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Watch Out! WATCHMEN 2 Is Coming!

Because you can't stop the inevitable

By Chad Derdowski     August 11, 2010
Source: Mania


Comicscape: Is a WATCHMEN sequel inevitable?
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Just before this year’s San Diego Comic Con, comic book visionary Alan Moore broke the news: DC had offered him the rights to Watchmen, “… if I would agree to some dopey prequels and sequels”, as he so eloquently put it. Needless to say, Moore refused and blabbed to the comics media about it. DC co-publishers Dan DiDio and Jim Lee responded by assuring fans that “Watchmen is the most celebrated graphic novel of all time. Rest assured, DC Comics would only revisit these iconic characters if the creative vision of any proposed new stories matched the quality set by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons nearly 25 years ago, and our first discussion on any of this would naturally be with the creators themselves.”

Which, roughly translated, seems to say “You can bet your sweet ass there’s gonna be a sequel, a prequel or both.”

 

Don’t Kid Yourself

Remember when Jason Todd was killed and Denny O’Neil made that remark about how “It would be a really sleazy stunt to bring him back”? Remember how Wolverine’s origin was always shrouded in mystery and Captain America was always tormented by Bucky’s death? Remember the love triangle between Superman, Clark and Lois? Remember Spider-Man’s marriage? Some things change for the better; other things change for the worse. We’re not here to debate the merits of these stories though. We’re just commenting on the fact that in this day and age, stories and subjects previously thought untouchable and taboo are now seeing the light of day. A Watchmen sequel or series of prequels might seem like sacrilege, but so did all of the previously mentioned stories. Sooner or later, someone will come up with an idea and pitch it to the right editor who says “Why not?”

Waaaaaaay back in 2008, an edition of Comicscape appeared which praised DC Comics for resisting what must’ve been a pretty intense temptation to do any Watchmen-related stories, especially with the release of the movie looming. Well, that was two years ago, Paul Levitz isn’t the big man anymore and DC is looking to step up their game. Scroll back up a bit and re-read that statement from DiDio and Lee. It doesn’t say “we won’t do another Watchmen story without Moore and Gibbons”, but merely states that these characters won’t be used unless the creative vision matched the quality of the original. Well… quality is subjective, folks. One man’s junk is another man’s treasure and as far as we’re concerned, they’re just preparing us for the inevitable.

Do you really think that J. Michael Straczynski honestly believes that a short leather jacket and spurs are “… a look designed to be taken seriously as a warrior”? Of course not. But the powers-that-be will tell you whatever they feel is necessary in order to sell a story and a company man will give you the company line. We’re not trying to pick on JMS here (we’ll save that for our reviews of Superman) or even Wonder Woman’s costume. We’re just preparing you for Dan DiDio’s inevitable comments about how ‘We couldn’t get Alan and Dave back… but these guys have cooked up a truly amazing story that’s really on par with what what they did back in 1986, only modernized.’ or whatever it is he’s gonna say when the Watchmen pre/sequels are announced.

 

Then Again… No

The flipside of the coin was actually brought up by one of the fellows working at our local comic shop (Fun 4 All in beautiful Ypsilanti, MI). Simply put, who the hell is gonna step up to that plate?

One has to assume that any number of writers and artists would love to do a Rorschach story or get inside the head of Dr. Manhattan for a few pages. Maybe they’ve even written their own Watchmen spinoffs that they’ve tucked away in a private file or folder in a locked vault somewhere. And we’re pretty sure that most anyone who has done professional comic work has likely done a Watchmen sketch or two. But who wants to subject themselves to the public scrutiny that would go along with writing the Watchmen sequel? It doesn’t matter how good the story actually is, it’s gonna get panned by a lot of readers even before they’ve seen the cover. Comic fans live to dispense insults and talk trash about a product, sight unseen. Hell, there are already fans declaring the Captain America film a bomb based on the fact that pre-production pictures don’t feature wings on the helmet! Any Watchmen-related project, even one with Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons onboard, would be the biggest target to ever hit a comic shop. Who in their right mind would tackle that kind of assignment?

Okay… who other than Grant Morrison would tackle that kind of assignment?

 

Multiversity

Speaking of Grant Morrison, remember all that hubub about his proposed Multiversity project? Remember the one that was described as “… if Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons had pitched Watchmen now, rooted in a contemporary political landscape but with the actual Charlton characters instead of analogues!”?

