Xbox's BIOSHOCK Hitting PS3??

Cool! Hey, they took our Grand Theft Auto. We should get something out of it.

All of the Grand Theft Auto games have been on both consoles, so nobody "took" anything, except the downloadable content which unfortunately you'll miss out on. Bioshock is a great game, so I'm glad some of my PS3 only buddies will get to play it though. This is why I maintain zero brand loyalty to hardware manufacturers. I buy whatever system has ground breaking games. Right now the 360 leads in that department which is why my wife and I each have one of those, and our PS3 is still collecting dust on the shelf awaiting a game that isn't a major disappointment. (Fingers crossed for Metal Gear 4 and Infamous). Sony needs some quality exclusives and they need them yesterday. Haze is lousy, Heavenly Sword is nothing groundbreaking, Uncharted:Drakes Fortune was fun while it lasted, but again it's a mishmash of other great games, and despite being great in it's own right it's just too damned short. So far Insomniac Games is the only thing keeping them afloat with Resistance and Ratchet and Clank. Sony needs a Mass Effect or Gears of War of it's own, and it needs to shut up about Killzone 2 until they're planning on actually releasing it. If it gets pushed back again I'm going to boycott it on principal. They announced the thing in 2005 and still no game. I really want something good and exclusive to play on my PS3. I've had it over a year and so far it's been pretty sparse. Resistance 2 is coming just in time to go head to head with Gears of War 2, so Insomniac has a hell of a battle on their hands again. It's kinda' hard to compete with Gears, but no doubt Resistance 2 will be a great game none the less.

That`s great for you buddy, but some of us lesser being can't afford more than one console. I`ve had the PS1 and PS2. I like Sony, and the look of the PS3, so I bought a PS3 and haven`t been disappointed with any of the games I have or the system itself.
For someone with no brand loyalty, you talk about the PS3 like its shit. My question is, why have 2 360s? Do you guys not live together? I`m not knocking you. Its just weird to me to have 2 of the same consoles in one house, but I guess if you have kids it makes sense.
And no, the Grand Theft Auto games have not always been for all consoles. At one point in time it was exclusive to the PlayStation.

scytheofluna has the ultimate wife, pony. They both get online with the Xboxes and play together. I haven’t been able to even look at my lady with anything but disappointment since finding this out.

I’ve kinda been holding out on making the choice between the two systems myself, secretly wanting the PS3 more, out of silly brand loyalty and a SOCOM addiction, but I think I’m real close to just getting an Xbox, having played both systems now. I think scytheofluna is pretty dead on with regards to amount of quality games for each system. PS3 has been out for a while and they really should have more to offer at this point. Their online situation is a mess compared to XBox, though it is a free situation. Although I am a SOCOM addict. Might hold out to see what the coming 120GB PS3 is priced at.

Bioshock’s a great game though. One more check for both columns, I guess.

Xbox is prolly the best console for an adult hands down, you get the best selection from Xbox. Scy is right there really hasn't been anything great on Sony. I think a lot of it is due to the fact that Sony had a lot of third party support with they're second system and now they pretty much lost all of it. Even though Sony has lost all that third party support, Microsoft had very little aswell. Where Microsoft kicks the crap out of Sony is in first party games like Halo 3, Crackdown, Mass Effect (although Bioware got bought by E.A.), and Too Human soon. Microsoft also has games like Gears which I'm sure they own the rights too even though Epic works on it, and they had Bioshock for what? prolly a year before Sony gets it's hands on it? The Downloadable Content on the Xbox Marketplace is extremely hard to compete against, Sony has tried to play catch up to Microsoft, but the whole "Live" thing has been up for so many years that they have it done now. The other advantage is that Microsoft launched they're console so much earlier that people only had one way to experience HD console gaming. Another problem with the PS3 is they tried so hard to sell this system with all this "stuff" that the casual gamer just wasn't interested in hence why people turned to the Xbox since it was a lot cheaper. You also have to play into the fact that they're very few games that are even designed for the PS3 since it is such a pain, most game developers (even ones at Valve) have said they won't do it, so most games are getting designed on the Xbox and just get ported to the PS3. Most games don't even get the full benefits from being played on a PS3.

Hey bud, I totally understand the budget issue,it definitely doesn't make you a lesser being. You are missing out on some good games, but at least Assassin's Creed and GTA are multiplatform. Last gen I wasn't flush enough for all three consoles, so Nintendo and Sony won out, Microsoft didn't have the third party support that time around so I missed out on the kick-ass Riddick game (which still isn't backwards compatible). This time Microsoft had the best game selection so I went with them first and got the other two company's machines later on. Really, the initial reason I wound up with 2 360s is because the first one bricked on me and I didn't feel like waiting to get it back from Microsoft to play GTA IV. But as Joey pointed out my wife is a pretty avid gamer too, so two 360s wound up being a blessing. No kids yet, but that's coming, and god knows, in this house they'll be trying to compete for game time too. (Fortunately I have a Dreamcast, PS2 and 'Cube from back in the day so they can start there).





