The Walking Dead: Made to Suffer Review Comments -


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mikemc2 12/5/2012 3:33:31 AM

I am good with Michonne waiting for the Governor to come back instead of going out to hunt him down.  Very Samurai like...quietly waiting for your enemy to come to you.  Saw the episode last night finally...wife not a fan of the genre so had to wait for good time to see it.

As for when Michonne finally rejoined the group, I agree..they were making alot of racket and very close to the 2 guards patrolling the "wall".  At least this was not an A-Team moment, I can't remember the name but the big guy they found in the prison did get shot / killed so it wasn't exactly a clean get-away & Daryl did get caught..on that note I only saw the episode once (watching while wife made dinner) so I don't remember seeing him get caught?

goldeneyez 12/5/2012 5:43:21 AM

Hanso, The Governor wants to kill Rick's group in the show because they are strong and as such a threat to his authority.  You can justify this because ultimately it was the same reason he killed the National Guardsmen.  He also now has the added motivation of wanting revenge on Michonne who in his mind is part of Rick's group

As far as neither the Governor or Michonne not getting infected by the zombie juice, the best explaination I've heard is this, everyone is already infected by whatever pathogen causes people to turn into zombies, so for a healthy person rolling around in zombie juice won't do much to you.  The thing that starts the zombification process is death.  A healthy person won't just turn into a zombie automatically.  Hence the zombie juice roll, getting zombie splatter,etc. won't turn you.  Zombie bites, however, would be like getting bitten by a Komodo dragon.  There's all kinds of nasty bacteria hanging around in the lizard's mouths, so if you get bitten, you get blood poisoning and die of sepsis.  If we liken zombies to this, that's why the bite is so dangerous, it causes blood poisoning, the person dies and then becomes a zombie.

ddiaz28 12/5/2012 6:47:09 AM
I think some people missed the discussion on page 3. I posted Kirkman's official answer to how and why people turn. It's pretty much what goldeneyez just said.
Wiseguy 12/5/2012 6:49:26 AM

I liken the virus to HIV which is almost impossible to transmit once it makes contact with air

ddiaz28 12/5/2012 6:51:11 AM
Also I do think wanting to take the prison makes more sense as in the books but in the show they've made it pretty clear that the governor doesn't want competition for power. He killed the soldiers even though they would have been great defense for his town because he saw them as a threat to his dominance. Especially after this attack, he now sees Rick and co. in the same light so he wants to take them out. He even explained that who would want to give up their cushy town to live in prison cells. It makes sense. I think sometimes we are too quick to criticize the writers. I'm guilty of that as well.
JonnyRotten 12/5/2012 7:25:35 AM

 It not just about competition for power but also about resources, if another group is taking supplies in the area, then that has to be dealt with.  Food and supplies will run out soon. Also, the women need to be contained for breeding stock (sorry if this sounds sexist, but it would be).

Wiseguy 12/5/2012 7:39:12 AM

Totally agree JR. After Sandy hit the northeast folk in some areas were stock piling and hoarding for illogical and irrational fears as if it was the end. So in this extreme case I can see that fear amplified a thousand times.

The power stuff is true too which is probably why he seems willing to take in loners where there's no hierarchy and no one would challenge him as leader

makabriel 12/5/2012 9:24:59 AM

If you remember, the Governor basically freaked out when he found out a small group cleared out the prison by themselves when they could not.  He knows that their group is much stronger, more capable, and therefore a threat..


goldeneyez 12/5/2012 10:26:45 AM

Sorry ddiaz28, I hadn't seen your response.

momitchell7 12/5/2012 10:40:14 AM

Samson, I completely disagree with your assessment of the Season 3 writing... Aside from a few very minor missteps (like the ones being discused in this post) I think Season 3 has had the best writing yet. Season 2? I was really close to cancelling my DVR recording settings of the series, so I'm glad that I didn't, because I think this season has been great.

Okay, now onto one of the glaring problems I saw in this episode... How in the heck hasn't anyone in the prison addressed the massive, gaping hole in the back wall?! When they got there, Rick ran the perimeter at least 50 times and not a word about it was mentioned (that I can recall)?

I thought that was very poorly done... It would have made a lot more sense if they had simply gone under the fence, or cut a hole themselves, rather than have the audience saying "WTH"?


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