Top Maniacal Rumors of the Week


Top Maniacal Rumors: Spidey Madness & Arrow Enemies

By: Jarrod Sarafin
Date: Friday, May 23, 2008

It’s time for another edition of Mania’s Most Maniacal Rumors, where we blow the lid off the week’s juiciest gossip and hush-hush industry whispers. If you have a rumor you want to contribute, we’re all ears. Just send it to jarrod@mania.com.

 

Spider-Man 4 & 5 Shot Back-to-Back?

Rumor: After a year of silence in which the only thing we’ve heard is that Sam Raimi is stepping aside the director’s chair, opting to only go as producer, a new rumor has popped up that screenwriter James Vanderbilt (Zodiac) has completed a script that will cover the next two movies.

Source: Cinematical

Mania Verdict: MAYBE---While we have no reason to doubt that Vanderbilt has completed a script for the next two films, it seems unlikely that Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst and Raimi will all come to the table anytime soon. We can see the franchise sitting in development hell for the near future unless the roles are recast soon.

Soundwave Appearing in Transformers Sequel?



Rumor: The classic character was axed from the screenplay of the original adaptation last summer for logistical reasons but the latest on the rumor vine suggests that he might be appearing in the 2009 sequel.

Source: Various

Mania Verdict: TRUE---Screenwriter Roberto Orci has confirmed that he will do his best to insert the robot into the sequel.

"We had to get Soundwave in there," Orci said. "You know, we had Ravage in an early draft of the first movie and Soundwave, and we couldn't do it right and I think this time hopefully we'll have the ability to do it."

Robert De Niro Appearing in Matthew Vaughn’s Kick Ass?


Rumor: Even though the Mark Millar comic is still relatively new, it’s already getting prepped for the big screen with director Matthew Vaughn (Stardust) set to lead. The latest rumor is from Millar hinting that a “very famous film star of Italian-American extraction” will also star in it. From previous hints, it’s believed to be Robert De Niro, who also co-starred in Vaughn’s Stardust.

Source: The Herald Magazine

Mania Verdict: TRUE---While the rumor seems wild, this rumor has been going on for a while straight from Mark Millar’s own words at his official website. It fits with De Niro also leading a previous Vaughn-directed film.

Batman & Superman Villains Appearing in Green Arrow’s Supermax?


Rumor: In what can only be described as wild spoilerish speculative territory, El Mayimbe has posted a script review of the upcoming Green Arrow adaptation Supermax, which is getting produced by David Goyer (Dark Knight) and penned by Justin Marks.

Source: Latino Review

Mania Verdict: TRUE---Script reviews can be very misleading because they’re always changing in development phases but David Goyer was involved in the script and development of Batman Begins so we can see him trying to bring over a villain or two from that mythology. The question is, can he pull this off?

Director Jon Favreau Not Coming Back for Iron Man Sequels?


Rumor: Director Jon Favreau has appeared on the Howard Stern show, stating that he was not signed on for more Iron Man films, even if his leading stars (Downey, Howard & Paltrow) have been.

Source: Howard Stern Show

Mania Verdict: FALSE---While it’s true that the director was signed on for the first film only, Mania is sure that he will be back for the sequel. Iron Man has grossed 436.1 mil worldwide, a clear sign that Paramount doesn’t want to “rock the boat” with their potential franchise.


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ponyboy76 • May 23, 2008, 02:15am •
I would really like to see Soundwave in the next Transformers movie, as long as they pull it off well. I hope they don't make him a vehicle which they probably would. I guess they can't really make him an MP3 player but that would be kind of cool.
I`ve heard little about this Supermax movie, since all that JLA stuff was going on. When is this slated to come out?
As far as Spidey goes, I would be really happy if somehow Marvel got the rights back to the franchise, then did the next 3 flicks. If they can't do that, then they should at least get rid of Dunst and Maguire, so they can hire a new team. Maguire was okay as Parker, but Dunst was the worst casting choice ever for MJ. Well, except for casting Bosworth as Lois Lane. That was probably even worse.
Unless Favreau get offered a movie he really can't pass up, I don't see him leaving the Iron Man franchise any time soon. He said that he wanted to do the sequel and then the Avengers movie, which would be awesome.

BlatchSkree • May 23, 2008, 03:00am •
It's definitely time to get new people on the Spiderman franchise. Maguire's emo wuss Parker in 3 made me spew. And they killed Venom. Now they cant do the Carnage storyline which is what i wanted to see. At least he cant bitch and moan about his lost friendship with Harry in the next one.
Soundwave can't turn into an MP3 player. He needs some sort of media to play like the little robots that turned into the cassette tapes. Otherwise, what's he gonna do, plug himself into the nearest iTunes and download some tracks. That would be the shittest thing portrayed on screen ever. Another blatant product placement for Apple. Just what they need. It is the sort of retarded thing Michael Bay just might do though and if i hear that, I'm writing off the sequel.

ponyboy76 • May 23, 2008, 03:44am •
I said, MP3 player, not IPOD, but you are right about it not working. I for one, am glad that they killed Venom or at the very least aren't going with any sort of Carnage story. They shouldn't have even had Venom in the movie. He looked cool, but the origin story was terrible. "Oh yes, I'll just fall out of the sky and look, its some guy and his girl. I'll just attach myself to him and see what happens." Terrible! Putting Cassidy in the movie would be even worse. I really liked Venom in the comic book, but after his first appearance in 298-300, his stories were never that great. He's like Doomsday in Superman. No depth as a character. Now, if they are going to pick a villain for the next 2 Spidey flicks, they should pick, none other than Kraven the Hunter. He was by far one of the best Spidey villains ever, next to the Goblin who they killed off in the first flick. Beyond that any of the rest of the Sinister Six would do. My money is on Kraven though. And they should introduce the Black Cat and get rid of Gwen Stacy.

hanso • May 23, 2008, 04:18am •
I would like to see a Green Arrow movie. Maybe they could link that film to the JLA movie.
You know Favreu is coming back.
Don't know anything about Kick Ass but DeNiro's great so I guess it's a good thing, unless its Rocky & Bullwinkle.
Spider-Man, wait a few years, recast and I will keep suggesting they let James Cameron direct it. You know the man can make sequels that are better than the original.