Don't take my initial comment as a knock to you for only having one system, it took me a couple of years to save up for the PS3. You probably have a life as well. I'm married to a PHD student so I have nothin' but free time on my hands when I'm not at work. The target of my ire is Sony for suckering us all into dropping six or seven bills on a console and not having many of the triple A titles that such a price tag should provide access to. Microsoft snagged Gears, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Left 4 Dead, Crackdown, Too Human, all of which are capable of operating on Sony's architecture.





Two years from now Sony may have their act together, the price may drop a bit, and the selection of games may improve, Hell, they may even release Killzone 2 before the decade is out. Their machine is technically superior, they just haven't really released anything to demonstrate that fact yet. Maybe with Fumito Ueda's "Shadow of the Colussus" follow up. Maybe Capcom will finally realize what a gem Okami was and make a sequel to that. We can hope. For now the 360 just has a better selection.





And while GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas were initially exclusives that really only lasted for a little while, much like Splinter Cell's XBOX exclusivity. The only two GTA games that are now and forever PS exclusive are Liberty City Stories and Vice City stories, which started as PSP games and were later ported to PS2. The other games made it to XBOX eventually. In this day and age I can't believe any developer would still agree to release on one system only, the financial carrots dangled by Microsoft and Sony must be pretty huge. Nintendo is barely even trying to make games for people like me. "Mad World" is really the only thing I even have hopes for on the Wii front. It kinda' has a Sin City vibe.





Gears and Mass effect though owned respectively by Epic and Bioware are still going to be Microsoft Exclusives, and even though Bungie is free of Microsoft's chains I would not bet on seeing a Halo game on any other platform. It sucks, and believe me, I'd rather live in a world where the PS3 guys can play Gears too, but it just ain't likely.





Seriously, no brand loyalty, I just buy what the best games are on. I got a PSP and a DS that I barely touch just for God of War and Zelda respectively. I don't own a car, so I don't pay for gas or insurance, I walk to work, and my only other vice is DVDs so all of my extra cash goes to games. The price will eventually drop on both systems and you too can double up.

The PS3 is definitely harder to program for many because the paradigm it's designed around is parallel processing. That means most programmers have to start from scratch, both from the code standpoint and the way a game is designed. This means the PS3 is a little slow out of the gate and programmers are bitching, but that won't last long so don't count it out just yet. The technology decisions, although initially hard for programmers, are the right ones for the future of computer gaming in my humble opinion.

Right now I'm thrilled there are so many fantastic games out there that look absolutely great on a HD big screen. Currently I'm playing Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted and Iron Man on the PS3. Now I say about computer games what I used to say about women when I was single. So many ... and so little time!

Well said Popa, it's a short-term disappointment and a long term investment in what will probably wind up being a bright future, if developers can wrap their heads around it. Looking back at the PS2 lifespan it really wasn't until 2003's Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time that I felt I had a game that was truly showing what the PS2 could do, and that was a few years after I'd bought it. God of War, Shadow of the Colossus and Okami were all games that truly defined the PS2 experience and none of them were released in the first couple of years. 3 years from now we may have an entirely different balance of power once developers get comfortable with the PS3's architecture. For now though, I'm still waiting. Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted are great though. When you're done with those pick up Assassin's Creed and Resistance: Fall of Man if you haven't played those yet.

I'm more disappointed with the Wii at this point because it trails the other two systems in truly immersive gaming experiences. I hope they don't wait too many years to bring out a more powerful system that maintains the intuitive controls but that matches the big guns on graphics. I agree with Myamoto San that graphics are second to gameplay, but the Wii is barely more powerful than the Gamecube, and there's not really any good reason for not having both innovation and good graphics, and I personally would rather play something like Bioshock or Ratchet and Clank than Mario Galaxy, as good a game as it is (even if Mario looks better than 90% of the garbage being churned out for that system). Playing something like Oblivion with a Wiimote and Nunchuk would be insanely cool. At this point Sony and Microsoft will probably make their own versions and beat Nintendo to the punch. Anything would be better than the Six Axis. I think Insomniac and Naughty Dog are the only developers who've been able to salvage any good gameplay elements out of that useless gimmick.

Anyway, Bioshock will be great. I enjoyed it enough that I might pick it up again once it hits PS3, especially if there's any exclusive content. Sony really needs to start their own gamerscore/achievements mechanic. I was amazed at how compelling that feature is on LIVE. You really have an incentive to find every hidden item, and to finish games you might not have finished otherwise. I didn't think much of it at first but you really do wind up wanting to add to your collective gamerscore by getting as many achievements as possible on 360 games. A few Sony titles have done it on their own, but a uniform adoption of that would be a smart move on Sony's part.

I second what Popa said...There may be few titles for PS3 compared to X-Box but it will not be that long before PS3 has a shit load of titles that are great and some not so great and the library is growing as we speak all be it a slow process it is...I read somewhere that more than 40% of X-boxes have failed and have had to be sent back because of hardware issues so that is what has kept me from thinking about that console...If I had to choose one or the other it would be PS3 because of the b-ray and because it has consistantly been a good product over the many years, though I digress because I do not own either one of them and never will...I play a few computer games here and there one being GTA and Bioshock of lately but not into games hardcore like some people, I have to many things to do in my life so I will wait and get all the consoles when I retire...The End