We’re not really sayin’ anything here… we’re just thinking out loud.

It could go a million different ways. We don’t expect to see a straight-up sequel, but we wouldn’t be surprised to see a few one-shots focusing on each character during the primes of their career, with several different creative teams working on it. Maybe a mini-series or five. It really doesn’t matter how they do it – it won’t be Watchmen any more than that Scarlett book was Gone With the Wind or Son of Kong was a worthy successor to King Kong. Does anybody remember 1986’s King Kong Lives? Didn’t think so. Hell, does anybody remember Dark Knight Strikes Again at this point?

So as far as we’re concerned, it’s cool. We’re not complaining here, just playing Nostradamus and predicting what we feel is an inevitable future. We’re not worried about it either. We’re crossing our fingers for something worthwhile, but if it’s not – Watchmen will still sit on our shelves alongside the original Star Wars trilogy and the first three Indiana Jones movies. Bad sequels don’t ruin the originals or rape childhoods; they just remind us how awesome the original was in the first place.

And hey… if anybody at DC is listening, we’d love to be proven wrong.

COMMENTS AND RESPONSES

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cdale78 8/11/2010 4:24:57 AM

The only possible way this could be worthwhile is if Gibbons is involved.  I think it's a no-win situation for DC storywise.  Even if it's the best comic of the year, it will still pare in comparison to the original, and the more likely scenario is that it won't even be that good.  It is a sure-fire seller though, and DC is a business after all.  I'm sure George Lucas didn't care too much about the criticism of his prequels, as he watched the millions roll in. 

I just don't understand what they could do in a prequel or sequel.  a sequel would seem to be largely uninteresting considering the state of the world, and lack of Rorschach.  a prequel also unnecessary, as all the key events were covered in flashback in the original series, so what you're left with is generic super hero adventures in a golden or silver age fashion. 

another Legion issue of Adventure Comics this week!!!

jedibanner 8/11/2010 6:27:53 AM

This feels like when it was rumored that Frank Miller would do a sequel to The Dark Night....look how well that worked out.

Mr. Moore has the right mind, SOME things are better left untouched. Doesn't mean everything needs to but, sometimes, SOME needs to be left alone.

Why? The main reason is that everyone one, everywhere, anytime would read this suppose sequel or prequel and compare it to the original. It would be impossible to read this new story without compare it and therefore, it would be doomed from day 1 to fail. Even if Alan Moore went back to it, people woudl still compare it to the first.

And the fact that crappy DC is trying to go back to something that was successful 30 years ago and can't find new ways to hype their company with their actual characters right now is a signed DC is fishing for anything right now.

At least it gives them publicity...not good one but still.

8man 8/11/2010 6:38:20 AM

Well whatever they do, they need to have Rohrshach and the Comedian involved.  I dunno how they do it, but their two characters are too warped and complex to leave out.  Maybe this time Rohrshach can bang Silk Spectre.  Anyway, I wouldn't mind a series of graphic novels, or one big one, with both prequels and sequels.

Besides that alternative world was fascinating to me.  I grew up in that time frame and it give's me a neat sort of insight into the "what if?" question.

Loved the movie.

 

Rheul_home 8/11/2010 6:53:35 AM

I cold easily see someone doing stories with these individual characters. Maybe elaborating on some of the stories hinted at in Watchmen, but I think it would be in poor taste. It would be exceptionally poor taste to put them all in one book in an attempt to exploit the source material. Maybe a four issue Rorschach or Comedian story would be cool if it stood on its own without tying itself to plot lines from the original book. Maybe The Minutemen would work since the characters arent as recognizable as The Watchmen. Ideally they should the classic stand alone as it has for the last 20 years.

Hobbs 8/11/2010 6:54:07 AM

I always like your article Chad even if I don't comment on them. 

I'm supporting Alan Moore on this issue and I never support Alan Moore on any issue.  He wrote it as a stand alone 12 issue mini series.  Sometimes there really isn't anymore to the story.  Remember when DC gave a sheet lot of cash to Frank Miller for a Dark Knight Strikes again and what a mess that ended up being?  This would be more of the same but I agree it would make money and that's the name of the game.

WHen they finally do it the thing will never work.  Some of the mystic is gone (actually a lot of it is) because this thing was written during the Cold War when Russians were our biggest worry.  The world has changed too much for anything they write to be relevent in the Watchmen universe.

