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RaithManan 5/16/2013 9:47:34 AM

Weyoun should have made this list.  Jeffery Combs wouldn't quite be a Maniac favorite if it wasn't for that sneaky and often hilarious run with that character on DS9.  I would take General Chang (as much I like Christopher Plummer) and The Xindi off the list to make room for him. 

The other spot and how he was overlooked is beyond me should go to Mark Lenard and his first run as the Romulan Commander in the classic episode "Balance of Terror" of season 1.  He was a good villain, but a very sympathetic one.  That episode is regarded as one of the best ever made and was rather pre-Wrath of Khanish in terms of two captains playing a game of chess with their respective ships with one another.  An episode that highlighted how sharp of a strategic mind that Kirk was.  Spock facing hatred and distrust from fellow officers because of learning Vulcan and Romulans being alike after seeing them visually for the first time after years of conflict.  A Romulan Commander that is duty-bound, yet honorable despite testing a ship's destructive abilities at the cost of innocent lives and simply wanting to go home while constantly being challenged by his second officer seeking glory by any means that ultimately became their cruel fate. 

Unfortunately it was dark episodes like that during much of the first season that NBC told Gene to lighten Star Trek up in the following seasons, aside from moving the damn show around.

My honorary mention goes to the Doomsday Machine.  Its a pain-in-the-ass killing machine of mass destruction.  Personally I like them to try a big screen attempt of it.   

jackwagon 5/16/2013 10:07:32 AM

 Weyoun was a really great character.  One of my favorite moments with him was an episode where he approached Odo about his growing fear that someone within the Dominion wanted to kill him.  Odo shrugged it off and said Weyoun was merely being paranoid.  

Weyoun's response: "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone's trying to kill me!"

mellowdoux 5/16/2013 10:12:58 AM

 Khan is a WIDOWER. Not a WIDOW.

Congrats, Michael.

You just called Khan Noonien Singh a woman. ;)

goirish83 5/16/2013 10:20:04 AM


Higgy 5/16/2013 10:56:59 AM

Chang should definitely be on that list.  Good list altogether.

Raith are you talking about Commander Tamalak?  I liked him too as a bad guy.

And everyone is forgetting about Lore.  Come on...I hated Lore...which made him a great villain.  Brent Spiner was a really good actor, I'm surprised he never got more roles.

Definitely Kruge as well.  Christopher Lloyd was awesome.

Loved me some DS9.

RaithManan 5/16/2013 11:49:50 AM

Nope @Higgy... but he was a good foil for Picard and often a smart ass.  I was referring to The Original Series when the Romulans first appeared.  Mark Lenard was/is still the only actor to play a Vulcan, Romulan and a Klingon Commander during his time with the franchise.

Of course it was in Star Trek: The Motion Picture where he played the ill-fated Klingon captain to get digitized by V'Ger.

BunyonSnipe 5/16/2013 2:48:43 PM

Widower, not widow.

BunyonSnipe 5/16/2013 2:49:50 PM

Oooops, thanks Mellow...


BunyonSnipe 5/16/2013 2:50:37 PM

I must read both pages before posting...


invisioner 5/16/2013 2:53:41 PM

I have to go with GOldeneyz, Krudge, Kor, Kang and Mitchell are fare better than some of those listed here. Krudge not only was a villain to Kirk, killing his son, but the most unforgiving of all the villians, and even intimidated his crew far worse.

And what about Mirror/Mirror Sulu? or Dark Kirk from the transporter?

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