives of 154 people and he rightly deserves the accolades.  But what if America was at war with another surper-power and the lives of every American rested in the hands of one soldier fresh outta boot-camp.  Because of extreme circumstances (wartime situation)  he is promoted to a certain rank, and saves the day; should he be stripped of his rank when the war is over and millions of lives have saved?  Pike promoted Kirk to the rank of 1st Officer and as a result of Spock stepping down, Kirk became captain and practically saved the entire Federation (trillions of lives).  Would it be right to strip Kirk of his rank and throw him back into the academy, despite his being hailed as a hero?  It's an extreme analogy, I know, but maybe you could look at it that way.  Hope it helps.

silverspear67 1/2/2010 8:12:00 AM

Karas1, maybe you can look at it from this perspective.  Chesley Sullenberger is being hailed a national hero for saving the lives of 154 people and he rightly deserves the accolades.  But what if America was at war with another surper-power and the lives of every American rested in the hands of one soldier fresh outta boot-camp.  Because of extreme circumstances (wartime situation)  he is promoted to a certain rank, and saves the day; should he be stripped of his rank when the war is over and millions of lives have saved?  Pike promoted Kirk to the rank of 1st Officer and as a result of Spock stepping down, Kirk became captain and practically saved the entire Federation (trillions of lives).  Would it be right to strip Kirk of his rank and throw him back into the academy, despite his being hailed as a hero?  It's an extreme analogy, I know, but maybe you could look at it that way.  Hope it helps.

karas1 1/2/2010 8:25:29 AM

Yes.  Kirk was temporarily in command of the Enterprise due to extrodinary ciecumstances.  The fact that he heroicaly saved the day doesn't change the fact that he is a very green cadet with no experience.  He should be given a comendation for his bravery and shipped back to the academy until he graduates.  After he graduates he should be an Ensign (or whatever rank new academy graduates have) until he serves enough time and gains enough experience and wisdom to be promoted.  Just like any other academy graduate.

Just because Sullenberger was a hero and saved the lives of his passengers, should he be given command of the Airforce?  Made chairman of the board of whatever airline it was he worked for?  I don't think so.  While he is undoubtedly a great pilot and I would be happy to to be a passenger in his plane, he doesn't have the experience or skills to perform those jobs.

Dazzler 1/2/2010 8:39:37 AM

Ok I do want to make a top ten list for myself.  Does IMDB have a way to filter the decade for a list?  I thought Titanic was past 2000, oh well. 

redhairs99 1/2/2010 10:01:56 AM

Karas, here's the thing with promoting Kirk so early from my point of view anyway, who wants 5 movies of watching Kirk play ensign?   Was it a bit weird that his promotion was fast? Yes, but it was the quickest way to get from A-Z.  They needed him to be captian, so this is how they did it.  Would it have been better if they had slapped a 5 years later graphic over the final scene? Maybe. 

And to anyone who complains about multiple endings in Return of the King, read the f'n books.  The movie ends the way the book does with Sam saying "I'm home."  If you don't like it, complain to Tolkien's rotting corpse.

redhairs99 1/2/2010 10:03:13 AM

Dazzler, Titanic was 1997.

karas1 1/2/2010 10:33:54 AM

redhairs, which is why a movie about Kirk's adventures in the academy was a stupid idea.  If they wanted to go back to the "beginning" they should have started with Kirk's first day as captain of the Enterprise, not with his hijinks as an underclassman.  He could have been introduced to the officers now under his command who were already aboard (such as Spock and McCoy and Scotty) and there could have been some other officers newly asigned to the Enterprise with him (such as Uhura and Sulu and maybe Checkov) and we could have seen them get to know eachother and learn to work together as a team.

Other than that, we could have a movie or two with them all on the Enterprise with Capt Pike in command while we watch Kirk develop the skills and experience he would need to command a starship.

The way they did it is just stupid.

isgrimner 1/2/2010 1:35:53 PM

Kind of skimmed through the comments and was reminded of some movies.

no big problems with the list, but I would have added some and moved some around.

I know it seems a lot of peeps liked Children of Men, but the only thing I can say is that I saw it when it came out on video and I can not really remember anything about it.  So I definately wouldn't put it on my list.  There is one caveat though, I tend to have an irrational dislike of Clive Owen. 

If Memento could be considered genre I would put it on the list for sure.  Guy Pierce, very underated actor in my mind, much better than piece o' wood Clive Owen.

I am not a Star Trek fan so the movie didn't bother me, it was an ok popcorn flick, but not on any of my top lists.

Some movies mentioned by others in their comments that I would consider:

Hellboy films,

Constantine (would win biggest surprise since everybody was sure it was going to suck)

Big Fish

gotta go, can't finish list

 

invisioner 1/2/2010 4:41:26 PM

 I'm sorry, but didn't anyone see Sunshine? That was an incredible piece of Science Fiction. The villian part in the last act kinda hamstrung it I admit, but with the mix of visuals, music and the realistic crew annoyance factor, I thought it was one of the best pieces out there, and truly deserved to be on the list much more so than a lot of the films mentioned. Children of Men is one of the few and LOTR as well also bronzed on the list. And to give Boyle another nod, the incredible scope that 28 days later pulled off also should be acknowledged. Again, the last act hurt it a bit, but I feel both instances are the studio stepping in and pulling from Danny what he originally meant to do.

ultrazilla2000 1/2/2010 5:57:44 PM

How can the Transformers movies be exempt from this list?  Top films as in how?!?  Transformers earned far more than most of these, and the first movie had plenty positive reviews to back it up...this list has fine movies, but the top 10?  That's a lie.

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