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fenngibbon 6/24/2013 6:45:20 AM

 Just out of curiosity, did you consider Under the Dome's title sufficiently self-explanatory that you didn't feel the need to say one word related to the what the show is about?

I just don't get the negativity toward Iron Man 2. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  The Prestige is a great movie ruined by the ending.  It's not the only Nolan movie with a problematic ending (e.g., The Dark Knight), but it's the most extreme case of it.

"And seriously, have any of the Bond actors bowed out with any real grace?"

If you don't count "Never Say Never Again," then Connery's last flick, "Diamonds Are Forever," is a fun flick to go out on (the fact that Jill St. John is the girl doesn't hurt).  Do we count Lazenby, since the film he came in on was also the one he went out on?

And everyone complains about the invisible car, but the funny thing is, that technology is much closer to being real than a lot of the Bond gadgets.

 

jackwagon 6/24/2013 8:23:17 AM

@fenngibbon - For me, Iron Man 2 was a stinker because it had no focus.  What was it about?  Was it about Whiplash seeking revenge on Tony Stark?  Was it about Sam Rockwell's character trying to overtake Stark Industries?  Was it about Tony trying to heal himself from the technology that was both killing him and keeping him alive?  Was it about the U.S. government trying to take over the Iron Man tech from Tony Stark?

Any one of these threads by itself could have made for an excellent film.  Instead, Iron Man 2 followed suit with Spiderman 3 in trying to cram so much stuff into a single film, that every thread suffered for it.

fenngibbon 6/24/2013 8:36:20 AM

 jackwagon:

I get what you're saying, and they could have easily stripped out the "Tony's tech is killing him" bit without affecting the movie (the jerk senator bit wasn't necessary, either, but it did link in with Hammer, which connected to Whiplash, so removing it would have required some retinkering).  For me, though, it didn't matter if it was there because it didn't detract from the film.  

As for focus, the overarching focus of the film was the consequences of Stark being Iron Man, and the film explored several aspects of that, and while those various aspects don't really intertwine (three of them play off one another), the film to me doesn't feel overstuffed or rambling aimlessly.

jackwagon 6/24/2013 9:09:03 AM

 I think Whiplash could have sought his revenge on Tony without having to ally himself with Hammer.  In fact, it was Hammer who approached Whiplash in designing more powerful suits used to combat the Iron Man armor in the first place.  What that means is Hammer could have been excised from the film entirely, and Whiplash could have gone after Tony all by himself.  That would have made the entire film much more focused.

On another note, I had to track down the trailer for Independence Day-saster online.  Calling that film a cheap knock off of Independence Day would be insulting to cheap knock offs of Independence Day.  Tom Everett Scott is the President, and he gives the weakest speech modeled after Bill Pullman's speech possible.  I'm amazed these garbage films even get made in the first place.

jdiggitty 6/24/2013 9:36:55 AM

 So yeah, Under the Dome, a mysterious, invisible dome covers a town in Maine one day. The book was horrible, IMO. I threw it away after being pissed I wasted so much time on it. 

karas1 6/24/2013 9:40:28 AM

I liked Iron Man 2 untill the end.  It bogged down in too much action, and it was unbelievable action.  With all that stuff blowing up none of that large audience full of innocent bystanders got hurt?  And if people did get hurt or killed, Tony Stark didn't seem very affected by it, not too heroic.

I read Under The Dome and found it very derivitive.  King cannibalized some of his earlier works (particurlarly The Mist) and stuck an ending from an old ST:TOS episode on it.  I wasn't too impressed.  Hopefully this filmed version will give it something the print version is missing.

CalamityJohnson 6/25/2013 8:26:11 AM

I have to echo your sentiments re: Heat. Amazing it didn't get more Oscar recognition. Pacino's last great performance, not to mention mintage De Niro. Every other character played their parts perfectly and for many their bests: Tom Sizemore, Val Kilmer, Danny Trejo, although small part), Ashley Judd, and even a young Natalie Portman. Best bank heist scene...EVER. So intense and gritty it inspired a real life bank heist that left several police officers dead in Los Angeles more than ten years ago. Look it up...

Now, with Hannibal, Mad Men, and GoT done my television viewing this summer is gonna be dismal... although I'm really enjoying The Killing (which should get some nods in this article if shows like Heat and Dexter do).

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