Tevii 8/11/2010 7:46:58 AM

I agree with Alan Moore. leave this alone. Watchmen was revolutionary at the time. To a new reader, if they read it now it wouldnt  have the impact it did, because it SET a standard.

Now they are planning on a sequel? You cant really plan on revolutionary. Even if someone approaches with a bold, revolutionary take, it will be that exact take that will be rejected because they dont want to take such a risk with these characters.

Let it go. Watchmen has its place in history. Now move on

urphatgod 8/11/2010 9:16:52 AM

" Who in their right mind would tackle that kind of assignment?

Okay… who other than Grant Morrison would tackle that kind of assignmeny?"

Have you ever read an interview with that guy...Brilliant writer, but far from in his "Right" Mind...

Doing anyting with Watchmen would be a bad idea, the few people who read it will hate it, and it will just cost money for DC...Also 52 had a pseudo sequel in it at one point, where they visited that world, if I remember right it didn't go over well. Why try something you already know nobody is going to like or buy?

Alan Moore is thinking clearly, but apparantly DC is not.

@Jedibanner:

"Sucky" DC is actually producing Comic books people want to read, Marvel hasn't done that for a few years. Yes their movies are great but they have been slacking in the actual Comic department for a while and it shows. (With the exception of Straczyinkis's Thor) I havent been happy with a Marvel title in a very long time...DC has been throwin out hit after hit and Great stories for the last decade while Marvel flounders trying to find a direction that the Mouse is okay with. going so far as to try and pre-name an era of publishing.

Frankly I see Marvel loosing all credibility within 10 years because they cant just make a F***ing Comic book anymore Everything is an event, and none of it matters, aren't Events supposed to mean something and have an impact? Marvel just doesnt care anymore, they have gone back to a Golden age level of idiocy where Continuity doesnt exist, and characters just do whatever the writer wants per issue instead of matching up to who they are meant to be.

I'm sick of it, in the last few years I went from a Diehard Marvel Fanboy to a DC Junkie, why...DC tells good stories in the tradition of what the characters stand for, while Marvel tries to "innovate" and just screws up all their best characters...when something cool does happen the next douchebag they bring in reverses it because he has a "Better" idea. Marvel stopped caring about the Comics when they started their film studio and it shows.

most of what they do now isn't worthy of Extreme studios, In fact I think Extreme may have had a clearer vision, thats saying something...

jedibanner 8/11/2010 11:03:10 AM

Well ''urphatgod'', we could argue until we areblue in the face and our lungs blowout of our bellies.

I think it's the opposite of what you said and I feel DC is just running after Marvel ebcause the comics they put out is not as good as Marvel.

That's my take, it's all good if you don't agree....I would say the super sales, great movies and excellent cartoons Marvel does right now prooves my point but, it's all good.

I know I wouldn't be that much interested in a new Watchmen comic and that's ok too. Maybe if Alan Moore wrote it again I coukld consider but still, it wouldn't be as good anyway.

Inferno 8/11/2010 11:03:18 AM

The only reason DC wants to do this is because their hardcovers and tradepaper backs have been selling really well.The HMV stores near my place  won't even distribute MArvel trades anymore. The last one I saw was Marvel zombies and that was a long time ago. The last trades I saw there were all green lantern, Jonah hex  No Way Back and a crap load of Batman. On diamond distiribution Marvel has the higher price average but DC trades still sell really well. That's why they keep releasing a crap load of mini-series now a days.

This would be a good marketing move but as for telling a good story...it's up in the air. Personally, i'm indifferent to it.

@urphatgod, The only weakness DC has right now is the lack of movies, thetrical ones at least because their animated movies have been far superior than Marvel's . In fact, while Marvel has stayed focused on attacking the movie medium, WB/DC has been buying many video game teams and companies to now having their own new studio right here in montreal. That means no more waiting for liscensing. And with the new MMO from Sony coming out late fall that means more cash in their pockets.  I think the first game in developement will be the suicide squad.

They also purchased Turbine which means they own LOTR:online and there will be a new Mortal Kombat game coming out soon which they own as well.

So don't worry. They don't need movies to make money.

 

 

Inferno 8/11/2010 11:07:04 AM

jedibanner, those super sales are only estimates and they don't count monthly home subscriptions, of which I am a part of and other stores like HMV. I don't think they count amazon either. Besides, if Marvel is so great then why did they sell the company to Disney?

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