Happily Ever After was pretty much what I expected, yet I will still give it my usual 3 episodes to improve before I dump it.  I am really not sure what demographic it will appeal to.  I will check out Grimm, even though it realy does sound like a cross between Fables and Supernatural.

TWD definitely redeemed itself this week...I was on the edge of my seat from beginning to end, and some great casting choices for Herschel and the rest if the Green family.  Looking forward to Joe's review.

I was not sure Dexter would ever reach the height it did in season 4, but this season is blowing my mind....Although I have never been the biggest Tom Hanks fan, Colin is proving himself to be one hell of an actor...Edward James Olmos, the man is a legend for a reason....the biggest mind blower for me though is Mos Def.  Every week he takes it to another level when I never really thought he would have the emotional acting levels that he is bringing to the show.

 Grimm?  As if I don't have enough to watch Fridays at 9 (what is the logic of putting every show designed to appeal to what is already a limited audience on at the same time?). This is an on demand thing, if that.

I have to be the contrarian and say I wasn't wild about 30 Days of Night.  The vampires are never developed as characters and, as such, are little different from the hyperkinetic zombies in some of the more recent pictures in that genre.  I can't remember the name of the creator of 30 Days of Night (and I'm too lazy to look it up right now), but I saw him on that Deadliest Warrior:  Vampires versus Zombies episode and while props to him for shredding the whole Twilight angsty vampire shtick, the way he did it was to turn vampires into mere animals.  For example, at no point in that show did he suggest that vampires might use weapons to knock off the zombies at a distance or tactics such as getting into a location where zombies would have to approach one at a time rather than swarm.  No, it was all slash with the claws and bite; it might as well have been zombies versus grizzlies or tigers. 

@fatpantz Once Upon A TIme (not Happily Ever After) was actually really good. My Wife & I really were pleasantly surprised that it held our attention. The only complaint I had was the very obvious CGI scenes ala Sanctuary. They could have been done just a little bit better. But all in all the story is an interesting take on what happened after Charming married Snow. I also like that the wicked witch queen was caght by her own curse, seemingly intentionally, which makes you wonder if she suffered the same "forget who I REALLY am" effect of if she is just playing the part.  I liked it. two thumbs up or 41/2 stars out of 5 or whatever scale you grade it on, it deserves a watch.

You would think NBC wouldn't want to air a new show on a Friday night.  Sounds like they don't have a lot of confience in it.

fenngibbon, I think the logic they are using when they put all scifi/fantasy shows on Friday is...

A) Geeks don't have a social life so while normal people are going out on Fridays and not staying home to watch TV, geeks will ge glued to their TV sets, not hitting on chicks in bars.

B) The viewing audience is already used to seeing that genre of programming in that time slot.  Perhaps they will sample the new program, like it better than what they were watching and switch to the new show permenantly.

The mistakes they are making are...

A) Geeks DO have social lives and Friday evening is often an inconvienient time slot for them to watch .

B) Geeks are a very loyal audience.  They are less likely (I think) than others to choose to throw over a show they like in favor of a new show.

I watched the first season of Fringe and liked it, but when they scheduled it against Supernatural, Supernatural won and now I don't watch Fringe any more.  Too bad for Fox. 

Monday Wednesday and possibly Thursday - World Series - GO Cards!!!!

Then from the list I'll get The Big Bang Theory, Fringe, Walking Dead and Dexter.  Though I DVR a lot more non-genre shows not on the list.  

Last week's BBT was pure shit though.  The writing for Sheldon's mom was a little too over the top.

Really?  REALLY?!  NBC puts a bad "Buffy" rip-off up against Supernatural?  That's not hoping for the show to turn them around.  That's hoping the show will die quickly and quietly, so they can go back to failing with cheap sitcoms rather than failing with expensive dramas, genre shows, or anything requiring thought and a little investment.

Sounds to me like NBC is playing with FOX's playbook.

Grimm sounds like Lost Girl, the Canadian show about a Succubus private eye. I thought that was pretty good (though haven't managed to finish S1), and possibly better than the new series.

Lost Girl is an entertaining show....they maintain decent effects on a Canadian TV budget...along the lines of a SyFy show.  The 2nd season is much better than the first.  They have found a bit more of a main story to follow.

Rob,

Reading your commentary is hillarious! Dead on about SyFy and the fact that they work very hard to give you the worst movies to look at.

When the sutis over at NBC jumped the shark with Heroes, that pretty much was the nail in the coffin for them. They've been trying to get some mojo back ever since that debacle. FAIL. They're definitely in need of better writers over there that actually have an idea of what people really want to see; instead of listening to morons who don't have an idea of what works anymore?