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Newdude718 3/18/2014 5:04:48 AM

 That was the best episode this season, very emotional and intense. I really feel for carols character and respect how shrew has grown into a killing machine/rational thinker. You really can't be mad at the decisions she made she does what no one else will do. 

I thought the smoke was from a overrun terminus but makes more sense that it's from the house Daryl and Beth set a blaze. ( but there were no walkers in the house) so I guess well see next week. 


Side note, does anyone else notice that they have been changing baby Judith out, that's not the same baby from the beginning or the last episode at least halfway threw. It's gonna be a crazy emotional episode when they all meet up. I wonder how they will say what happened to the girls. 

SarcasticCaveman 3/18/2014 5:17:31 AM

 I gave this episode an A , and I honestly think it is the best of the season so far.  When the end rolled around, I had absolutely no snark to offer.  Midway through the episode, I posted on Facebook that Lizzie "...gots to GEW!", sort of quoting James Franco from "This Is The End"...but jeez, I did NOT expect her to GEW like that.  Hardcore stuff going on.

ElBaz13 3/18/2014 5:38:24 AM

Definitely the best episode and Melissa McBride deserves Emmy consideration just for this episode alone. The look on her face when she sees Mika dead. Her reaction after offing Lizzie and then her confession to Tyrese. All gold.

In the real world, Lizzie would be on meds or locked up in a mental institution. Sadly, none of those are available. The choice would be to abandon her or put her out of her misery. There is no reform for someone like that. Sleeping with one eye open to watch for walkers while the other eye watches for Lizzie? No thanks.

But, what if that was Carol's own daughter? The outcome would have been different I'm sure.

ElBaz13 3/18/2014 5:39:24 AM

According to Talking Dead, walkers have poor vision and get attracted to light. They were drawn by the fire. So it could have been walkers drawn to Daryl's blaze. Unless something else happens.


xpaladinx45 3/18/2014 6:21:23 AM

 Going to send Elbaz's props to Melissa McBride.  Amazing acting job by her in this episode.

As for the Lizzie decision, I hope I would have made the same choice in the same situation.  You can't take that girl with you.  You can't fix what is broken inside her.  You can't trust her around the baby, or even around yourselves to sleep.  I hope I would have had it in me to "put her down."  If not, you abandon her, which I think is a fate far worse in this world.  It's unfortunate that they didn't see the signs of how messed up this girl was sooner, but even if they did, I suspect they wouldn't have believed she was as messed up as she turned out to be.

Fun conversation when they all meet up again..."Hey, you guys didn't happen to have Lizzie and Mika did you??"  "...uhm.....Hey! Look, here's Judith!"


ElBaz13 3/18/2014 6:36:22 AM

It's funny you mention that, Chris Hardwick, Meliissa McBride and the 2 other guests were making fun of that on Talking Dead. Someone asked what will Rick and the gang ask.

Hardwicke said:

Rick "Hey, where are  those kids Lizzie and Mika?"

Tyrese/Carol "What kids?  Weren't they with you or Glen?"


redvector 3/18/2014 6:36:42 AM

 Both Lizzie and Mika were both doomed to die, one didn't see the Walkers as a threat,  the other wouldn't defend herself against the living. I think Tyrese is freaked out that he was sleeping next to a serial killer child who could have cut his throat while he slept. Hell she could have killed them all and eventually would have.

violator14 3/18/2014 7:42:32 AM

 Like I said I knew you guys would disagree. Again, I personally wouldn't have given up so early and would have tried other things first before killing her. I guess you guys wouldn't. But think about this, I highly doubt Carol would have shot lizzie if it was her own daughter. I think she would have tried 100 other things first. And I know all of you would think twice about that If it was your own kid as well. 

Oh and I think it's pretty obvious the fire is from Darryl and Beth. Theres nothing else to it. 

ElBaz13 3/18/2014 8:06:11 AM

Different story if it was my kid violator. I would have split up from Tyrese to go off alone with my kid.

But at the same time, I would be dooming Tyrese and the baby as he wouldn't be able to survive alone with Judith. But, it's my own blood vs a complete stranger. I would take my own blood (despite being a psychopath) over a stranger.

Lizzie was beyonf help (in a zombie apocalpse) and a decision had to be made. This kid was a stranger to Carol and in a world like this, you have to look out on your own. From my old D&D days, Carol did the true neutral thing. Someone of lawful good nature would have done like you and tried to work something out.  I guess you would make a good paladin. :)

Had they been in Woodbury or still safe in the prison, the outcome would have been differemt. They would have locked her up and tried working something out with her.

Eldogg42 3/18/2014 8:26:25 AM

I'm going there and saying the fire was definately Beth & Daryl's Moonshine Shack. What Chris said on Talking Dead about they are attracted to the light, plus in that episode, they showed some walkers being drawn to the fire, thats why they turned all of a sudden and walked away. The only part I agree with Violater on is, that Carol or Tyrese should of never left those girls alone. It should of always been 1 adult/1 Kid ratio. Her sloppiness is what got Minka killed. As far as Carol killing Loony Lizzy, Sha had to. They don't have mental wards or Zolof or any other type of treatment for the mentally batshit in the Zombie Apocalypse. He she would of been kept alive, she would of endangered everyone she came in contact of. She was a sociopath who had no remorse for what she did. This is a type of Kid who shoots up an elementary school because he felt like it.

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