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JonnyRotten 11/28/2011 9:54:33 AM

millean, sorry about any hints I may have given you, but the show is not following any part of the comics, do not worry, the written materials stand on their own.  But in saying that, I hate spoilers as much as you do and it will not happen again.

millean 11/28/2011 10:16:00 AM

No worries man, it is all in good fun.  (I couldn't even tell you who have even dropped the spoilers as there has been a bunch of them.)   I would rather have a few spoilers dropped and have a passionate discussion, than to have no discussion at all....

But I do think I am going to go ahead and try reading the books before the haitus is over.  I didn't even know there was a Walking Dead until this show aired.

InnerSanctum 11/28/2011 10:18:41 AM

 Wow, this thread is jumping.

I have to completely agree.  This episode was A all the way.  I already had guess that Sophia was most likely in the barn, but it still hit me hard when she emerged.  One of the problems with a show with kids and a year between seasons..the kids grow up.  This was evident in Lost when they had to find a contrived way to rid themselves of all the children.  That said....what an emotional scene.  

Shane is, by far, a very interesting character.  He makes a great right hand man.  If he can retain his stability.  I still agree with Dale and Rick however.  If you lose you humanity...what else do you have left?  

This powerful story is why I feel the show is going in the right direction.  I believe Kirkman has even approved of many of the changes.  He said Shane was a missed opportunity.  Good.  It is nice to know the creator understands the difference between the mediums and is willing to work in both.  

This is some excellent TV.  

 

 

DougRed4 11/28/2011 10:26:31 AM

I've got to agree.  Another great review and an outstanding episode!

Chopsaki 11/28/2011 10:41:01 AM

Wow...just wow. Awsome!

invisioner 11/28/2011 10:43:25 AM

Guys, you have to remember that Kirkman is a creative influence on the show too, he understands writer's needs to NOT retread but to create, and I suspect Kirkman ALSO, when writing the comic, had crossroads where he said "what if I keep Shane alive?" "What if I killed the girl?" Now he gets to see how that plays out by doing it.

We have a source material to follow one path, and the show to follow another, I am good with it.

 

Before I got into motion picture work, I writhed like a vampire in a holy water hottub, but now, I can appreciate the differences in many cases.

MrOptimusPrime 11/28/2011 10:53:19 AM

I love all the comments on this show from each one of you.....nice to see that everyone in this country has not adopted the "herd of sheep or maybe the zombie herd" mentality.  Now I did not read any of the comice before I stated watching the show but I am reading them now (I just finished the 1st TPB and it was good and the ending was shocking becaus ethe show is so different!!)  That being said I can enjoy both of them.  In the past decade we all have seen comics, old tv shows etc being remade or reimagined or whatever else Hollywood is going to call it and some have been huge hits and some have been steaming piles of rotten turducken!!  But to each his own right!!  We can all find things in these "reimagined" movies, tv shows etc to like and dislike.  Personally I have enjoyed my particular brand of "reimagined" stuff (Transformers; GIJOE; STAR TREK; Mission Impossible; X-Men & BSG just to name a few) but I have also hated some others that I do not follow as closely (Green Lantern; The A-Team; Superman Returns to name a few more)

So what am I saying here......lets keep the debate(s) rolling here and on other sites because clearly movie suits are paying attention to what is being said here among the fans.  The day they stop listening to us or at least read what we are talking about is the day we all will die a little more inside becasue then we will not get anything that we want on tv or in the movies!! 

As far as TWD last nite it was AWESOME!!  Shane is my new anti-hero and if I were him and Rick old Herschel would have to go along with my plan (put down all the walkers in the barn....can you kill a zombie since its already dead??  NO!!)  accept us on "the farm" as equals and get as many supplies as possible there and set up some kind of perimeter defense or you will just have to be killed!!  This is a frakkin ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE here!!!  If you are not going to get with that then get out of mine and Shane's way!!  LOL!!!!!

 

 

invisioner 11/28/2011 10:54:16 AM

At ElBaz13,

I don't think Rick iced Sophia to pay due to Hershel, he did it because he viewed all his people as his responsibility, and Sophia getting lost and bitten as his fault. He did it because it was his duty to do it, and no one else's.

millean 11/28/2011 11:02:20 AM

Yep, I agree with invisioner.  In fact, didn't Rick even say in one of the first episodes of the season that if he found Sophia as a walker then he would take her down?  He absolutely felt responsible.

By the way, Sophia's mom has done a complete 180 since that episode as well.  She went from blaming Rick and wanting to find Sophia at all costs to now not even wanting Daryl to risk his neck looking for her.  Women...  :)

samson 11/28/2011 11:06:49 AM

Great job Joe. You nailed another one. 

It wasn't until they started "bulletizing" the walkers coming out of the barn did I realize Sophia would be one of them. Wow, great scene. If anyone remembers, I was the one clamouring about Merle having Sophia. Boy, was I wrong about that one! Glad I was, too. This twist was sooooooo much better. It's not often a show surprises me like that.

Does anyone else think a huge part of the reason Herschal didn't want them to know about the barn is because he knew Sophia was in there? In his mind, that little girl had her whole life ahead of her. If a "cure" could be found, because of her youth, she would benefit the most. Wonder if they will adress that in Febuary?

I'm torn about Shane's actions. A man's home is his castle and I'm, big on property rights. But, as Joe alluded to, in that world, maybe our notions of right or wrong wouldn't apply.

Don't know if this has been talked about before, but could it be possible the title, "The Walking Dead" actually applies to those who are still alive? As time goes on, they will have to loose more and more of their humanity to survive. At what point do they stop behaving as civilized human beings and become a form of intelligent zombie?

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