Where is my boy Wise? I feel for ya but hey, at least there was a Ray Allen sighting last night right? I'm sweating out with the other series, Lake Show needed a comeback sparked by the MVP, don't know if that can keep happening.

Dazzler • May 23, 2008, 04:24am •
TF needs better writing for adults also besides cameos. I almost wish the movie did not make that much bank so they would address that issue. Make the movie for adults and the kids will follow like they usually do. They should also take a song from Stan Bush. He made kick ass songs for original which are my favorite to this day with The Touch and Dare. He made a song I guess got passed for new movie but should be considered again.

ponyboy76 • May 23, 2008, 05:01am •
Stan Bush? Is there a cornier song written for a movie? "You got the touch.. You got the power!" Awful! Maybe they can get him and Celine Dion to do a duet for the next TF movie.

wessmith1966 • May 23, 2008, 05:37am •
Here's what I'd like to see in Spider-Man 4...Dr. Conners, through experimentation to regrow his arm, becomes the Lizard and terrorizes the city. To boost newspaper sales and the Bugle's image, J.J. hires the world's most renowned hunter, Kraven, to track down and capture the beast. In the meantime, Peter finds out that Conners is the Lizard and begins a hunt of his own. Gwen Stacey, who has become something of a celebrity in the city, is now a local TV reporter and assigned the Kraven hunt story. Spider-Man and Kraven find the Lizard at the same time and a three-way battle ensues with Peter trying to stop the Lizard from doing any more damage, and Kraven from killing the Lizard. Gwen and her camera crew arrive on scene to cover the story. During the battle, Peter saves the Lizard, who changes back into Dr. Conners, and embarrasses the proud and egotistical Kraven on TV. Kraven becomes obsessed with Spider-Man and slowly goes off the deep end. Seeing dollar signs at the possibility Spiderman's unmasking, J.J. hires Kraven again, this time to capture Spider-Man. Kraven gets a battle suit from an unknown source to amp up his already formidable physical abilites, giving him the power to go toe-to-toe with Spider-Man. During this time, Gwen and Peter run into each other a lot covering the same stories and get close, causing a rift between Peter and Mary Jane. There's also jealousy on MJ's part, because as her star seems to be setting, Gwen's is rising. Kraven eventually discovers Peter is Spider-Man and uses Gwen as bait to lure Peter into a trap. During the battle between the two, Gwen falls. Peter tries to save her and...snap...broken neck and Gwen dies. Peter brings down Kraven, almost killing him, when Mary Jane shows up to save Peter's soul and Kraven's life by talking Peter down. "Peter, remember Uncle Ben! With great power..." A tired and guilt-ridden Peter drops Kraven to the ground and walks over to Mary Jane's waiting arms "Comes great responsibility." The movie ends with a pair of glowing eyes in the darkness watching Peter and Mary Jane walk away. In Spider-Man 5...The goblin returns. I think the leads will be recast with a new director at the helm, but that's ok with me.

I never got into transformers when I was younger and the movie didn't do much for me either. It was a fun popcorn movie. I hope the characters fans want to see are all in the next movie.

I still wonder if Supermax is going to get made. A super hero movie without a super hero. I just don't see it doing well, regardless of who the villains are.

I hope Favreau comes back for another Iron Man and then Avengers. Hell, I'd like to see him do Captain America, because he really seemed to grasp what the audience and fans wanted to see. Marvel should back up the money truck to Favreau's house, dump a load of cash on his front door and secure him for a series of movies. He's proven he can mix effects, acting and storyline.

ponyboy76 • May 23, 2008, 06:06am •
The only problem I have with your story Wessmith is having the Goblin return, unless its like the Hobgoblin or someone else. Granted Harry wasn`t really the Goblin, he built that glider thing and revamped the suit. I'm tired of any sort of reference to the Green Goblin. I also don't think Gwen needs to necessarily die. I think it would be cool to turn it around and have MJ die instead, especially if its still Dunst. Great idea though.

WISEGUY562 • May 23, 2008, 06:27am •
My vote for villains for Spidey is the Sinister 6. However I understand people may be turned off to that because it may be too much for one story. If not I'd settle for Kraven with maybe one other rogue as his underling.


Kick Ass is about a regular kid being raised by his dad. Kid reads comics and fantasizes about being superhero like most kids would but he goes a step further and actually tries with dire results.
DeNiro could be the kid's father in. Only two issues are out so I'm not sure how many characters he could fill besides the father.


Super Max I thought was basically in development hell. But after reading some of the script and the rogues they want to include I'm very much for them making it. Just don't let Goyer direct, I haven't been impressed by anything he's directed but seems like his writing is top notch.

Favreau has to come back, he was awesome with IM. That's unless they're planning on going with him for the Avengers film. But he should be able to do both they are a year apart. Jarrod is it Paramount or Marvel who decide wether or not to bring him back.


hanso • May 23, 2008, 06:32am •
I'll say this for the last time cause it's been on my mind and I know some of you feel me on this.

Pimpin ain't easy.

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